Deliberately watched the FLA/NSH game today, just to get a better look at Ekholm. I am hardly a seasoned scout, but he looks eerily similar to Muzzin, with maybe a little (and I mean little) extra quickness. Are my eyes telling me the truth?
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that sounds about right ,,muzz does bring a bit more grit
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We need a goalie.
Top 6 winger is more of a nice thing to have, but it is not a necessity, especially if Galchenyuk consistently brings what he did last night.
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I think we need a change in net but i dont think we need a star goalie. This team has the potential to be very strong to the point where we just need an average goalie. Right now Andy isnt even playing average by NHL standards.
IMO where we make up some cap space is in the crease. Im not a fan of letting Hyman or Rielly go. Let Andy go and try and keep ELCs like Sandin, Robertson, Amirov to have cheap quality players. We can make it work with a cheaper goalie and trying to run a tandem style while riding the hot goalie.
I wasn't keen on adding Ekholm to the D but if his extension is going to be cheaper than Muzzin because we have a flat cap for 4 years, I can see dealing for him and then exposing Muzzin during the expansion draft.
I expect Ekholm will age better because of his skating. Muzzin also does not get that contract post-covid.
I expect Ekholm will age better because of his skating. Muzzin also does not get that contract post-covid.
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I didn't say we needed a star goalie. We just a goalie who, like you said, can be average.
That is more important than any top 6 winger we get right now.
nope
i'll take a bonafide top 4 D man for the POs over a bloody winger and it's not even close
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to be fair. They specifically structured his contract to allow it. So it’s possible no matter how unlikely
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Ekholm will be bottom pair on our team though he wont play the right side. Making that 2nd line more dominant should be more of a priority then upgrading Dermott. Travis is great there, we dont need a better 3rd pair LD.
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only player on the Leaf who can consistently go into the corners and come out with the puck, they can't afford to lose him and keep Mr. Inconsistent (88) in the line up at a greater cap hit.
There is a flat cap for 4 years, so you cannot depend on the cap going up each year to sign your own players to extensions like before.
What do you think the Leafs are going to do 2 years from now? They have to sign Hyman, this summer, than Reilly/Soup are up the next year etc.
There will have to be cap casualties. You can choose your poison but some of the bigger contracts on the roster will have to be moved at some point.
Most teams made moves (bridge contracts etc.) that only help temporarily. They will not be able to do that for 4 years without creating a cap problem for themselves.
I can assure you if Andersen was traded for a 2nd and then we turned around and gave up a 1st + 2nd + prospect for Kuemper, that people would have lost their shit (likely rightfully so).
Kuemper also hasn’t been as great this year and battled injuries.
I remember most being down for a Andersen for Kuemper swap, but it seems Arizona wouldn’t have been open to that, as they wanted futures.
None of us know the exact discussions. Perhaps there was a deal that Dubas should’ve done. Perhaps there was nothing. Who really knows
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It's certainly a difficult decision.
The problem is at present Muzzin is arguably the teams best defensive D man. Hard to lose that type of player when the team is trying to win
i don't think you get it , it's about D depth in the POs
Ekholm makes our 3rd pair into a solid 2nd pair Ekholm/Bogo
if one of our top 4 gets hurt,,ekholm easily moves up and fills and yes Ekholm has spent time on the right side and from the reports,,he looked just fine there
thats not a line i can say for Derm/bogo/lilly/sandin
You can look at my post history,,i have been a HUGE Hyman guy since day 1
but no way in hell i pay him 5.75m per
I think if we make a move for a goalie it happens between tonight and Thursday. Leafs and Marlies both only play one game until the 26th and at that point we could add Vehvilainen to the taxi squad and let Woll stay with the Marlies full time.
Someone will, so if there is no hometown discount he won't be a Leaf next season. That Is trouble if you ask me.
we are losing cap hit when Fred and his 5m walks away ,,
we are losing cap hit when one of derm/holl/eng/kerf gets picked by seattle that's either 875k/2m/1.25m/3.5m
and only Hyman as a must sign ,,,the year after is Riel/Miky and kessels 1.2m drops that year to start towards that and then we look at Kerfs 3.5m to go away ,,,we are in a ok cap spot
Well,,if you think under 5.75m per is a discount ,that's fine
i say anything under 4.5m is a discount
Absolutely need to upgrade on Andersen. Our losses are mostly because of goaltending. In our 12 losses we only have 3 games where the goaltender has posted above a .900 SV%.
Winnipeg had at least a .900 SV% in 8 of their 12 losses. Hellebuyck has 7 of those. If we had that kind of goaltending in our bad games we probably only have two or three losses.
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