Trades and Free Agency - 2022-23 Season Edition

[Americanadian]

Horvat isn't going to play as a #3C, or even #2C... it's just not going to happen. If you want him as a rental, fair enough, but don't be under any pretenses that he'll do anything but go to UFA, and maximize his value.

I’ll wager he makes less than 8M and isn’t the clear cut 1C wherever he lands.

 

[TMLAM34]

I wonder if we can flip Kerfoot to Vancouver in a deal for Garland? I can see Garland being a 25 goal scorer easily on this team.

 

[andora]

I wonder if we can flip Kerfoot to Vancouver in a deal for Garland? I can see Garland being a 25 goal scorer easily on this team.

what would your idea be of what is added to kerfoot?

 

[Fogelhund]

It seems like their is no middle of the lineup guys anymore.

You have your stars and your role players, but the days of the second/third line players are gone. The tweener offensive guys are being weeded out of NHL lineups.

They are are plenty of C's out there, putting up 35-45 points, kind of where you'd hope your 3C would be production wise. Finding one, who does all the things one might hope for, on a team who might be a seller is pretty difficult though.

Adam Henrique fits portions of the bill, but at $5.825 million, his cap hit hurts. Good speed, more of scorer than setup guy, not big, nor physical, good in the dot, versatile...

RoR -> His skating has gone downhill, and who knows what he wants on his next contract... Expensive... if his skating was better.....

Nico Sturm -> He's never really put up the points you'd want from a 3C, though he's doing better this year, in a very small sample set, with unsustainable shooting... Cheap though... Probably more of a 4C, but the rest of his tools are interesting, size, skating, defensively strong... you'd want to aim higher.

You know... Jonathon Toews would be an interesting pickup, albeit incredibly expensive cap wise... No real physicality anymore, but he'd be a very good 3C going forward, provide leadership, has always been good defensively, and should provide 35-45 points easily enough. The challenge being, what would he sign for next? Toews retained and Murphy... especially if Toews would extend in the $3-4 mil range??

 

[Duke16]

I had it in my head that ROR was signed longer than he is and was questioning how we are getting STL to retain, but... this idea isn't even that farfetched.

With the exact current roster construction, we're ideally just looking at Engvall, a couple of our better but not best prospects, and some okay picks. If his down year continues and STL struggles, I don't see why that trade should be premium value

 

[arso40]

what would your idea be of what is added to kerfoot?

Garland is grossly overpaid i would rather keep kerfoot and that’s saying something cause I rather trade kerfoot for a heavier playing forward with some finish

 

[jaric1862]

There’s really no one out there who fills Jake Muzzin’s void on the blue line.

Murphy is a good fit, but not worth spending that much on.

Jake McCabe is another guy I wouldn’t mind, but for 4 million? No thanks.

Edit: Edmundson seems like a good fit.

 

[Field of Dreams]

There’s really no one out there who fills Jake Muzzin’s void on the blue line.

Murphy is a good fit, but not worth spending that much on.

Jake McCabe is another guy I wouldn’t mind, but for 4 million? No thanks.

Edit: Edmundson seems like a good fit.

Murphy checks all the boxes for us: top 4 rhd, shut down, team friendly contract with term.

This is exactly the type of player you pay up for... Quality and fit.

 

[Nhlpowerweek]

So we dont want or have cap space for brossoit (waived)?

 

[Mickey Marner]

Horvat or O'Reilly would be nice, but they're luxuries. A top-pair RHD continues to be a necessity.

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

Imagine a defense of
Brodin - Brodie
Morgan Rielly - Mike Rielly

Make it happen Dubas

 

[Sebastien]

Imagine a defense of
Brodin - Brodie
Morgan Rielly - Mike Rielly

Make it happen Dubas

Minnesota will never ever trade brodin, nor is he waiving

 

[ULF_55]

Minnesota will never ever trade brodin, nor is he waiving

Playing Toronto is never as easy as it is in many other locations.

I suspect he'd disappoint many playing under the weight.

 

[Nhlpowerweek]

I agree that Horvie is one of the best plezayers in the world. He a first or second liner for life. What drive does the man have.... high as F. Captain also. Its a shame he dont have a place in OUR roster. Horvat's real name btw is Bowie. A fun fact.

There’s really no one out there who fills Jake Muzzin’s void on the blue line.

Murphy is a good fit, but not worth spending that much on.

Jake McCabe is another guy I wouldn’t mind, but for 4 million? No thanks.

Edit: Edmundson seems like a good fit.

