I am also not sure if he moves the needle, but he happens to be a free wallet.
It would be completely different if we had to trade assets for him.
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It would be completely different if we had to trade assets for him.
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Question for you guys, do emergency loan players have to clear waivers?
Be nice to add Bear without waiving someone on Emergency recall.
ULF_55
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Josh Ho-Sang 53 NHL games.
At least Galchenyuck and Puljujarvi were NHLers.
Just never lived up to draft position.
I think Ho-Sang lived up to his reputation.
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Islanders are on a heater (7-1-2 last 10) and 3rd in the Metro (with a negative goal differential). That division is pretty poop so I'd be shocked if they were sellers by the deadline.
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Yeah I think we're all in agreement that the Leafs need to find a defenseman that can play tough quality minutes in a positive manner. Brodie is still a good defenseman and more than capable but he has definitely regressed compared to 2-3 years ago... more notably his puck ability is really bad lately.
Not many defenders available fit that bill. Tanev would help tremendously there. Sean Walker would help a lot as well. Not sure I've seen many other RHD available that would really upgrade our defense other than them.
Where are you getting this info and who are you giving up for them?
Not being snarky, genuinely interested to know.
Gregor-Czikas-Clutterbuck
I’m intrigued….
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Complete and unsubstantiated speculation on my part. I think the Islanders will ultimately fall out of wild card race, and Clutterbuck will be a UFA. Seems like a perfect Treliving guy. Cizikas would probably be a bit more expensive since he has term left, but he would be a great third line playoff centre for the Leafs.
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Id take Clutterbuck to cycle in with Reaves.
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3D (2D potential output)
4th line wing
Knies - Matthews - Nylander
Bertuzzi - Tavares - Marner
Domi - ____ - Jarnkrok(Or Robertson)
Gregor - Kampf - _____
Rielly - Brodie
McCabe - ____
Giordano - Liljgren
I wouldn’t mind Clutterbuck, Laughton and Peeke(still don’t know much about em though)
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3D (2D potential output)
4th line wing
Knies - Matthews - Nylander
Bertuzzi - Tavares - Marner
Domi - ____ - Jarnkrok(Or Robertson)
Gregor - Kampf - _____
Rielly - Brodie
McCabe - ____
Giordano - Liljgren
I wouldn’t mind Clutterbuck, Laughton and Peeke(still don’t know much about em though)
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5. To be sure, the Maple Leafs' top trade priority is defence help, particularly on the right side.
Reading between the lines of comments made by coach Sheldon Keefe and GM Brad Treliving this week, Toronto would also like to upgrade its centre depth.
Max Domi has filled in admirably as a third-line pivot, but his trust defensively is iffy. Sense is, the Leafs would prefer a pure pivot and keep Domi as a middle-six utility player.
Three rental names to keep in mind: Anaheim's Adam Henrique, Montreal's Sean Monahan and Seattle's Alexander Wennberg.
The Ducks and Kraken would a) need to declare themselves sellers and b) retain salary for a hypothetical trade to work.
6. Speaking of fake Seattle-Toronto swaps, I like the fit of Will Borgen with the Leafs more than, say, Philadelphia's undersized Sean Walker or left-shot Nick Seeler, although Seeler is super-cheap ($775,000).
Borgen is only 26, so his best shifts may lie ahead. He's a stay-at-home, six-foot-three, 204-pound right shot who blocks shots, lays hits, logs 17 minutes a night and starts 66 per cent of his shifts in the D-zone.
He does the not-so-fun stuff well.
Furthermore, Brad Treliving needs to think about 2024-25 as well, and Borgen (no-trade protection) is signed through that season at a friendly $2.7-million cap hit, after which he turns UFA.
Of course, Seattle would have value in hanging on to the asset as well.
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5. To be sure, the Maple Leafs' top trade priority is defence help, particularly on the right side.
Reading between the lines of comments made by coach Sheldon Keefe and GM Brad Treliving this week, Toronto would also like to upgrade its centre depth.
Max Domi has filled in admirably as a third-line pivot, but his trust defensively is iffy. Sense is, the Leafs would prefer a pure pivot and keep Domi as a middle-six utility player.
Three rental names to keep in mind: Anaheim's Adam Henrique, Montreal's Sean Monahan and Seattle's Alexander Wennberg.
The Ducks and Kraken would a) need to declare themselves sellers and b) retain salary for a hypothetical trade to work.
6. Speaking of fake Seattle-Toronto swaps, I like the fit of Will Borgen with the Leafs more than, say, Philadelphia's undersized Sean Walker or left-shot Nick Seeler, although Seeler is super-cheap ($775,000).
Borgen is only 26, so his best shifts may lie ahead. He's a stay-at-home, six-foot-three, 204-pound right shot who blocks shots, lays hits, logs 17 minutes a night and starts 66 per cent of his shifts in the D-zone.
