Trades and Free Agency - 2022-23 Season Edition

[conFABulator]

At this point Kerfoot and Holl combining for 5.5m in cap space is criminal. There's your money to find some scoring punch in the bottom 6 or a higher end 3C who could move up the lineup if needed.

And I agree, the bottom 6 has massively improved from an all 3 zones standpoint, but there's no reliable goal scorer there to feast on the opponent's 3rd pairs. Been a glaring issue since Dubas moved Kadri.

Do we need more scoring punch on the third line? I know more scoring everywhere is always welcome...but doesn't our bottom six seem very well assembled and balanced.

We have two lines that are defensively responsible and one that can chip in a bit of offense. They give us depth and flexibility and provide most of our PK guys. Jarnkrok, Kerfoot and Engvall can all fill in higher in the lineup.

Our bottom six can take the majority of d-zone starts and allow the top six to take the o-zone starts and the PP minutes. Last night we also saw AM and JT out there with NAK and ZAR a bit to get our big guys more minutes with a different look.

If we traded Kerfoot what better, cheaper 3C could we possibly upgrade with?

 

[TheShape]

Do we need more scoring punch on the third line? I know more scoring everywhere is always welcome...but doesn't our bottom six seem very well assembled and balanced.

We have two lines that are defensively responsible and one that can chip in a bit of offense. They give us depth and flexibility and provide most of our PK guys. Jarnkrok, Kerfoot and Engvall can all fill in higher in the lineup.

Our bottom six can take the majority of d-zone starts and allow the top six to take the o-zone starts and the PP minutes. Last night we also saw AM and JT out there with NAK and ZAR a bit to get our big guys more minutes with a different look.

If we traded Kerfoot what better, cheaper 3C could we possibly upgrade with?

Of course we could use more offense in the bottom 6, outside of the big four we don’t really have anything reliable. More options to spread some offense especially come playoff time is a necessity. Maybe Robertson can be that guy?

For me Kerfoot was an off-season move, he isn’t a bad player but between Engvall, Jarnkrok and Kampf there’s too much of the same profile there to carry Kerfoot around at 3.5. Between Kerfoot and Holl there could be better use of that 5.5m on our cap.

 

[Commander Clueless]

If we go full doomsday on Murray and send him to Robidas Island, what goalies are even available in trade?

Pull a Florida and send our next 5 first rounders to Winnipeg for Hellebuyck?

 

[horner]

If Murray continues to be an issue.
One more injury and we will have to think about trading for an experience backup with playoff experience.
Craig Anderson Buffalo
If Buffalo is out of the the playoff by the new year , maybe he may want to go to a contender.
I have wanted him for the last 3 years.

 

[andora]

Through the first 3 games, i have been able to see 7 of 9 periods.. and this is just my opinion but personally i see the play of this group pleading with running three scoring lines
Matthews
Tavares
Nylander

Tavres has points put up but that line.. something just isnt there.. nylander is too much of a cowboy for tavares i think

I would like to see tavares play with jarnkrok first of all.. tavares needs a line that all three forwards are truly playing together and using each other

Nylander needs a couple guys that can cover the work in the d zone and be able to skate with him on the rush.. i dont know if that is kerfoot and kampf.. but tavares has looked good and i would love to have him on a line that is more in his wheelhouse

Could open up the trade kerfoot option if robertson is viewed truly as ready

Robertson tavares jarnkrok
Engvall kampf nylander
Aston reese holmberg aube kubel

 

[Commander Clueless]

If Murray continues to be an issue.
One more injury and we will have to think about trading for an experience backup with playoff experience.
Craig Anderson Buffalo
If Buffalo is out of the the playoff by the new year , maybe he may want to go to a contender.
I have wanted him for the last 3 years.

Probably a more realistic target.

What's the Hildebeast up to?

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

I wonder if Nick Schmaltz becomes an option at some point due to his contract. Could be a JT Miller type of player for us if he'd stay healthy.

$5.85M cap hit vs over $24M owed over the last 3 years of the deal. Would need to free up $5M in space but could be an option next summer to move.

 

[conFABulator]

Of course we could use more offense in the bottom 6, outside of the big four we don’t really have anything reliable. More options to spread some offense especially come playoff time is a necessity. Maybe Robertson can be that guy?

For me Kerfoot was an off-season move, he isn’t a bad player but between Engvall, Jarnkrok and Kampf there’s too much of the same profile there to carry Kerfoot around at 3.5. Between Kerfoot and Holl there could be better use of that 5.5m on our cap.

Agreed. I also thought Kerfoot was an offseason move. I haven't checked the stats and projections but would be Kerfoot, Jarnkrok, Engvall have more offensive upside than most team's third lines? They are two 12-15 goal scorers with a 50 point centre...is there really much better out there?

They are also good defensively and can play up when needed.

If the bottom two lines take the D-zone starts and the top two start in the o-zone 70+% of the time that could be better for our offense than a bottom six chipping in 10 more goals over a full season, no?

 

[Martin Skoula]

At this point Kerfoot and Holl combining for 5.5m in cap space is criminal. There's your money to find some scoring punch in the bottom 6 or a higher end 3C who could move up the lineup if needed.

