Trades and Free Agency - 2022-23 Season Edition

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Main board has a BS, Tyler Myers deal to Toronto.

If true, I find it interesting that Dubas is going for low cost options considering it may be his last year here. Maybe he doesn't have power to make a trade without approval.

Dubas would be scooped up in an instant.
 
Main board has a BS, Tyler Myers deal to Toronto.

If true, I find it interesting that Dubas is going for low cost options considering it may be his last year here. Maybe he doesn't have power to make a trade without approval.

Dubas would be scooped up in an instant.

50% retention and a kicker to take Myers wouldn’t be awful. He’d replace Holl as a #5/6 guy who has to play higher if there are injuries. Provides the same D as Holl, but more physical. Wouldn’t be the worst idea to then flip Holl to capitalize on a pending UFAs value but also replacing him only adding 1 mill.
 
hold your butts, ladies, I've got it all figured out. 10 team trade:

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Kane + Gavrikov changes how every team comes at us. The price will be high though.

why are these board so bullish on rentals all of a sudden . 2 years ago it was all about getting players with term and now its the opposite. Unless these players sign exptensions i wouldnt do it ,,, period.
We cant be throwing away first and second rounders like its gming nhl 2023 on playstation.
 
50% retention and a kicker to take Myers wouldn’t be awful. He’d replace Holl as a #5/6 guy who has to play higher if there are injuries. Provides the same D as Holl, but more physical. Wouldn’t be the worst idea to then flip Holl to capitalize on a pending UFAs value but also replacing him only adding 1 mill.
Myers is not physical

He throws a big hit every 20 games.. he cant catch up to people to be physical
 
Dermott sandin liljegren

If one of three pans out that is a solid success rate nevermind all 3 making the league
 
Tyler Myers at 4M per (2M Retained) for Mikko Kokkonen + Ottawa's 3rd rd. pick in 2023?

Rielly - Liljegren
Brodie - Myers
Giordano - Sandin/Holl

Definitely not the sexy choice. But, looking at defensive options would Myers not be a greater addition or comparable addition to the likes of Gavrikov, Zub, Murphy? He is a 6'8 minute muncher who can make physical contact and play in defensive situations. He is also rather inexpensive to add.

I kind of see it like the Murray move. It is heavy boom-bust. Could be a nightmare or he could be the missing piece. Bit of a gamble.
 
I wouldn’t be completely against a retained Myers especially if the cost is pretty minimal.
 
The 2 year term may also fit the Leafs well. Similar to Murray's deal. If they land Gavrikov or Zub they immediately have to enter negotiations for a 5 year contract. If they trade for Murphy they have to commit 4 years at over 4M per to him. With a retained Myers you get someone you don't have to worry about replacing right away and you get someone you don't have to worry about committing long term space too.
 
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If deployed right Myers can do a specific job well, I'm just not sure who you play him with. Giordano? If Muzzin was healthy that would probably be the best combo.
 
Toews
Graves
Marino
Erhoff
Leddy
Boychuk
Schmidt
Muzzin
Martinez

There's plenty of examples over the past many years, of top 4 Dmen being acquirable - I know the plan is to let the blueline breathe and see what they can get out of Liljegren & Sandin, but it really feels like they are going to need help on that blueline.
 
why are these board so bullish on rentals all of a sudden . 2 years ago it was all about getting players with term and now its the opposite. Unless these players sign exptensions i wouldnt do it ,,, period.
We cant be throwing away first and second rounders like its gming nhl 2023 on playstation.
I'm assuming both players extend with us. Kane would be hard to fit but it's doable if Muzzin is done.
 
How many playoffs have we complained about we can't score when it matters? What we need is a top 6 play driving LW; lets not pray that Knies comes and is the saviour or focus on marginal D upgrades. We need more scoring more than anything.

I'm definitely coming around to this. I think the D is good enough to run by committee+ good systems (which the Leafs have).

Adding another scoring forward into the top 9 (especially a legit 3C) would have the biggest impact
 
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Dermott sandin liljegren

If one of three pans out that is a solid success rate nevermind all 3 making the league
Anytime you can churn out 1 top 4 defenseman out of a 17th, 28th and 35th overall pick you have to take it.

Not actually though. I’ll take Aho and Thomas over Lily/Dermott.

why are these board so bullish on rentals all of a sudden . 2 years ago it was all about getting players with term and now its the opposite. Unless these players sign exptensions i wouldnt do it ,,, period.
We cant be throwing away first and second rounders like its gming nhl 2023 on playstation.
Thank you. The Leafs throw away assets every year in trades and letting free agents walk. Look at what Tampa targeted with their top assets: Coleman/Hagel/Goodrow all had term.
 
50% retention and a kicker to take Myers wouldn’t be awful. He’d replace Holl as a #5/6 guy who has to play higher if there are injuries. Provides the same D as Holl, but more physical. Wouldn’t be the worst idea to then flip Holl to capitalize on a pending UFAs value but also replacing him only adding 1 mill.

When you're done pretending like Myers is better than Holl, read this:
he isn't
 
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alright enough with the dmen suggestions. defense is not this teams problem . we need to see goal scoring suggestions. no one can shoot on this team except the top 4 guys. we need a 3C that can generate offense or a winger to play in the top 6.

at this point get someone like strome from washington or zucker from pittsburgh and call it a day.\

no point if getting a guy like kane, tarasenko or horvat unless they resign
 
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Where is this Erik Karlsson trade rumour heading? Could the Leafs get San Jose to take Muzzin’s contract back, retain salary, and build a deal around top prospect Matthew Knies?

Not sure if that is the right kind of defenseman we need. We need the ones who can play defense. We pay $50 million for the bros to put up points. We need actual hockey players to make up for the others short comings 😞
 
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