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LeafChief said:
I think Nedeljkovic was on waivers earlier in the year. Would have been a great grab (in hindsight, of course). He's looking pretty good now.
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They are looking for RD's who can help their NHL team right now. We don't really have those (besides Liljegren, which is just a straight 'no').

Seems like they may be a little bit more motivated to move one of the more expensive guys so they have the cap room to get a Montour, Miller, Savard, etc.
 
Kurtz said:
If you get Hall, you put him into your top 6 - where we currently have a gaping hole (if not 2 holes, if we're making our 3rd line a serious checking line lead by Hyman).
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They said the same thing about Kessel when he went to Pittsburgh.

Not always that simple.

Perhaps Hyman moves back into the top six and Hall plays with Engvall/Kerf and Mikheyev.
 
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ToneDog said:
No doubt most players are getting Buffalo'd there but there is a difference between Skinner and Hall. Skinner hit the jackpot and has disappeared while Hall is looking for his jackpot and should be highly motivated.
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I haven't watched Buffalo at all this year, but Hall's advanced stats look good this year. Corsi at 54%, Fenwick at 55%. (are these 2 advanced stats still in vogue, or am I too basic?) Surprisingly good, given his team record. I don't think he's tanking it, I think it's just a lack of talent on that team that's the problem.
 
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Cor said:
They said the same thing about Kessel when he went to Pittsburgh.

Not always that simple.

Perhaps Hyman moves back into the top six and Hall plays with Engvall/Kerf and Mikheyev.
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Yeah, maybe. I think the issue there was that Sid and Geno liked to cycle, whereas Phil was most effective off the rush. And all 3 guys were best with the puck on their stick.
 
Kurtz said:
I haven't watched Buffalo at all this year, but Hall's advanced stats look good this year. Corsi at 54%, Fenwick at 55%. (are these 2 advanced stats still in vogue, or am I too basic?) Surprisingly good, given his team record. I don't think he's tanking it, I think it's just a lack of talent on that team that's the problem.
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That is what I would expect from him/a pending UFA. He'll have one more kick at the can to "show" he is worth that long term contract, especially with a flat cap for the next few years.
 
Cor said:
They said the same thing about Kessel when he went to Pittsburgh.

Not always that simple.

Perhaps Hyman moves back into the top six and Hall plays with Engvall/Kerf and Mikheyev.
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Agreed, Hall has now failed to gel with both Mcdavid and Eichel, who prop up damn near everyone they've ever played with. I'd rather have our own version of the HBK line where Hall could be the puck-dominant forward and feast on the soft matchups.
 
Korg said:
Agreed, Hall has now failed to gel with both Mcdavid and Eichel, who prop up damn near everyone they've ever played with. I'd rather have our own version of the HBK line where Hall could be the puck-dominant forward and feast on the soft matchups.
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I think part of that probably has to do with the fact that Hall himself isn't a shooter and tends to distribute the puck more and make plays for his linemates. Neither McDavid nor Eichel are finishers and prefer to be playmakers first. I think if Hall had an opportunity to feed the puck to the Matthews/ JTs of the NHL, he'd probably be a ton more successful. With that said, unless we are getting him at a bargain bin price, I don't want Hall.
 
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Wouldn't have minded Staal at that price but he's hardly someone to lose sleep over losing out on considering the roster already has Spezza and Thornton (who is looking more like he'll get third and fourth line duties going forward).

The only bad thing is that Staal, in his career, has killed the Leafs so he'll be a PITA to play against in that respect.
 
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ToneDog said:
That is what I would expect from him/a pending UFA. He'll have one more kick at the can to "show" he is worth that long term contract, especially with a flat cap for the next few years.
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If he was traded to Toronto he'd also be well aware (likely from his agent) that his time here will likely determine his contract in the off-season.

That looks like to me a guy who could play desperate, which is appealing
 
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Korg said:
Agreed, Hall has now failed to gel with both Mcdavid and Eichel, who prop up damn near everyone they've ever played with. I'd rather have our own version of the HBK line where Hall could be the puck-dominant forward and feast on the soft matchups.
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Eichel and Hall only played like 160 minutes together at 5v5, but they were dominant.

Eichel with Hall: 62.3 cf% | 64.3 xGF% | 65.5 HDCF%
Eichel without Hall: 47.3 cf% | 48.1 xGF% | 46.3 HDCF%
 
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Faltorvo said:
Ya and put ES in a position to succeed , like they did with Spezz and good things happen

put ES on this roster with a tiny 1.6m cap hit?? yessss please

thats half of what we pay kerfoot who is pretty useless
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He's a name. Not a player anymore. Leafs have better - Spezza for one.
 
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Faltorvo said:
Spez could fill at 3c and Joe at 4th C if needed

but we have F all to fill 2C
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So go around the league and find a #3C who has more points than Spezza. Every team is in the same situation should one of their top-2C's go down....that should be obvious....but alas....

These type of posts are not a good look.
 
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kb said:
So go around the league and find a #3C who has more points than Spezza. Every team is in the same situation should one of their top-2C's go down....that should be obvious....but alas....

These type of posts are not a good look.
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I think it's only Gourde in Tampa, as I've said previously in this thread.

People discount that Nylander could play C as well. Not ideal, but he's taken plenty of faceoffs, just not this year.
 
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Rangers
Buchnevich(50 percent retained)
Lemieux
Georgiev

Toronto
Kerfoot
1st round pick
Amirov
Lilly

Andersen traded to a team looking for a goalie for the cap space

Buchnevich Matthews Marner
Hyman Tavares Nylander
Mik Engvall Lemieux
Thornton Spezza Simmonds
 
Fogelhund said:
I think it's only Gourde in Tampa, as I've said previously in this thread.

People discount that Nylander could play C as well. Not ideal, but he's taken plenty of faceoffs, just not this year.
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Yessir. That was my point exactly. Whining about not having 3 #1c's is ridiculous.
 
Leaffan1991 said:
Rangers
Buchnevich(50 percent retained)
Lemieux
Georgiev

Toronto
Kerfoot
1st round pick
Amirov
Lilly

Andersen traded to a team looking for a goalie for the cap space

Buchnevich Matthews Marner
Hyman Tavares Nylander
Mik Engvall Lemieux
Thornton Spezza Simmonds
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That's quite the price, that I'm not comfortable with moving. Especially given we'd either have to trade Buchnevich before the expansion draft, or potentially lose another D, having already traded away the one we developed. No chance we could afford to resign Buchnevich, so we would get some assets back, though I wonder what we'd get, basically being forced to sell him.
 
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Leaffan1991 said:
Rangers
Buchnevich(50 percent retained)
Lemieux
Georgiev

Toronto
Kerfoot
1st round pick
Amirov
Lilly

Andersen traded to a team looking for a goalie for the cap space

Buchnevich Matthews Marner
Hyman Tavares Nylander
Mik Engvall Lemieux
Thornton Spezza Simmonds
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I'd rather drop Buch, Kerfoot and one of the prospects from the deal and just address the two weaknesses of grit and goaltending. We'd have to qualify Buch at 3 AAV, plus he's arbitration eligible, where he'd probably get 5-6 million.
 
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