And I agree, the bottom 6 has massively improved from an all 3 zones standpoint, but there's no reliable goal scorer there to feast on the opponent's 3rd pairs. Been a glaring issue since Dubas moved Kadri.

The only year Kadri played 3C minutes he put up 16 goals, only 12 at ES.

 

[hockeywiz542]

Matt Murray injury affects Maple Leafs’ salary cap and Ilya Samsonov’s ‘mission’

The spotlight is on Maple Leafs' netminder Ilya Samsonov after an injury to Matt Murray, but the affable new backup is poised for the opportunity.

www.sportsnet.ca

The Maple Leafs, it must be noted, are at the 50-contract limit. So if Dubas were to consider acquiring another goalie, a body would have to move.

What Murray’s trip to the club’s maximized LTIR pool does do is free up cap space for recalled Marlies or healthy returns of buried players (Timothy Liljegren, Jordie Benn).

Nick Robertson scored for the Marlies Saturday and deserved a roster spot out of training camp, but the prospect was cut simply because there wasn’t enough wiggle room to accommodate his salary.

 

[notdoneyet]

At this point Kerfoot and Holl combining for 5.5m in cap space is criminal. There's your money to find some scoring punch in the bottom 6 or a higher end 3C who could move up the lineup if needed.

And I agree, the bottom 6 has massively improved from an all 3 zones standpoint, but there's no reliable goal scorer there to feast on the opponent's 3rd pairs. Been a glaring issue since Dubas moved Kadri.

I wish i could give this post a thousand likes

 

[Gallagbi]

At this point Kerfoot and Holl combining for 5.5m in cap space is criminal. There's your money to find some scoring punch in the bottom 6 or a higher end 3C who could move up the lineup if needed.

And I agree, the bottom 6 has massively improved from an all 3 zones standpoint, but there's no reliable goal scorer there to feast on the opponent's 3rd pairs. Been a glaring issue since Dubas moved Kadri.

In theory you can stack our bottom 6 against another teams top 4/top 6 and that leaves Nylander and Tavares facing lower competition

 

[notDatsyuk]

Lol youve been spending too much time on the islanders board

First off, I've spent virtually no time there this year, which is completely irrelevant, not to mention a pretty lame 'argument'.

Second, have you watched him? He is getting slower and slower, and other than faceoffs and within about 20 feet of the net, he is very mediocre.

Last night he actually looked best late in the game when he was on the ice with the hyphen twins.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Through the first 3 games, i have been able to see 7 of 9 periods.. and this is just my opinion but personally i see the play of this group pleading with running three scoring lines
Matthews
Tavares
Nylander

Tavres has points put up but that line.. something just isnt there.. nylander is too much of a cowboy for tavares i think

I would like to see tavares play with jarnkrok first of all.. tavares needs a line that all three forwards are truly playing together and using each other

Nylander needs a couple guys that can cover the work in the d zone and be able to skate with him on the rush.. i dont know if that is kerfoot and kampf.. but tavares has looked good and i would love to have him on a line that is more in his wheelhouse

Could open up the trade kerfoot option if robertson is viewed truly as ready

Robertson tavares jarnkrok
Engvall kampf nylander
Aston reese holmberg aube kubel

I've been saying that for a couple of years. The big difference is that I see Nylander as driving the second line and Tavares driving the third.

Or call them 2A and 2B, if you prefer.

 

[LeafChief]

I've been saying that for a couple of years. The big difference is that I see Nylander as driving the second line and Tavares driving the third.

Or call them 2A and 2B, if you prefer.

Tavares-Nylander have played quite well together so far this year.

I agree that they didn't last year (after Nylander got COVID) but so far this year, they lead the team in points playing together after the first week.

 

[andora]

I've been saying that for a couple of years. The big difference is that I see Nylander as driving the second line and Tavares driving the third.

Or call them 2A and 2B, if you prefer.

Yep semantics out the door.. just 3 good lines.. i seems very obvious right now watching how much it needs to happen

Tavares-Nylander have played quite well together so far this year.

I agree that they didn't last year (after Nylander got COVID) but so far this year, they lead the team in points playing together after the first week.

They work well together thats fine but we need to realize the fact they arent dependent on each other is more important..

 

[notDatsyuk]

Tavares-Nylander have played quite well together so far this year.

I agree that they didn't last year (after Nylander got COVID) but so far this year, they lead the team in points playing together after the first week.

They are leading the team right now, but watching them, they just don't seem to mesh well, and they seem to be better apart. I'd just like to see them each driving their own line. If they can do as well or better, it makes the team that much harder to play against.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Tavares-Nylander have played quite well together so far this year.

I agree that they didn't last year (after Nylander got COVID) but so far this year, they lead the team in points playing together after the first week.

Maybe you see it differently than I do but last night was PP, not 5v5 and the problem last year was 5v5 production.

Last year it felt like their points at 5v5 mostly came off broken plays and because they are so talented but not as a result of any bang bang plays where they had any real chemistry. The top line looks super sloppy too though 3 games in.

