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Trades and Free Agency Thread - Push all the chips in?

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OVO16 said:
Screams Chicago
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Oddly enough Chicago is one of the teams that I would think would be interested in Andersen if they wanted to continue their push for a playoff spot to back up Lankinen.

Something like:

Andersen to Chicago

Ullmark to Toronto

Hall @ 50% from Buffalo with another 50% retained through Chicago to Toronto

Assets to Buffalo. Sweetener to Chicago.

$5M cap hit out, $4.6M cap hit in. Would allow us to add another piece potentially as well.
 
LeafsOHLRangers98 said:
Oddly enough Chicago is one of the teams that I would think would be interested in Andersen if they wanted to continue their push for a playoff spot to back up Lankinen.

Something like:

Andersen to Chicago

Ullmark to Toronto

Hall @ 50% from Buffalo with another 50% retained through Chicago to Toronto

Assets to Buffalo. Sweetener to Chicago.

$5M cap hit out, $4.6M cap hit in. Would allow us to add another piece potentially as well.
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I like Freddy but do agree his time in Toronto is over. I just don’t see Dubas making that kind of move during the season. Not to mention the negative effect moving someone like Freddy could have in the locker room. I think we just roll with Campbell and Freddy for the remainder of the year but Keefe plays the hot hand. Freddy isn’t the undisputed number 1 goalie in Toronto anymore.
 
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I honestly don’t think the price for Hall is going to be anything crazy. He has a full no movement clause so he decides where he wants to go and it sure sounds like he wants to play for Toronto.

If we can get Chicago to retain another 50% of his salary we could make it work without trading Kerfoot.
 
If Arizona is out of it they don't have a first and with a new gm id think they'd want to start adding prospects through the draft

I've always liked hjalmersson and demers . Fischer would be a nice heavy forward to add.....and they have rantaa or kuemper so pieces to a deal big or small should be there
 
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LeafsOHLRangers98 said:
Oddly enough Chicago is one of the teams that I would think would be interested in Andersen if they wanted to continue their push for a playoff spot to back up Lankinen.

Something like:

Andersen to Chicago

Ullmark to Toronto

Hall @ 50% from Buffalo with another 50% retained through Chicago to Toronto

Assets to Buffalo. Sweetener to Chicago.

$5M cap hit out, $4.6M cap hit in. Would allow us to add another piece potentially as well.
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At this point, Buffalo would need Andersen. They don't have any healthy tenders, so might end up having to sign a UFA or something as is.
 
Fogelhund said:
At this point, Buffalo would need Andersen. They don't have any healthy tenders, so might end up having to sign a UFA or something as is.
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Freddy has a modified no trade clause, why would a pending UFA goaltender who’s already on a down year on a potential Stanley Cup winning team waive to join a disaster of a team like Buffalo who’s in last place and currently lost 14 games in a row... Probably not the smartest move a pending UFA goaltender would make... lol
 
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I would like us to get Hall and Ullmark. We can pickup Mccabe's LTIR salary to sweeten the deal for the Sabres.

Ullmark
Andersen
Campbell is a good goalie trio

Hall, Tavares, Nylander is an awesome second line.
 
TMLAM34 said:
Freddy has a modified no trade clause, why would a pending UFA goaltender who’s already on a down year on a potential Stanley Cup winning team waive to join a disaster of a team like Buffalo who’s in last place and currently lost 14 games in a row... Probably not the smartest move a pending UFA goaltender would make... lol
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But Chicago is a better place to accept a trade to? I fail to see the logic in that.

His value is already known around the league, a few games at the end of one season isn't going to change that.
 
Fogelhund said:
But Chicago is a better place to accept a trade to? I fail to see the logic in that.

His value is already known around the league, a few games at the end of one season isn't going to change that.
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Did I ever say we should trade Andersen, especially to Chicago? I don’t think so. I believe he stays put and Keefe rides the hot hand. Moving Freddy during the season is just too big of a move to make and who knows how it can alter the chemistry in the locker room on a year we’re suppose to be all in.

I was the first one on here to suggest signing Ullmark in the off-season and running a 1A-1B tandem with Campbell next year. That’s still my goal unless we can trade for Merzlikins considering he’s expansion draft exempt. That’s still my preference.

And also regardless, yes Chicago is a lot more desirable than Buffalo. A team currently sitting in a playoff spot fighting with Columbus opposed to Buffalo that’s currently on a 14 game loosing streak and a laughing stock of the league. If you fail to see the logic there, I don’t know what to tell you.

IF Freddy were moved, it’ll be to a team that’s in the playoffs or in the playoff hunt. This management team owes him more than just shipping him to Buffalo and hurting his chances even more at a decent contract this off-season. But like I said, I just don’t see it happening during the season. It’s more likely he walks as a UFA.
 
