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Which players currently do you consider to be 'good offensively and weak defensively' ?
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I would argue this team could definitely use more scoring depth.
Our top 12 + Robertson and potentially Knies is a good group, but scoring still seems to dry up every playoffs. Toronto loves a blue collar hero and I believe there is value to having someone with that kind of attitude in your top 6. An upgraded Bunting that shores up the LW.
I'd love a top 4 RHD as well, but then you aren't dressing Lilly or Holl and I feel like it would need to be a pretty good player to make that a big net positive.
Tyler Bertuzzi would be the perfect fit IMO. Maybe Detroit is willing to move him closer to the deadline and if I were Dubas I’d be doing whatever it takes to trade for him or sign him this off-season as a UFA.
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Just got injured again, 4-6 weeks out. Very injury prone.
Anderson is only capable of scoring goals by slipping behind the other team's defense and waiting for a breakaway pass; he's near useless otherwise. And because he's only effective as a scorer when blowing the D-zone, he's very bad defensively...
Stephen
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Anderson is such an underachiever. He would be palatable at 50% retention though.
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At full cap, Anderson is not worth his cap hit. With retention, Anderson won't be worth his acquisition cost.
Let's just let this idea die it's proper death.
Let's just let this idea die it's proper death.
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Fairly weak defensively are Mo and Nylander. Tavares is average at best.
Matthews and Marner do give up a lot of chances, and goals while they are on the ice, but they make up for it by being elite offensively. Their games are much more rounded than they used to be for sure. If they continue to work on their D games, I'd even say they have a chance at being quite good.
Matthews is having a tough start to his year though. Nothing to get worked up about, it's only been a few games. Historically he's been excellent at faceoffs, but he's struggling so far... I find he hasn't found his groove overall yet, and I'm not sure why... he just isn't as comfortable as he normally is... maybe trying too hard for now.
Again, only three games, but Rielly and Brodie have been tire fires so far defensively.
In other three game samples, as much as Tavares and Nylander haven't been that strong defensively traditionally, they've had excellent results so far. Maybe this is the year they step forward defensively? Who knows.
Our bottom six is constructed of some pretty defensively sound guys. They aren't the best offensively though.
It's just my opinion, that if we are looking to add to the team, we bring in guys who compliment what we have. I think our needs are D, and maybe G (let's see how that plays out). If we obtain D, or a forward, I think they have to be strong defensively, and with some size. We have a lot of forwards who can be at least decent offensively, and quite a few average sized guys. Defensively we don't have much in the system with size.. it's our one blindspot.
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We were 4th in scoring/G out of 16 teams last year.
We were 9th in GA/G out of 16 teams last year.
The only goalie who was a starter, with a worst SV% last year than Campbell, was Husso.
When you are top quartile in goals for, and bottom half in GA, and SV%, I'd suggest finding more scoring isn't the main need.
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No. You can't score against a team you didn't play against.
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Funny thing is I get the sense that most people I suspect think he gets his offensive grinding out in front of the net - when in reality as you said, he's an opportunist who often relies on the rush to get points.
I'd have no interest in him because (awful contract aside) hes got a disappearing act in the post season, when other teams tighten up and he rarely gets to capitalize on those errors
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Imagine what they could have bought in free agency had they been a motivated seller on Muzzin and simply not called Ottawa about a goalie. The possibilities are dizzying.
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We have to stop thinking of NTC as any kind of impediment to a forced move. A GM who is going to do right by the team is going to have to aggressively move on from people if need be. And we needed to move on from Muzzin so badly.
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Ehhh Campbell and Fleury aren't looking too hot right now.
Kuemper was the guy but that's still risk
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Bunting doesn’t look very good either. The magic may have worn off on that one.
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No, I just mean think about the actually roster upgrades they could have made with that cap space in general.
This last off-season confirmed what I have thought for a while now that this management group are not serious about winning. They want to win, but as long as it is with “their” guys.
Muzzin, Kerfoot, Holl for picks gives us a significant amount of cap space to reshape the team without moving a core 4. But Dubas and co. aren’t looking to move off their favourites.
NTC or no NTC, Tampa didn’t hesitate to tell McDonagh to find a new team and thanks for your service. That’s the difference in management groups.
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Mason Marchment was just available as a UFA. He would have been a perfect fit for the Leafs.
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Ryan McDonagh was "Tampa's" guy too, bringing them two Stanley Cups in a row, and he and his NTC clause gets shipped off to Nashville like a week after they lose the cup.
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This Is what makes it so Infuriating especially when I hear flat cap nonsense.
We never had any cap issues we could have moved on from anyone we wanted and formed a different bottom 6 today. They chose THIS direction for the bottom 6 because it's what they wanted. They weren't forced into it because of other big contracts.
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