I thought about separating lines at some point and making Nylander our Kessel.

Bunting-Matthews-Marner
Robertson-JT-Jarnkrok
X-New 3C-Nylander (Eller? Toews? Monahan)
ZAR-Kampf-NAK

 

[ER89]

Through the first 3 games, i have been able to see 7 of 9 periods.. and this is just my opinion but personally i see the play of this group pleading with running three scoring lines
Matthews
Tavares
Nylander

Tavres has points put up but that line.. something just isnt there.. nylander is too much of a cowboy for tavares i think

I would like to see tavares play with jarnkrok first of all.. tavares needs a line that all three forwards are truly playing together and using each other

Nylander needs a couple guys that can cover the work in the d zone and be able to skate with him on the rush.. i dont know if that is kerfoot and kampf.. but tavares has looked good and i would love to have him on a line that is more in his wheelhouse

Could open up the trade kerfoot option if robertson is viewed truly as ready

Robertson tavares jarnkrok
Engvall kampf nylander
Aston reese holmberg aube kubel

so neuter nylander with kampf?

This doesn't make any sense. William drives his lines don't put him with an offensive anchor.

 

[andora]

so neuter nylander with kampf?

This doesn't make any sense. William drives his lines don't put him with an offensive anchor.

Then put holmberg with him.. if he can drive it he drives it.. but you gotta have someone that will be back

 

[4thline]

First off, I've spent virtually no time there this year, which is completely irrelevant, not to mention a pretty lame 'argument'.

Second, have you watched him? He is getting slower and slower, and other than faceoffs and within about 20 feet of the net, he is very mediocre.

Last night he actually looked best late in the game when he was on the ice with the hyphen twins.

It was wasn't an argument. It was mocking incredulity at the idea that JT is overmatched as a 2c. He's lost a step. No longer a top 10C. But a 3C?
He only looks "mediocre" because of a combination of a boring cerebral playstyle and playing in the shadow of three dynamic talents- top 2, 5, and 10 at their positions respectively

 

[Commander Clueless]

Do you think Buffalo would take the picks we got from the Murray trade in exchange for Comrie?

Then we can LTIRetire Murray and pretend we signed Comrie.


....minus MLSE picking up $4.7M worth of Ottawa's bar tab for funsies.....

 

[horner]

Agreed. I also thought Kerfoot was an offseason move. I haven't checked the stats and projections but would be Kerfoot, Jarnkrok, Engvall have more offensive upside than most team's third lines? They are two 12-15 goal scorers with a 50 point centre...is there really much better out there?

They are also good defensively and can play up when needed.

If the bottom two lines take the D-zone starts and the top two start in the o-zone 70+% of the time that could be better for our offense than a bottom six chipping in 10 more goals over a full season, no?

We need defenceman iam not comfortable with sandin.
And we don't have any replacents with the Marlies.
Trade Engval and Kerfoot.
Engval does nothing for me
Would love to add some toughness and scoring
Bring up Holmberg
Trade for a tough scoring winger.

Do you think Buffalo would take the picks we got from the Murray trade in exchange for Comrie?

Then we can LTIRetire Murray and pretend we signed Comrie.


....minus MLSE picking up $4.7M worth of Ottawa's bar tab for funsies.....

Would rather trade for Craig Anderson.

 

[conFABulator]

Matt Murray injury affects Maple Leafs’ salary cap and Ilya Samsonov’s ‘mission’

The spotlight is on Maple Leafs' netminder Ilya Samsonov after an injury to Matt Murray, but the affable new backup is poised for the opportunity.

www.sportsnet.ca

The Maple Leafs, it must be noted, are at the 50-contract limit. So if Dubas were to consider acquiring another goalie, a body would have to move.

What Murray’s trip to the club’s maximized LTIR pool does do is free up cap space for recalled Marlies or healthy returns of buried players (Timothy Liljegren, Jordie Benn).

Nick Robertson scored for the Marlies Saturday and deserved a roster spot out of training camp, but the prospect was cut simply because there wasn’t enough wiggle room to accommodate his salary.

Yeah? Where would you have played Robertson?

We need defenceman iam not comfortable with sandin.
And we don't have any replacents with the Marlies.
Trade Engval and Kerfoot.
Engval does nothing for me
Would love to add some toughness and scoring
Bring up Holmberg
Trade for a tough scoring winger.

Sounds great.

What dman and tough scoring winger do we add in exchange for Engvall, Kerfoot and Sandin?

Trades have to work for both teams and I am not sure we can upgrade our F and D and fit under the cap by trading two UFA forwards and Sandin.

I would love to hear your ideas because I am open to moving all three, I don't see upgrades incoming when you factor in their contracts, they work for us but don't offer a lot of value in a trade to a building a team and contending teams don't have cap room.

 

[TMLAM34]

Bunting - Matthews - Marner
Robertson - Kerfoot - Nylander
Jarnkrok - Tavares - Malgin
Aston Reese - Kampf - Aube Kubel

I’d sit Engvall for a game or two. Not sure if it’s just me or not, but Engvall hasn’t had a very good start to this season.