Cor said:
God that Glendening thread on the main board is whacky stuff. People thinking we should give up a 2nd or a 3rd + Hallander for him.
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If we actually get Ekholm then I wouldn’t mind adding someone small like Glendening up front. But at the same time I’d just prefer Eric Staal probably at that point considering both would/should cost pretty minimal. No chance I’d move Hallander for Glendening.
 
ULF_55 said:
I think this season could be a much bigger gamble, not knowing how good the team is against other top teams, and not having any games in Toronto.

Could be just throwing assets away for a mirage in the North.
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Ah, the old tired we are in first, so the division must be crap argument....

Maybe it's all the other divisions that are crap.....after all, look at Florida, the Islanders, etc....
 
You want to make cap space for Hall? Here you go.

To Dallas: Andersen, Dermott, 2nd

TO Leafs: Ben Bishop, Jamie Oleksiak (50% retained)

Bishop is expected to be ready come playoff time. Dallas currently has Khudobin and Oettinger, who could be sent down. So the Leafs LTIR Bishop and they free up his $4.9 million cap hit space for Taylor Hall.

Kerfoot, 1st, +

For

Taylor Hall.

It all works, and we "Kucherov" Bishop....
 
Luke Glendening is B A D at even strength.

But he can help our penalty kill by winning faceoffs?

Of penalty kill forwards with 25+ SH TOI, Luke Glendening would be the worst on the team in terms of SH GA/60 and SH xGA/60. Glendening also has a high on ice sh sv% than guys like Hyman, Marner, Kerfoot etc.

Glendening has won 54 faceoffs while shorthanded, and lost 54. Jason Spezza? Won 46, and lost 36.
 
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Do not want hall or Glendening think the only thing we need is another banger that can play good defense make us harder to play against
 
kb said:
Ah, the old tired we are in first, so the division must be crap argument....

Maybe it's all the other divisions that are crap.....after all, look at Florida, the Islanders, etc....
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You are right, Leafs were 3 points up on the Panthers and 1 point up on Islanders last year.

Mind you, Leafs played 2 more games than the Islanders and 1 more game than the Panthers.

None of those teams were top 10 teams last year.

Now if the Leafs could get a goalie who is better than the guy at the other end ...
 
Cor said:
Luke Glendening is B A D at even strength.

But he can help our penalty kill by winning faceoffs?

Of penalty kill forwards with 25+ SH TOI, Luke Glendening would be the worst on the team in terms of SH GA/60 and SH xGA/60. Glendening also has a high on ice sh sv% than guys like Hyman, Marner, Kerfoot etc.

Glendening has won 54 faceoffs while shorthanded, and lost 54. Jason Spezza? Won 46, and lost 36.
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Glendening sucks.
 
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Luke Glendening is B A D at even strength.
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There is no viable analytics data do judge Glendening's ability to be a 4C on the Leafs. The Wings use him as a shutdown 3C infront of lacklustre defense with lacklustre wingers. Literally the entire unit playing above it's head.
 
Though I have no evidence to prove it does, does a one stop shopping spree help reduce the price of doing business and perhaps increase the retention? In descending order of desire (and cost):

Ekholm and Forsberg
Ekholm and Granlund
Savard and Jenner
Savard and Foligno
Hall and Staal
Rakell and Hakanpaa
Palmieri and Kulikov
Hjalmarsson and Brassard
 
I'd wager no later than the end of this weekend coming up that you'd think Dubas would be making something happen.

Obviously a few teams still think they're in the hunt, and a few are reluctant to trade probably because they aren't liking the offers so far and hope they'll drive them up by waiting it out.

Its a unique year though with the 2 week quarantine. American teams are probably using that as leverage too.
 
meefer said:
Though I have no evidence to prove it does, does a one stop shopping spree help reduce the price of doing business and perhaps increase the retention? In descending order of desire (and cost):

Ekholm and Forsberg
Ekholm and Granlund
Savard and Jenner
Savard and Foligno
Hall and Staal
Rakell and Hakanpaa
Palmieri and Kulikov
Hjalmarsson and Brassard
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Perhaps, though there could also be additional factors at play in determining that. For example, Ekholm and Forsberg each have a full season left on their contracts. Retaining on either or both also affects next season's cap for Nashville. Conversely, Hall and Staal are pending UFAs. Retaining on either or both of those deals would have a lesser effect on Buffalo's cap situation. The Buffalo duo seems more likely to be attainable/available. Contract clauses such as NMCs and NTCs could be another factor that complicates matters as well if the intention is to deal with one team.
 
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