Trades and Free Agency - 2022-23 Season Edition

[stickty111]

If we are going waste our time with Barbashev, IDK whats the point. If he's part of a bigger addition, then thats different.
Dubas needs to make a swing like he did in the Muzzin trade this time on the forward group. If you can also add on defence, even better.
I believe all 2 we can do

 

[thusk]

Not the best post IMO.

Game 7 vs the Bolts last year, 1 goal - 0-2 on the Power Play
Game 6 vs the Bolts 3 goals for but 0-4 on the PP
Game 7 vs the Habs, 1 goal for, 0-2 on the PP
Game 6 vs the Habs, 2 goals for - 0-4 on the PP
Game 5 vs CBJ, 0 goals for
Game 7 vs the Bruins 1 goal for, 0-2 on the PP

Every single one of these elimination games were winnable had we gotten a bit more offensive punch. They have scored a PP goal in any of those games.

Youre only talk about deciding game, how many deciding had been played
Tampa 3 in 12 series Last 3 years
Colorado 0
stl 2
Washington 1
Pitsburgh 3 in 8
Chicago 1

How many deciding game leafs played last 5 series? Maybe the problem is not how they played during deciding game but how they played during 1st 6 game

 

[ULF_55]

Youre only talk about deciding game, how many deciding had been played
Tampa 3 in 12 series Last 3 years
Colorado 0
stl 2
Washington 1
Pitsburgh 3 in 8
Chicago 1

How many deciding game leafs played last 5 series? Maybe the problem is not how they played during deciding game but how they played during 1st 6 game

Your point is, if they had those players it wouldn't have gone to game 7?

 

[thusk]

Your point is, if they had those players it wouldn't have gone to game 7?

My point is i just dont understand why people was focusing on 1 game like if the entire series depend on that only game...

Like how they played game 7 is more important than how they played game 2 4 and 6...

 

[Americanadian]

Meier @50%, Benning for Sandin, Hildeby, 2023 1st, 2024 1st - sign Meier 9Mx8

Henrique @50% for 2024 2nd, Steeves, Kerfoot (optional Muzzin if Anaheim wants him)

This year:

Bunting-Matthews-Nylander
Engvall-Tavares-Meier
Jarnrkrok-Henrique-Marner
Holmberg-Kampf-Anderson
Knies

Rielly-Benning
Brodie-Holl
Gio-Liljegren

Samsonov
Murray

Next year:

Sign Bunting 3.75Mx8 (30M)
Sign Samsonov 4Mx4(?)
Sign Holmberg/Anderson/Timmins

Trade Murray (assuming he has non negative value)

3 scoring lines, arrange the defense how you wish.

 

[ULF_55]

My point is i just dont understand why people was focusing on 1 game like if the entire series depend on that only game...

Like how they played game 7 is more important than how they played game 2 4 and 6...

Perhaps because winning the 4th. game is more important than winning the 3rd. game?

 

[thusk]

Perhaps because winning the 4th. game is more important than winning the 3rd. game?

But if youre playing the right way exemple game 3 vs columbus... a game they Had no reason to lost, maybe the serie is over in 4

Game 5 vs mtl, if they didn't start so smooth... probably the serie is over

Game 2 or 4 vs tampa is they are not so trash, maybe unstead of a lost in 7, you win it in 5 or 6... or if they find a way to protect a lead or whatever...

 

[WTFMAN99]

I can brainstorm and capfriendly until the cows come to home but doesn't change the fact that management did not change enough of the team out in the off-season. There is almost too much to do by the TDL.

Whatever happens, happens. The group will get it done or they won't and major off-season re-structuring will occur, mostly likely at the hands of a different GM.

 

[Mad hatter]

I was surprised to find out that the leafs have the most man games lost in the league. I think that this is the year to go for, we’re right there with the best and need to do whatever it takes imho

 

[kb]

We all need to understand that the Bruins are gaming the cap this season by paying their 2 top-6 centres a total of Kerfoot's salary. Next year they will have to blow it up because of the carryover bonuses. We also need to understand that no team has lost more man games this season than the Leafs.

It would be like the Leafs paying $3.5 million total for Matthews and Tavares. Does anyone think the Leafs wouldn't be a powerhouse with more scoring depth if they had that sort of built in advantage?

 

[NHLInjuryViz]

I was surprised to find out that the leafs have the most man games lost in the league. I think that this is the year to go for, we’re right there with the best and need to do whatever it takes imho

That's more than a little illusory. They're still top 10 but anything putting them at the top means you're counting six players who've been on Season Opening IR who weren't going to be on the roster (at a stretch, Carl Dahlström might've been the 7-8 D).

 

[Dekes For Days]

That's more than a little illusory. They're still top 10 but anything putting them at the top means you're counting six players who've been on Season Opening IR who weren't going to be on the roster (at a stretch, Carl Dahlström might've been the 7-8 D).

What six players have been on the season opening IR who weren't going to be on the roster?

 

[NHLInjuryViz]

What six players have been on the season opening IR who weren't going to be on the roster?

Amirov and Dahlström (all season, so 52 games each), Woll (18 games), Abramov (6 games), Kressler and Rindell (4 games each).

