Trades and UFA’s - Trade Deadline Edition

[andora]

Tanev would be a significant addition to our LTIR.

If a young and injury prone Timmins is unwanted here because of his shorter injury list, just take a look at old man Tanev's lengthy injury history.

You just have to watch this video:

IMHO, Tanev would still be a Vancouver Canuck if not for his massive injury history.

He would still be a canuck if they didnt have a class a moron running their team at the time

 

[rumman]

I know this is a pro league where results are everything, but isn't Brodie struggling in his personal life right now? Wouldn't TOR be a little too ruthless to punt him out of town? I'm not sure what the best solution is, but what kind of message is that? "A close family member passed away, and your wife is suffering from an illness? We'll trade you!"

You make a very good point, how sbout granting him a leave of absence?

 

[Ianturnedbull]

I know these "only the playoffs matter" posts everywhere, all the time, all season. Everyone gets it, it isn't an epiphany, sage revelation, it's the most obvious thing going. Let's just all agree, yes, of course dummy. And if you truly believe it, then show up in May, who would waste six months on nothingness?

"I've come to this board today to state what a waste of time talking about the regular season is!"

 

[Rare Jewel]

Unpopular opinion is that if there is a very good upgrade to be had, I am open to trading Liljegren.

Sanheim for example has been playing RD for the Flyers this year and doing pretty well.

He and Robertson are kind of in the same boat. It might sting a bit, but it could be worth it.

Also, in terms of what other teams would covet, he's probably up there.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Tanev would be a significant addition to our LTIR.

If a young and injury prone Timmins is unwanted here because of his shorter injury list, just take a look at old man Tanev's lengthy injury history.

You just have to watch this video:

IMHO, Tanev would still be a Vancouver Canuck if not for his massive injury history.

Tanev sacrifices his body all too much to stay healthy long term. He's immune to pain, however he can't play through many of his injuries.

While we're at it, why don't we double down on the Tanev injury phenomena and acquire his brother too.

As Tanev ages going forward, his body will break down a lot faster due to all the injuries he has sustained.

I would love to have a healthy Tanev on our Leafs blue line, however I'm not sure just how much he'd end up being missing in action residing on our Leafs LTIR.

JMHO.

The risk isn’t LTIR, the risk is he’s healthy enough to play but mangled enough that he makes mistakes, can’t project any strength on the boards/in front of the net, and is a second behind the play.

 

[arso40]

He and Robertson are kind of in the same boat. It might sting a bit, but it could be worth it.

Also, in terms of what other teams would covet, he's probably up there.

What boat is that and what sense does a trade for sanheim make?? I might be over reacting and I apologize but that’s not a good idea at all nor do I think Robertson and lily are in any kind of boat together if it’s not a boat for young players that are improving

 

[Rare Jewel]

What boat is that and what sense does a trade for sanheim make?? I might be over reacting and I apologize but that’s not a good idea at all nor do I think Robertson and lily are in any kind of boat together if it’s not a boat for young players that are improving

They are in the same boat in the sense that they could possibly be part of a bigger core but have yet to properly establish themselves, thus making them possible trade candidates that other teams would like.

 

[ULF_55]

Too bad Kuzmenko is 2 years, be interesting swap Bertuzzi for ...

If it doesn't work trade them back.

 

[LeafParade]

Too bad Kuzmenko is 2 years, be interesting swap Bertuzzi for ...

If it doesn't work trade them back.

Are the Canucks retaining 50% and also taking Reaves?

 

[arso40]

They are in the same boat in the sense that they could possibly be part of a bigger core but have yet to properly establish themselves, thus making them possible trade candidates that other teams would like.

Do you think lily’s not established on our team? There’s no way he’s not they’re not trading him of all players even if it’s for an upgrade it will be someone we don’t control or someone from the forward group

 

[Gary Nylund]

I know these "only the playoffs matter" posts everywhere, all the time, all season. Everyone gets it, it isn't an epiphany, sage revelation, it's the most obvious thing going. Let's just all agree, yes, of course dummy. And if you truly believe it, then show up in May, who would waste six months on nothingness?

If you're interested in the Leafs in the playoffs and wait until May to show up, most years you'd be too late.

