Trades and Free Agency - 2022-23 Season Edition

[WTFMAN99]

Its pretty obvious that if the Leafs dont make it past the 1st rd, Dubas is gone next year. Regular season success means jackshit in hindsight to the playoffs.

Dubas has also the reasons to pull a Tampa Bay and go all in

Does he have the cap space, resources and willingness to deal what he needs to do? If he did it all today, would the team gel in time?

 

[ULF_55]

To be fair I'd say Gio is on a bigger discount for what he brings than Krejci.

So he's actually doing more than Krejci then isn't he.

Krejci is selfish, he doesn't care about next year's team! ;-)

 

[DarkKnight]

Lets stop this bring back out old players

Jvr can’t skate on any line for us

Move on from those guys

And we don’t need him on the PP, so what‘s the point?

 

[Peace Frog]

Wonder if it’s doable to go after two top four defensemen at the deadline? Would it be possible to acquire McCabe and Chychrun?

Or insert two other top four defenders. I want two that are physical and at least one of them to have a boomer from the point on the PP

 

[ToneDog]

Wonder if it’s doable to go after two top four defensemen at the deadline? Would it be possible to acquire McCabe and Chychrun?

Or insert two other top four defenders. I want two that are physical and at least one of them to have a boomer from the point on the PP

Zona asking for 1st + top prospect + prospect.

Hawks asking for $1st + for McCabe with retention.

I wouldn't mind one of them. Two of them is a pipe dream.

 

[notdoneyet]

What would it cost us for demko and schenn
2024 first sandin Murray b prospect like Steeves

If Jenner Is available
niemela KERFOOT Hirvonen

McCabe from chicago

Robertson 2nd plus.

Bunting Matthews nylander
Janrok tavares marner
Knies Jenner engval
Holmberg Kampf zar

Reilly lilly
McCabe holl
Gio schenn
Timmins/benn

Demko
Samsanov

 

[WTFMAN99]

What would it cost us for demko and schenn
2024 first sandin Murray b prospect like Steeves

If Jenner Is available
niemela KERFOOT Hirvonen

McCabe from chicago

Robertson 2nd plus.

Bunting Matthews nylander
Janrok tavares marner
Knies Jenner engval
Holmberg Kampf zar

Reilly lilly
McCabe holl
Gio schenn
Timmins/benn

Demko
Samsanov

Where's Brodie?

McCabe-Brodie instantly become the shut down duo IMO.

 

[stickty111]

Wonder if it’s doable to go after two top four defensemen at the deadline? Would it be possible to acquire McCabe and Chychrun?

Or insert two other top four defenders. I want two that are physical and at least one of them to have a boomer from the point on the PP

We don't need two. Find one defenceman and one or two forwards

 

[leafsfan5]

Where's Brodie?

McCabe-Brodie instantly become the shut down duo IMO.

With McCabe the defensive core falls in line perfectly imo

McCabe - Brodie: Top tier shutdown pair that matches up against Kucherov/Point
Rielly - Liljergen: The 2nd pair that gets more favourable zone starts for Rielly. Let him utilize his offense with Lilly's mobility able to cover for him
Giordano - Holl: A really solid 3rd pair that is good defensively
Sandin

Only issue is we have a limited amount of cap space + assets to spend. Do we really want to spend it on a defenseman when our forwards struggle to score come playoff time

 

[WTFMAN99]

With McCabe the defensive core falls in line perfectly imo

McCabe - Brodie: Top tier shutdown pair that matches up against Kucherov/Point
Rielly - Liljergen: The 2nd pair that gets more favourable zone starts for Rielly. Let him utilize his offense with Lilly's mobility able to cover for him
Giordano - Holl: A really solid 3rd pair that is good defensively
Sandin

Only issue is we have a limited amount of cap space + assets to spend. Do we really want to spend it on a defenseman when our forwards struggle to score come playoff time

You're likely doing something like Kerfoot + 2nd for McCabe leaving Chicago having to liquidate Kerfoot...shouldn't be hard as Kerfoot's real $$ owed is nothing by March.

Given we have Sandin sitting...someone suggested something like Sandin for Crouse which is better use of funds than letting Sandin simply sit.

 

[Peace Frog]

With McCabe the defensive core falls in line perfectly imo

McCabe - Brodie: Top tier shutdown pair that matches up against Kucherov/Point
Rielly - Liljergen: The 2nd pair that gets more favourable zone starts for Rielly. Let him utilize his offense with Lilly's mobility able to cover for him
Giordano - Holl: A really solid 3rd pair that is good defensively
Sandin

Only issue is we have a limited amount of cap space + assets to spend. Do we really want to spend it on a defenseman when our forwards struggle to score come playoff time

The highly paid forwards we have are going to have to figure out what it takes to score in the playoffs. There are lots of teams that would kill to have the talent up front that we have.

I don’t know how many times we’ve complained about how the defence played, or how the goalie let us down. Using our assets to acquire a couple of top four defenders would help strengthen our back end, and insulate our goaltender.

It doesn’t have to be Chychrun or McCabe either. I just put those two names out there. Getting two physical top four dmen, with one having a cannon from the point on the PP, would make this team infinitely better imo.

