Trades and Free Agency - 2022-23 Season Edition

[ACC1224]

This is a bit disingenuous no? Schneider played 5 seasons as a starter in NJ and 3 seasons with a SV% above .920.

Saying Lou wasted assets on Schneider is the equivalent of saying Dubas wasted assets on Muzzin.

More dramatic that way though.

 

[rojac]

For those in favour of getting Jonathan Toews, I think that he is unlikely to go to Toronto. He has a full NMC and I suspect he’s going to hold out for a trade to Winnipeg. He‘s a Winnipeg boy and would probably rather win a Cup there. About the only way he ends up in Toronto would be at the last minute if no deal can be made with Winnipeg and Toronto still has the resources to make a deal.

 

[Schennanigans]

Current 1-8 is the same.



Current 1-8 is the same.

Guy I'd want is Tarasenko. Would be cheaper than a guy like Meier and could probably get him to re-sign for less. Would look great on either of the top 2 lines.

I’d love for us to add him. Would look great for us.

 

[thusk]

If the Islanders can re-sign Horvat, not sure how anyone can argue that trade. Pretty reasonable price for the Islanders. It’s almost the equivalent of us moving Kerfoot, Robertson, a 1st and maybe a 2nd given we’re higher in the standings than the Islanders for a top six center.

Right now its closer of kerfoot, liljegren and minten in term of value... we didn't talk about a late 1st, we talk about the 14th overal pick or a unprotected pick from an average team. Pick of NYI is closer of liljegren value ( i consider a similar value than a romanov) than leafs 1st pick

 

[ToneDog]

If the Islanders can re-sign Horvat, not sure how anyone can argue that trade. Pretty reasonable price for the Islanders. It’s almost the equivalent of us moving Kerfoot, Robertson, a 1st and maybe a 2nd given we’re higher in the standings than the Islanders for a top six center.

Kerfoot is a rental. Beauvillier has another year at 4.5. We really don't have an equivalent. Robbie has zero value now. You'd probably have to include Knies.

The good thing is that it looks like it could be a buyers market.

 

[Judas Tavares]

Lou traded the pick that turned into Horvat and eventually got him back. So that means.... Big trade for Konecny on the horizon!

 

[Judas Tavares]

Beauvillier's never had a 40 point season. Kerfoot has 3, including 51 points last season.

IMO, Beauvillier at $4.2 until the end of next season is more of a cap dump than anything else.

I'll admit, I think I have Josh Anderson syndrome with Beauvillier. Anderson scores vs. the Leafs to show off to his childhood friends and I believe has 16% of his total goals with the Habs vs. the Leafs. So it seems like he's this great power forward but he's fairly useless, especially for his contract, when not facing the Leafs.

I feel like whenever I see Beauvillier play he looks pretty useful, but that might be him personally playing the Leafs (or maybe the Islanders a bit as a whole stepping it up cause the Tavares thing).

 

[ULF_55]

For those in favour of getting Jonathan Toews, I think that he is unlikely to go to Toronto. He has a full NMC and I suspect he’s going to hold out for a trade to Winnipeg. He‘s a Winnipeg boy and would probably rather win a Cup there. About the only way he ends up in Toronto would be at the last minute if no deal can be made with Winnipeg and Toronto still has the resources to make a deal.

I've wondered about that, but don't know his personal life?

He went to NCAA, and what does he do in off season?

Is he still with the same person who has a business in Chicago?

It isn't like Winnipeg would be his only option, and so who knows.

Going home to LA / Toronto is quite different than going home to Winnipeg ;-)

 

[Damisoph]

Guy I'd want is Tarasenko. Would be cheaper than a guy like Meier and could probably get him to re-sign for less. Would look great on either of the top 2 lines.

Was thinking about Tarasenko on JTs wing but then I saw that absolutely pathetic play he made on Willy's OT winner a few weeks back.

 

[ACC1224]

I'll admit, I think I have Josh Anderson syndrome with Beauvillier. Anderson scores vs. the Leafs to show off to his childhood friends and I believe has 16% of his total goals with the Habs vs. the Leafs. So it seems like he's this great power forward but he's fairly useless, especially for his contract, when not facing the Leafs.

I feel like whenever I see Beauvillier play he looks pretty useful, but that might be him personally playing the Leafs (or maybe the Islanders a bit as a whole stepping it up cause the Tavares thing).

Imagine him being able to show off every night?
Not popular but I think he would be a great pick up.

Was thinking about Tarasenko on JTs wing but then I saw that absolutely pathetic play he made on Willy's OT winner a few weeks back.

We tend to see that in a lot of games 3 on 3, I don't think it would be an issue come playoffs.
He would be a great add, IMO.

 

[Peace Frog]

One consideration, sign Meier and trade Willy or Mitch. I'm not advocating that approach, but it is an option.

Sign Meier and trade whichever of the two of Willy and MM, that are asking for too much. That’s what I would do. Personally, I would lean towards trading Willy though.

 

[TopProspect91]

Was thinking about Tarasenko on JTs wing but then I saw that absolutely pathetic play he made on Willy's OT winner a few weeks back.

I watched the Blues/Jets game last night and he looked lively. Good on the boards, great puck handling and guy can obviously shoot. Don't think it'd cost more than a first and maybe a B prospect.

 

[ACC1224]

Sign Meier and trade whichever of the two of Willy and MM, that are asking for too much. That’s what I would do. Personally, I would lean towards trading Willy though.

I don't believe Nylander and Marner are up at the same time. Did you mean AM?

 

[X66]

Was thinking about Tarasenko on JTs wing but then I saw that absolutely pathetic play he made on Willy's OT winner a few weeks back.