All these human beings would totally kill in Toronto. Great sight and vision there and some of these killers and jackets is to be gotten

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

To
Toronto
ROR (50% retained) 3.75 mill
Parayko 6.5 mill
‐‐------------------------------------------------
Total 10.25 million

To
St Louis
2023 1st
2024 1st (Top ten protected)
Niemela
2024 2nd
Muzzin 5.6 million
Kerfoot. 3.5 million
Engvall. 2.25
------------------------------------------------
Total. 11.35 million

Resign ROR to 3.5 million for 3 years.

Bunting. Matthews. Marner
Robertson. Tavares. Nylander
Knies. ROR. Jarnkrok
Malgin. Kampf. Zar
Simmonds

Reilly. Parayko
Gio. Liljegren
Sandin. Brodie
Holl

Samsonov
Murray

 

[Jacquestrapless]

To
Toronto
ROR (50% retained) 3.75 mill
Parayko 6.5 mill
‐‐------------------------------------------------
Total 10.25 million

To
St Louis
2023 1st
2024 1st (Top ten protected)
Niemela
2024 2nd
Muzzin 5.6 million
Kerfoot. 3.5 million
Engvall. 2.25
------------------------------------------------
Total. 11.35 million

Resign ROR to 3.5 million for 3 years.

Bunting. Matthews. Marner
Robertson. Tavares. Nylander
Knies. ROR. Jarnkrok
Malgin. Kampf. Zar
Simmonds

Reilly. Parayko
Gio. Liljegren
Sandin. Brodie
Holl

Samsonov
Murray

You forgot to include Robertson and Knies in your trade proposal for our side.

 

[Gabriel426]

There are a lot of ROR stuff lately(every where), did one of those so called insiders came out and said Leafs is looking at ROR or it was just fans rumours?

It seems like their is no middle of the lineup guys anymore.

You have your stars and your role players, but the days of the second/third line players are gone. The tweener offensive guys are being weeded out of NHL lineups.

Bc anyone who can score end up signing for 4-5mil/yr and Leafs can’t afford those 4-5mil forwards.

 

[Folignos Helmet]

If we assume our goalies magically hold together, the all in play would be ROR plus two big dmen from that tier of Gavrikov, Murphy, McCabe, Edmundson, etc.

come playoffs...
Bunts-AM-MM
Knies/Rob-JT-Willie
Kerfoot-ROR-Jarnkrok
Malgin-Kampf-ZAR
Simmer

Rielly-Murphy
Gavrikov-Brodie
Gio-Lily
Benn

 

[Eye Test]

Holls okay but I don’t trust him in game 7s or pressure situations. Agree with most that we need a top 4 D with preferably some grit who can kill penalties. A la Muzzin.

Preferably

X brodie
Rielly lilly
Sandin gio
Holl

 

[Leaffan1991]

To
Toronto
ROR (50% retained) 3.75 mill
Parayko 6.5 mill
‐‐------------------------------------------------
Total 10.25 million

To
St Louis
2023 1st
2024 1st (Top ten protected)
Niemela
2024 2nd
Muzzin 5.6 million
Kerfoot. 3.5 million
Engvall. 2.25
------------------------------------------------
Total. 11.35 million

Resign ROR to 3.5 million for 3 years.

Bunting. Matthews. Marner
Robertson. Tavares. Nylander
Knies. ROR. Jarnkrok
Malgin. Kampf. Zar
Simmonds

Reilly. Parayko
Gio. Liljegren
Sandin. Brodie
Holl

Samsonov
Murray

Parayko and ROR would be amazing for this team but I think they will be asking for our top prospects and firsts

 

[tony135420]

Parayko and ROR would be amazing for this team but I think they will be asking for our top prospects and firsts

I like the idea, but it's scary that Parayko is going to be 37 at the end of his contract.

 

[Cancuks]

What would the Leafs give up for Horvat 50% retained + Schenn at the deadline?

 

[arso40]

I like the idea, but it's scary that Parayko is going to be 37 at the end of his contract.

Yeah it’s a bit long but I don’t think his game will fall off of a cliff by then he’s physical but his body types different and to my knowledge he doesn’t have a history of injuries seems pretty durable

 

[Fogelhund]

Parayko and ROR would be amazing for this team but I think they will be asking for our top prospects and firsts

Is Parayko even that good though anymore? He’s had back injuries and doesn’t look very good since. That, and after Pietrangelo left, he’s had the tough matchups and hasn’t dealt with them as well as secondary.

At 29, back injury concerns don’t seem to be what we should be adding. Especially at $6.5 mil.

 

[justashadowof]

It would be a very Leafie happening if we got the type of forward who could lead the team to the next level (O'Reilly) and it turns out he's finished as a significant player.