He does the not-so-fun stuff well.
Furthermore, Brad Treliving needs to think about 2024-25 as well, and Borgen (no-trade protection) is signed through that season at a friendly $2.7-million cap hit, after which he turns UFA.
Of course, Seattle would have value in hanging on to the asset as well.
"Under sized Sean Walker" please. He's 5'11" and 200 lbs. He's a pretty stocky and sturdy defenseman. The issue isn't that they aren't a big team defensively, they just need good players. Get good players. Would we really turn down someone like say Cale Makar just because he isn't big? Like come on.
We have Benoit and Lagesson to come in and play simple low event minutes. We need someone that can play 21+ minutes a night against top competition, Borgen has never done that. Walker is doing that.
Per Dom's charts at the Athletic:
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Carrier is another, perhaps. Similar build to Walker, right-handed, possibly more offence."Under sized Sean Walker" please. He's 5'11" and 200 lbs. He's a pretty stocky and sturdy defenseman. The issue isn't that they aren't a big team defensively, they just need good players. Get good players.
We have Benoit and Lagesson to come in and play simple low event minutes. We need someone that can play 21+ minutes a night against top competition, Borgen has never done that.
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That's a good target. Not sure if Nashville will be sellers but they do have some interesting RHDs.
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Happy to see Benoit is an RFA this summer. What do we think his next contract looks like?
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Give him the Timmins extension. 2 or 3 years with a small bump to 1M.
Rare Jewel
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He's fresh in the mind cause they played last night, but with Schenn, Fabbro, and being a pending UFA he's gettable.
Tomasino is another whose value at a low point is another I'd target.
Wennberg 4.5 mil no it will cost extra to retainQuick Shifts: How a Hall of Famer saved Luke Schenn's career
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5. To be sure, the Maple Leafs' top trade priority is defence help, particularly on the right side.
Reading between the lines of comments made by coach Sheldon Keefe and GM Brad Treliving this week, Toronto would also like to upgrade its centre depth.
Max Domi has filled in admirably as a third-line pivot, but his trust defensively is iffy. Sense is, the Leafs would prefer a pure pivot and keep Domi as a middle-six utility player.
Three rental names to keep in mind: Anaheim's Adam Henrique, Montreal's Sean Monahan and Seattle's Alexander Wennberg.
The Ducks and Kraken would a) need to declare themselves sellers and b) retain salary for a hypothetical trade to work.
6. Speaking of fake Seattle-Toronto swaps, I like the fit of Will Borgen with the Leafs more than, say, Philadelphia's undersized Sean Walker or left-shot Nick Seeler, although Seeler is super-cheap ($775,000).
Borgen is only 26, so his best shifts may lie ahead. He's a stay-at-home, six-foot-three, 204-pound right shot who blocks shots, lays hits, logs 17 minutes a night and starts 66 per cent of his shifts in the D-zone.
He does the not-so-fun stuff well.
Furthermore, Brad Treliving needs to think about 2024-25 as well, and Borgen (no-trade protection) is signed through that season at a friendly $2.7-million cap hit, after which he turns UFA.
Of course, Seattle would have value in hanging on to the asset as well.
Monohan his last 10 gms 1pt
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Rare Jewel
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His QO should be enough. Maybe with an extra year?
Lagesson will be about 1Mish.
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Rare Jewel
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I waiver on him, but I think his contract duration is too long.
I'm more inclined to take a flyer on Jake Bean, who only has the rest of this year left, then hope for a Mattheson-esque turnaround.
They both are. Treliving isn't bad as long as the signings are under $1m.
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That’s a asset when your the GM of the Leafs……..I waiver on him, but I think his contract duration is too long.
I'm more inclined to take a flyer on Jake Bean, who only has the rest of this year left, then hope for a Mattheson-esque turnaround.
They both are. Treliving isn't bad as long as the signings are under $1m.
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We don't really need Bean though... we already have Timmins. 176 lb D man, isn't what we need at all. I mean, I can appreciate that maybe Peeke isn't your guy, but we need someone like a Peeke, and not a Bean.I waiver on him, but I think his contract duration is too long.
I'm more inclined to take a flyer on Jake Bean, who only has the rest of this year left, then hope for a Mattheson-esque turnaround.
They both are. Treliving isn't bad as long as the signings are under $1m.
Rare Jewel
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I don't know; if Rielly gets injured, there's a severe lack of offense from this D as well as someone to use on PP. Bean hasn't been an offensive monster, and he's not going to get ahead of Werenski or now Provorov for the PP, but he has one 25pt season and was very good in the A.
It would cost very little to get him and if he doesn't work, don't qualify him.
I would still like an RHD as well, I'm not too concerned about their weight though.
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