Trades and Free Agency - 2022-23 Season Edition

[Fogelhund]

Toews - 17 5v5 points
Kerfoot - 18 5v5 points.

I guess there's faceoff wins though.

 

[Warden of the North]

Any good player that doesn't get traded to Boston or Tampa Bay is good in my books. Keep em coming.

Ya that's my main takeaway here.

Borvat likely the best forward to move (aside from Kane?) and I'm happy its not to a direct rival.

That said, I think Boston throws a bunch of money at him this summer to replace Bergeron.

 

[stickty111]

Buchnevich is the guy I want assuming he's available and healthy. Obviously Meier would be the home run

 

[Dreakmur]

Isn't Max Jones essentially another Nick Ritchie?

I don’t think so. He’s got speed and is a smart defender. He doesn’t have great offensive upside.

 

[TML Dynasty]

Even if Meier takes 8 next year….and I saw in trade thread he wants 9……I can’t see how we fit him in next year. We’d lose/not be able to resign a bunch of people too.

I’m sitting here really hoping for it but it’s a pipe dream……

 

[SprDaVE]

Even if Meier takes 8 next year….and I saw in trade thread he wants 9……I can’t see how we fit him in next year. We’d lose/not be able to resign a bunch of people too.

I’m sitting here really hoping for it but it’s a pipe dream……

Just think of him as a rental. It's that simple.

 

[dubplatepressure]

Just think of him as a rental. It's that simple.

Exactly. And I’d pay the price. 1st, B-prospect, and young roster player. We will get the 1st and prospect back in the summer.

 

[kb]

Exactly. And I’d pay the price. 1st, B-prospect, and young roster player. We will get the 1st and prospect back in the summer.

That's not a smart move. No guarantee on a good return because the Leafs would either have to negotiate a new contract or Meier can elect $10 million in arbitration. They won't have much time to trade him off, and they would need to. That also completely messes up UFA if they haven't moved him by July 1st.

And more to the point, who is going to pay to get the Leafs out of that looming disaster?

No one.

Just think of him as a rental. It's that simple.

Hard passsss.

 

[meefer]

In responding to a post in another thread I wrote, "One player I have curiousity about: Mikael Backlund. I think Calgary is in tough to get the wild card. Their forward group is aging. Backlund at 5.35 is expensive, but according to Dom's model at the Athletic he's playing at a value of 6.6 and shows a 98th percentile defensively, while putting up 9G/20A in 50G. He can PK and would be able to deal with the minutes at 3C. Is he an upgrade over a Henrique? Yes?? How much would he cost in a trade? I'd guess Kerfoot would have to go the other way for cap purposes. What else?"

I know after the big trade this year Calgary is up against it, but with Edmonton and Colorado ahead of them today, I just can't see Calgary getting in. Their prospect pool is rated 20th by Wheeler and their forward group today is avg 29.6 yrs old. Kadri will be 33 next year, Huberdeau 30, heck Lindholm will be 29 next season. They're projected to have 80.5 on the books for next year with 15 players signed.

Would Backlund be a good option for us as a 3C?

 

[kb]

So let's do this Horvat trade tree.

Lou spent a 1st (9th overall - Horvat) to get Schneider, who was damaged goods and promptly turned into an injured pumpkin, and then he spent a former first rounder (Beauvillier), a 2nd (Aatu Raty), and another first to get Horvat.

So now he has both Horvat and Schneider.

However, unless a deal gets done soon.....by the end of game 82, it's very likely both Horvat and Schneider will be gone for nothing. And it will have cost him 3 1sts and a 2nd for a damaged goods injured goalie, and less than a half season of Horvat..

You can't make this stuff up.

 

[meefer]

That's not a smart move. No guarantee on a good return because the Leafs would either have to negotiate a new contract or Meier can elect $10 million in arbitration. They won't have much time to trade him off, and they would need to. That also completely messes up UFA if they haven't moved him by July 1st.

And more to the point, who is going to pay to get the Leafs out of that looming disaster?

No one.


Hard passsss.

One consideration, sign Meier and trade Willy or Mitch. I'm not advocating that approach, but it is an option.

 

[dubplatepressure]

That's not a smart move. No guarantee on a good return because the Leafs would either have to negotiate a new contract or Meier can elect $10 million in arbitration. They won't have much time to trade him off, and they would need to. That also completely messes up UFA if they haven't moved him by July 1st.