 

[thusk]

With McCabe the defensive core falls in line perfectly imo

McCabe - Brodie: Top tier shutdown pair that matches up against Kucherov/Point
Rielly - Liljergen: The 2nd pair that gets more favourable zone starts for Rielly. Let him utilize his offense with Lilly's mobility able to cover for him
Giordano - Holl: A really solid 3rd pair that is good defensively
Sandin

Only issue is we have a limited amount of cap space + assets to spend. Do we really want to spend it on a defenseman when our forwards struggle to score come playoff time

Didn't score a lot game 7 doesn't mean struggle to score... the best way for leafs with so much pressure like toronto its winning the series before reach game #7... if leafs reach game 7, for sure pressure will be 4X higher... if they need to play game #7, they cant allow the 1st goal or the pressure will be X20 higher... if you giving up 1st goal + the opponent goalie is hot, the pressure will be X100...thats why leafs didn't score a lot, they need to play game 7 and always allowing the 1st goal...whatever the move they will, the pressure will stay there

Right now leafs waste their best offensive dman to play a shutdown role with brodie... so yes they need a defensive dman

 

[kb]

To be fair I'd say Gio is on a bigger discount for what he brings than Krejci.

Krejci's literally having the best season of his career at $1 million cap hit.

He's playing a much more vital role/position.

 

[Kiwi]

Feel like a 3C that's good defensively and can offer some offense along with a top 4D is the way to go.

I'd like a 2way 3C as well but I'd go with a middle 6 LW instead of the top 4D

I think the D will be so expensive to aquire it will limit other possible adds

We have some good assets to trade but those disappear pretty quickly when you're playing at the top end of the market

 

[Americanadian]

Krejci's literally having the best season of his career at $1 million cap hit.

He's playing a much more vital role/position.

Gio has played the 2nd most minutes among Leafs defenseman this year and 4th highest TOI/GP. Krejci is 5th among Bruins forwards in TOI/GP and 7th in total TOI. I'd say Gio has been just as vital.

 

[Anthrax442]

It's going to be buyers market, we'll pick up someone good.

 

[Morgs]

This thread should only be about trading for Jake McCabe and Taylor Raddysh.

You kill 2 birds with one stone.

You get a really quality depth winger, who has scored 14 goals this year, played 28 games for the Soo Greyhounds and on a contract for under 800k for this year and next year.

You also get a quality top 4 defenseman who can solidify playing beside L*****n and you lock him in for the next couple years (this year +2).



Can't skate well enough for what this team is built on. Isn't physical enough to play on the 3rd line. I don't see it.

I let it go tbe first time I saw it, but its almost confirmed Raddysh is part of the 2018 WJC Canada rape. Let's not do that, and we also have no need for McCabe as out #7.

 

[Morgs]

I've never heard Farabee as a name that is available, if so, Sandin, no problem as the starting point.

The starting point?

 

[Menzinger]

RE: Kane/ROR

When’s the last time a player on the downturn joined a team for a playoff run and returned to their “prime” production?

Kessel comes to mind. But it's definitely few and far between

 

[Menzinger]

Half the fanbase was clamouring for this move, he makes 4 million and would've fit perfectly as a 2LW

Instead we pay Kerfoot 3.5 to be our 4C when everyone is healthy

I've actually been a fan of Nino since his time with the Wild and would be interested in a potential acquisition for him.

That said I'm not sure he's necessarily an upgrade on Kerfoot as far as the playoffs are concerned - one of the knocks against him is his quite post-seasons

 

[Antropovsky]

Team is fine. D is more than fine. Need another forward and Sammy to prove he's a big game goalie

What were the first period stats when the game was scoreless? From the beginning of the second the Leafs played from behind most of the game. typically this effects how opposing teams attack.

 

[Dekes For Days]

What were the first period stats when the game was scoreless?

At the time of Boston's first goal, the Leafs had 60.7% of the expected goal share.

 

[Amadeus]

What were the first period stats when the game was scoreless? From the beginning of the second the Leafs played from behind most of the game. typically this effects how opposing teams attack.

That's bait.

Honestly, Boston had the superior high danger chances. Game was pretty even. Our brain farts were more glaring while their brain farts weren't as much.

We were the worst team last night and its not even close. Mirtle needs to learn to balance his objectivity and subjectivity a bit.

 

[thusk]

RE: Kane/ROR

When’s the last time a player on the downturn joined a team for a playoff run and returned to their “prime” production?

Calm down Kane play with domi and anasthasiou most of the time and right now with dickinson

Remove all matthews nylander jt, bunting kerfoot and let marner playing with kampf and engval on 1st line... not sure he would get a much better production than kane right now. He cant make 4th line player look like elite player...

 

[htpwn]

"If you feel you’re still truly exposed with the unpredictability of Murray and an unproven playoff performer in Samsonov, who still might not be ready for prime time, then you push for Vancouver’s Thatcher Demko or Juuse Saros in Nashville. Many believe Saros will be available when the Predators finally slip out of playoff contention in two or three weeks. Both are 27 years old and locked into extended contracts with very reasonable $5-million (U.S.) cap hits."

Nick Kypreos: Frederik Andersen 2.0? How the Leafs can handle the Matt Murray situation

After a lengthy knee injury, Andersen never regained his status as the Leafs’ No. 1 goaltender. Could it be happening again with Murray?

www.thestar.com

I know, I know, its Kypreos and probably made up, but...

If Saros is available, we have to get him, right?