Trades and Free Agency - 2022-23 Season Edition
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Stephen
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Yeah, it feels like more of a sim forward season and just retool the franchise significantly once the dust settles.
Americanadian
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Revisiting Robertson for Stankoven.
Move on from Robertson at his near peak value and grab a near identical player 2 years younger. Stankoven is immediately the best right shot forward in the system (non-NHL). Clears up a contract spot too with Stankoven’s contract sliding. It would also be fun to see Stankoven and Minten play together for a year in junior.
Move on from Robertson at his near peak value and grab a near identical player 2 years younger. Stankoven is immediately the best right shot forward in the system (non-NHL). Clears up a contract spot too with Stankoven’s contract sliding. It would also be fun to see Stankoven and Minten play together for a year in junior.
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ToneDog
56 years and counting. #FireTheShanaClan!
Kutcherov. They should Kutcherov Muzzin this year and hope he is healthy come payoffs.
Still pisses me off to this day. A concussion on a player with concussion history is essentially a free ticket to keep them on the LTIR as long as you like. But for some bizarre reason Dubas never took advantage of it.
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ULF_55
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You know it would be interesting to see all the key players healthy.
Making the Cap work is another story.
100%. At this point it's throwing good money after bad.
A pinch of leadership from ROR and a touch of physicality from Murphy isn't going to do it.
We're being forced through another redo but with the information we have spending assets is just a bad gamble.
Some moves will be necessary but stay away from big names and don't move big assets.
You honest to god think Muzzin would make a fuss over a few games if it meant the Leafs having a better chance at the cup?
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Stephen
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It just comes back to how ruthless the organization is to get better. They seem to have a tiered approach where the core are treated specially, shown loyalty they might not deserve to avoid these difficult decisions, and the bottom 2/3 of the roster is just interchangeable mercenaries.
Jarnkrok and Engvall for 4.35 million are not good enough 3rd liners. Malgin, Aston-Reese and the 750 k guys are good value 4th liners though. I'd rather the 4.35 million go to a good top 6 winger. Then Knies, Holmberg, Anderson or whoever comes in and takes the last winger spot. So you could have something like a Marchment type of winger for 4+ million and Knies/Anderson as top 9 wingers for the playoffs instead of Jarnkrok and Engvall.
This how I'd like to see the team.
Bunting - Matthews - Marner
----------- Tavares - ---------
Robertson - Kerfoot - Nylander
Aston-Reese- Kampf - Malgin
This how I'd like to see the team.
Bunting - Matthews - Marner
----------- Tavares - ---------
Robertson - Kerfoot - Nylander
Aston-Reese- Kampf - Malgin
Yep. Some people seem to have gotten the idea that you can force healthy, cleared players that want to play to stay on LTIR or to retire whenever it suits you. That's not how it works. Not to mention that it's usually not a great idea to throw an important player from the LTIR straight to playoff games, so then are we sitting/delaying Muzzin and losing/diminishing the excellent performance he put up in that series?
It's funny that people are cherry picking Lindholm out now that he's started the first handful of games of an expensive 8 year contract on an unsustainable hot streak. If we had traded a 1st, 2nd, 2nd, and a former 1st for a declining rental player that ended up playing less than 4 playoff games at less than 100% and providing 0 points, this place would have lost it. Not to mention that with Rielly, Muzzin, and Sandin, it really would have made no sense to sign another left-shot defenseman to an expensive, long-term extension.
Also I'm not sure why people are acting like we didn't do anything or use LTIR. We acquired Giordano. We would have been over the cap post-deadline if our whole team was healthy.
Griffin76
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Engvall+ for Kapanen with retention down to even the price of the contracts? Maybe that's all Kapanen wants. He liked it here. He's friends with Nylander. Maybe make the third line something like
xxx Nylander Kapanen
xxx Nylander Kapanen
I’d do it. Rather have Kapanen than Engvall.
Griffin76
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How do you know he can't be bothered? Is it possible that he's just struggling and the coach wants someone in there who isn't right now so they can right that ship??
How many goals does he have in his last 30 games?
A dozen or so last year i think..
At the end of the day why pay more money for him - what is the point
Griffin76
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Hence maybe he's struggling. And my question was how do you know he can't be bothered?
And my proposal had retention to even out the salaries.
I’d only do it if Kapanen came with 50% retention. Drops him down to 1.6 million.
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I’m not sure if i would want Kappy back at the same price as Engvall. Maybe that gives him a kick in the ass and he plays like he’s younger self with us.
Is engvall signed to a one year deal?
Is engvall signed to a one year deal?
Youre right.. i missed that
I missed the retention, so pittsburgh pays basically same money for the same but worse player
My answer is i dont know, of course not. My point is he has not been able to seize a long term opportunity as an impact player .. moves up and down the lineup .. we have those.. no impact here
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