And more to the point, who is going to pay to get the Leafs out of that looming disaster?

No one.


Hard passsss.

Smart? He’s the best player available and a perfect fit on a position we need most, and 2/3 of assets we won’t the the impact of for at least 2-3 years, well after some of our core may have walked. The time is now, friend.

Teams will somehow want nothing to do with Meier in the summer but he’s one of the most prized players now? I don’t buy it.

 

[Buds17]

Exactly. And I’d pay the price. 1st, B-prospect, and young roster player. We will get the 1st and prospect back in the summer.

Have to hope for a good playoff run with Meier then because the young player from the roster could arguably be the best part of that return (on paper).

 

[ErnieLeafs]

Toews for the 3C spot is exactly who we need. Gimme any one of Buchnevich, Comtois, Crouse, Jones (Anh), as a winger to make life miserable for the opposition, and I love what we’re rolling into the playoffs with

 

[rocketman588]

Raty is a very hit and miss type of prospect. He does have a lot of upside and to me the center piece of this trade

That first is 3 -4 years away

Really not sure if Horvat pushes Isles needles.

Horvat is a significantly better piece then Raty and they got the cap dump a player as well.

He's a top line player while raty could maaaaybe be at that level. If they resign him to an ok deal it's a pretty good one for them. After thinking about it for a bit I think I like this a lot

 

[rocketman588]

Have to hope for a good playoff run with Meier then because the young player from the roster could arguably be the best part of that return (on paper).

The odds of our third best prospect being better then a 30+ goal borderline PPG guy is pretty low

 

[Nooodles]

Isles had to do something and Lou was likely the point of having no choice. They were in a tough spot. I think both teams okay here though. Horvat didn't have as much value as initially thought and he was getting a bit overrated IMO. Isles get a good player they needed.
Vancouver gets a prospect and likely a decent 1st in the trade.
Obviously with rentals, the team getting him needs to make the playoffs or sign otherwise it's a bad trade

Lou had a choice. Start a proper rebuild 3 years ago. Now he is ruining that franchise for the next 8 years.

 

[Buds17]

The odds of our third best prospect being better then a 30+ goal borderline PPG guy is pretty low

I was referring to the young player currently on the (Leaf) roster "hypothetically" having the possibility of being better than the 1st round pick or B prospect (which could technically cancel each other out since they'd be a part of both Toronto acquiring and trading away Meier). That player would obviously not be a Meier in either productivity or salary.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Have to give Lou credit. He doesn’t sit on his hands.

Lou literally sat on his hands all offseason, which is why he's now scrambling and eating away at the Islander's future even more in a desperate attempt to save his season.

 

[TopProspect91]

Guy I'd want is Tarasenko. Would be cheaper than a guy like Meier and could probably get him to re-sign for less. Would look great on either of the top 2 lines.

 

[Americanadian]

So let's do this Horvat trade tree.

Lou spent a 1st (9th overall - Horvat) to get Schneider, who was damaged goods and promptly turned into an injured pumpkin

This is a bit disingenuous no? Schneider played 5 seasons as a starter in NJ and 3 seasons with a SV% above .920.

Saying Lou wasted assets on Schneider is the equivalent of saying Dubas wasted assets on Muzzin.

 

[123offtheglass]

Horvat not going to Boston or Tampa, especially Boston, is great

I can’t see this trade working out for the Islanders, it’s very likely gonna go poorly for them.

 

[Gallagbi]

Guy I'd want is Tarasenko. Would be cheaper than a guy like Meier and could probably get him to re-sign for less. Would look great on either of the top 2 lines.

Im on the Tank train too. Down year, has the ability to turn it on in playoffs (historically he has) and shouldnt be as costly as some others

 

[TMLAM34]

If the Islanders can re-sign Horvat, not sure how anyone can argue that trade. Pretty reasonable price for the Islanders. It’s almost the equivalent of us moving Kerfoot, Robertson, a 1st and maybe a 2nd given we’re higher in the standings than the Islanders for a top six center.

 

[Bomber0104]

If the Islanders can re-sign Horvat, not sure how anyone can argue that trade. Pretty reasonable price for the Islanders. It’s almost the equivalent of us moving Kerfoot, Robertson, a 1st and maybe a 2nd given we’re higher in the standings than the Islanders for a top six center.

Yeah but isn't it way funner to declare winners/losers of a trade just a few hours after it happens?