When people say "only the playoffs matter", no need to be upset as I'm sure it's not meant to be taken literally, and no need to insult people by calling them "dummy". What they're really saying is that playoffs matter more than the regular season, and after so many years of regular season success followed by playoff failure, it's hard to get too excited about anything that happens during the regular season.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Do you think lily’s not established on our team? There’s no way he’s not they’re not trading him of all players even if it’s for an upgrade it will be someone we don’t control or someone from the forward group

He is, and he isn't. I'm waiting for him to take that next step where people consider him more akin to Knies in terms of importance. I'm hoping he does it because it'll save a lot of effort to find another D. He's getting paired with Rielly now, so we'll see.

But until he does, there is this awkward position of possibly moving him to get something else because other teams are going to want something good in return.

 

[ottawa]

How much cap space do you guys think you'll be working with assuming Nylander is tied up for 10m and Liljgren for 5m?

I might be too high on Lilly?

 

[Americanadian]

How much cap space do you guys think you'll be working with assuming Nylander is tied up for 10m and Liljgren for 5m?

I might be too high on Lilly?

Assuming Nylander at 9.5x8, Liljegren at 3.5x5, Domi returns at 3x3, all of Robertson, Gregor, Benoit <1M and they let Bert, Brodie walk they would have ~13M to fill 2LW and 1RD (Tanev). I also wouldn't be shocked if Minten is 4C and they move on from Kampf freeing up another 1.5M.

 

[Kurtz]

Do we shift our focus towards getting a goalie? Really don't want to pin our season on rookie Wall with his injuries.

 

[horner]

Do we shift our focus towards getting a goalie? Really don't want to pin our season on rookie Wall with his injuries.

Every goaltenders get injured.
Markstrom was out for awhile.
Vasi was injured for 15 games

There are no garentees

We need a dman we can't fix everything this yr .

Our team needs to tighten up defensively

To me we need three dman

Players that need to be replaced
Brodie Gio Timmins

Again these prospects are of limits
Knies Cowen Minten Grebyonkin

 

[arso40]

How much cap space do you guys think you'll be working with assuming Nylander is tied up for 10m and Liljgren for 5m?

I might be too high on Lilly?

Not at all we should be signing him 2 an 8 year deal too for sure

Assuming Nylander at 9.5x8, Liljegren at 3.5x5, Domi returns at 3x3, all of Robertson, Gregor, Benoit <1M and they let Bert, Brodie walk they would have ~13M to fill 2LW and 1RD (Tanev). I also wouldn't be shocked if Minten is 4C and they move on from Kampf freeing up another 1.5M.

You already make no sense with that assumption unfortunately we don’t know what he’s going to get but we know he won’t get that your better off working with a worst case scenerio so were not counting money that we won’t have

 

[arso40]

Every goaltenders get injured.
Markstrom was out for awhile.
Vasi was injured for 15 games

There are no garentees

We need a dman we can't fix everything this yr .

Our team needs to tighten up defensively

To me we need three dman

Players that need to be replaced
Brodie Gio Timmins

Again these prospects are of limits
Knies Cowen Minten Grebyonkin

throw niemela in there too

 

[TMLAM34]

Assuming Nylander at 9.5x8, Liljegren at 3.5x5, Domi returns at 3x3, all of Robertson, Gregor, Benoit <1M and they let Bert, Brodie walk they would have ~13M to fill 2LW and 1RD (Tanev). I also wouldn't be shocked if Minten is 4C and they move on from Kampf freeing up another 1.5M.

Minten replacing Kampf makes a ton of sense, especially cap wise.

 

[Americanadian]

You already make no sense with that assumption unfortunately we don’t know what he’s going to get but we know he won’t get that your better off working with a worst case scenerio two were not counting money that we won’t have

I assume this is all trying to say you think Nylander will get more than 9.5M? Look at his comparables.

 

[horner]

I assume this is all trying to say you think Nylander will get more than 9.5M? Look at his comparables.

10.5 mil * 8 yrs

 

[Americanadian]

10.5 mil * 8 yrs

I’m not a Treliving fan but I think even he’s smart enough not to sign that deal.

 

[TMLAM34]

I’d give Nylander 10x8.

 

[Skullz]

Do we run with Jones and Sammy until Woll comes back? I'd hate to throw away valuable assets, but we may need to bring in a better veteran than Jones.

Any targets? We should also dump Sammy for the cap space ASAP.

 

[Americanadian]

Cole Smith is now on a 5-game point streak since I mentioned him as an option. No longer a bargain bin option unfortunately. Still an interesting player they should look at in the off season.