People could say the same thing about Marner and Matthews if they only watched us in OT this year…

Tarasenko is the best pure sniper available.

 

[ToneDog]

Sign Meier and trade whichever of the two of Willy and MM, that are asking for too much. That’s what I would do. Personally, I would lean towards trading Willy though.

You'd be selling high. Imagine adding Meier and trading Willie for a similar package that Calgary received for Tkachuk.

 

[DarkKnight]

For those in favour of getting Jonathan Toews, I think that he is unlikely to go to Toronto. He has a full NMC and I suspect he’s going to hold out for a trade to Winnipeg. He‘s a Winnipeg boy and would probably rather win a Cup there. About the only way he ends up in Toronto would be at the last minute if no deal can be made with Winnipeg and Toronto still has the resources to make a deal.

 

[Peace Frog]

I don't believe Nylander and Marner are up at the same time. Did you mean AM?

No they’re not, unfortunately. Definitely didn’t mean AM. Lol. This is a tough situation really. I absolutely LOVE Marner, but I really worry that he’s going to be asking for the moon on his next contract.

I think he’s overpaid as it is, and really, should only be getting what he’s currently getting, on his next contract.

Although there are things about Willy’s game that really frustrate me, he has played great and is definitely outplaying his current contract.

Problem is, he was VERY difficult to get under contract last time around. What’s it going to be like this time?

 

[ULF_55]

Right now its closer of kerfoot, liljegren and minten in term of value... we didn't talk about a late 1st, we talk about the 14th overal pick or a unprotected pick from an average team. Pick of NYI is closer of liljegren value ( i consider a similar value than a romanov) than leafs 1st pick

Except the Islanders didn't include anything of value equal to Liljegren.
A pick in the teens, a 3rd. liner, and a prospect in the minors.

More like Holmberg, Jarnkrok, 1st. and 3rd.

Beauvillier is UFA after next season, already making 4.15 producing 3rd. line points.
Jarnkrok is older, definitely, but half the price for twice the term, and same production.
Jarnkrok doesn't fit their ask, but their big win is potential. Perhaps they get a good player with their pick, perhaps the minor league prospect can become an NHL player.

Swap in Hirvonen if you want.

Canucks really traded away an UFA for hope.

 

[TMLAM34]

Kerfoot is a rental. Beauvillier has another year at 4.5. We really don't have an equivalent. Robbie has zero value now. You'd probably have to include Knies.

The good thing is that it looks like it could be a buyers market.

Honestly, I’m surprised Vancouver was okay with taking on Beauvillier’s contract. But I guess if you were to take on one of the Islanders bad contracts, he’d be the best one.

 

[thusk]

Except the Islanders didn't include anything of value equal to Liljegren.
A pick in the teens, a 3rd. liner, and a prospect in the minors.

More like Holmberg, Jarnkrok, 1st. and 3rd.

Beauvillier is UFA after next season, already making 4.15 producing 3rd. line points.
Jarnkrok is older, definitely, but half the price for twice the term, and same production.
Jarnkrok doesn't fit their ask, but their big win is potential. Perhaps they get a good player with their pick, perhaps the minor league prospect can become an NHL player.

Swap in Hirvonen if you want.

Canucks really traded away an UFA for hope.

1st pick whos right now 14th ...

Romanov had been traded for 13th overall and switch of 2nd and 3rd pick... its a pretty similar value for liljegren

 

[TMLAM34]

Except the Islanders didn't include anything of value equal to Liljegren.
A pick in the teens, a 3rd. liner, and a prospect in the minors.

More like Holmberg, Jarnkrok, 1st. and 3rd.

Beauvillier is UFA after next season, already making 4.15 producing 3rd. line points.
Jarnkrok is older, definitely, but half the price for twice the term, and same production.
Jarnkrok doesn't fit their ask, but their big win is potential. Perhaps they get a good player with their pick, perhaps the minor league prospect can become an NHL player.

Swap in Hirvonen if you want.

Canucks really traded away an UFA for hope.

We complain about Kerfoot at 3.5 million, Beauvillier is even worse making more and has another year on his contract… If the Islanders re-sign Horvat, they did real good on the trade.

 

[LeafSteel]

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I had to put on a sweater just to read this post.....

That's cold man, literally.

 

[Dreakmur]

I had to put on a sweater just to read this post.....

That's cold man, literally.

Not bad when you just drive from indoor parking to indoor parking!

 

[TMLAM34]

1st pick whos right now 14th ...

Romanov had been traded for 13th overall and switch of 2nd and 3rd pick... its a pretty similar value for liljegren

They’re also 5 points away from having the 20th pick. They’re clearly looking to add and compete for a playoff spot. I don’t think their pick will drop any further than the 14th pick and only get higher.

Beauvillier is worse than Kerfoot and the fact that Kerfoot is a free agent is probably worth more than having Beauvillier on contract for another year making over 4 million. Plus Kerfoot is from Vancouver, wouldn’t be surprised if he were to sign there in the summer regardless.

 

[ACC1224]

No they’re not, unfortunately. Definitely didn’t mean AM. Lol. This is a tough situation really. I absolutely LOVE Marner, but I really worry that he’s going to be asking for the moon on his next contract.

I think he’s overpaid as it is, and really, should only be getting what he’s currently getting, on his next contract.

Although there are things about Willy’s game that really frustrate me, he has played great and is definitely outplaying his current contract.

Problem is, he was VERY difficult to get under contract last time around. What’s it going to be like this time?

You would have to think Dubas will have a very good sense of all that.