 

[Fogelhund]

I can brainstorm and capfriendly until the cows come to home but doesn't change the fact that management did not change enough of the team out in the off-season. There is almost too much to do by the TDL.

Whatever happens, happens. The group will get it done or they won't and major off-season re-structuring will occur, mostly likely at the hands of a different GM.

Easy to look back, but then I don't see a whole host of names that we should have signed, that went elsewhere. To me at the time, missing out on Statsny for $1.5 mil was a miss... but then he's only put up 16 points, so he's scoring at a lesser rate than Holmberg as a rookie.

I don't know who we end up trading for, but I guarantee those names weren't likely available in the offseason, and rarely are.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Easy to look back, but then I don't see a whole host of names that we should have signed, that went elsewhere. To me at the time, missing out on Statsny for $1.5 mil was a miss... but then he's only put up 16 points, so he's scoring at a lesser rate than Holmberg as a rookie.

I don't know who we end up trading for, but I guarantee those names weren't likely available in the offseason, and rarely are.

You wouldn't have tried to trade off Kerfoot after the bonus was paid out or Holl to change things?

Nino over Kerfoot? Rutta or Mattaa over Holl?

Jarnkrok was a nice add, ditto Samsonov.

He made some nice adds but imo guilty of not changing enough either from a roster that has largely left us disappointed in the post-season.

 

[leafsfan5]

You wouldn't have tried to trade off Kerfoot after the bonus was paid out or Holl to change things?

Nino over Kerfoot? Rutta or Mattaa over Holl?

Jarnkrok was a nice add, ditto Samsonov.

He made some nice adds but imo guilty of not changing enough either from a roster that has largely left us disappointed in the post-season.

Half the fanbase was clamouring for this move, he makes 4 million and would've fit perfectly as a 2LW

Instead we pay Kerfoot 3.5 to be our 4C when everyone is healthy

 

[Kiwi]

We all need to understand that the Bruins are gaming the cap this season by paying their 2 top-6 centres a total of Kerfoot's salary. Next year they will have to blow it up because of the carryover bonuses. We also need to understand that no team has lost more man games this season than the Leafs.

It would be like the Leafs paying $3.5 million total for Matthews and Tavares. Does anyone think the Leafs wouldn't be a powerhouse with more scoring depth if they had that sort of built in advantage?

People don't want to think about that, it's easier to just blame management

Those two centers aren't young men either, they need to go all in now because this is probably as good as it's ever going to get with that group

I do think we should use our money and assets to try getting two guys who can make our 3rd line more of a scoring threat

I think that's the best way for us to improve the team without blowing out brains out for a Meier type (who I ******* love by the way)

 

[WTFMAN99]

People don't want to think about that, it's easier to just blame management

Those two centers aren't young men either, they need to go all in now because this is probably as good as it's ever going to get with that group

I do think we should use our money and assets to try getting two guys who can make our 3rd line more of a scoring threat

I think that's the best way for us to improve the team without blowing out brains out for a Meier type (who I ******* love by the way)

Feel like a 3C that's good defensively and can offer some offense along with a top 4D is the way to go.

 

[MarMarSab3]

Say Leafs falter again come playoffs, and no Matthews extension done in off season, does a Matthews + Sandin get you Cooley, Geekie, Guenther and a 1st from Arizona?

 

[disgruntleddave]

I really wonder if timmins makes sandin somewhat expendable. Sandin has had great stats with Lilly but consistently seems to make some low iq / awareness defensive decisions.

If he's your main trade chip maybe you can get a decent winger in return or more. I'd still look for a D for now as timmins could be a future option but he's not there yet.

 

[TheDoldrums]

I really wonder if timmins makes sandin somewhat expendable. Sandin has had great stats with Lilly but consistently seems to make some low iq / awareness defensive decisions.

If he's your main trade chip maybe you can get a decent winger in return or more. I'd still look for a D for now as timmins could be a future option but he's not there yet.

Don't really see how a RHD makes a LHD expendable. Our left side actually seems less promising than our right side for the first time in forever. Between Liljegren, Timmins and Niemela we are pretty good with young RHD options going forward, but its pretty much just Sandin on the left side. Who knows how long Gio has left, I think we need Sandin unless they're acquiring another LHD.

Chychrun would definitely make Sandin expendable though...

 

[All Mod Cons]

Amirov and Dahlström (all season, so 52 games each), Woll (18 games), Abramov (6 games), Kressler and Rindell (4 games each).

Agreed

 

[disgruntleddave]

True. I guess I was thinking more from a role perspective (offensive, defensive Dman) than left handed v right handed.

 

[Americanadian]

We all need to understand that the Bruins are gaming the cap this season by paying their 2 top-6 centres a total of Kerfoot's salary. Next year they will have to blow it up because of the carryover bonuses. We also need to understand that no team has lost more man games this season than the Leafs.

It would be like the Leafs paying $3.5 million total for Matthews and Tavares. Does anyone think the Leafs wouldn't be a powerhouse with more scoring depth if they had that sort of built in advantage?

To be fair I'd say Gio is on a bigger discount for what he brings than Krejci.

 

[OVO16]

Its pretty obvious that if the Leafs dont make it past the 1st rd, Dubas is gone next year. Regular season success means jackshit in hindsight to the playoffs.

Dubas has also the reasons to pull a Tampa Bay and go all in