Trades and Free Agency - 2022-23 Season Edition

[Fogelhund]

while your point is valid - reinhart is a whole tier below william.

Oops. Misread.

 

[thusk]

If Florida is in desperate need to clear out some salary, Reinhart is a guy I wouldn’t mind slotting into our top six.

To Toronto: Sam Reinhart
To Florida: Alex Kerfoot + Ryan Tverberg + 2025 3rd Round Draft Pick

Removing Reinhart and inserting Kerfoot and Duclair (back from injury), the salaries are exactly equal helping Florida stay under the salary cap.


Nylander - Matthews - Reinhart
Bunting - Tavares - Marner

Top six.

I dont think reinhart is the type of player leafa need like claude giroux wasn't the type of player florida reallyd needed last season...i dont think a typical top 6 skilled player is the need

They need hard worker a player who can bring scoring depht... Lars eller could be a bette answer for me than reinhart for whats leafs need

 

[Griffin76]

For me, the only guy that ARI has that really excites me is Hayton as a guy we can get for a discount.

Chychrun and Crouse are overrated and cost a lot more than they are worth.

Hayton would be a nice add for sure. I've been hoping for him since before last season started as our 3rd C. I'm higher on Crouse and Chychrun than most but I've watched probably 75% of their games over the last 3+ years. I see a lot of the intangibles that don't show up on stat sheets. Chychrun is better defensively than a lot give him credit for. And tougher too. He hits, clears the crease area and even fights when needed. Crouse has the speed, physicality and the scoring touch to be in the top 6 but probably better suited for the 3rd. The cost to acquire either or both wouldn't be worth it though.

 

[BertCorbeau]

If Washington continues to struggle, Martha is an intriguing name.

Conor Sheary could be a cheap option too if big names are too pricey.

 

[jiggy35]

I would give a f*** ton for Meier

 

[SeaOfBlue]

If Washington continues to struggle, Martha is an intriguing name.

Conor Sheary could be a cheap option too if big names are too pricey.

Who is Sheary really upgrading though?

He is a small offensive forward with mediocre offensive production at best. If we wanted that, we could just use Robertson or Malgin. We'd probably get more out of them.

 

[TMLAM34]

If Washington continues to struggle, Martha is an intriguing name.

Conor Sheary could be a cheap option too if big names are too pricey.

I wanted Mantha pretty bad a couple years ago. He’s got all the tools to be a very good player but for whatever reason he can’t really put it all together.

 

[Cor]

That's fair. Reliable players for sure but I think the Leafs and the amount of cap space they can put in, it's probably a better option to go after more capable players. Bjugstad hasn't put up over 40 points in 5-6 years and only once reached 20 goals almost a decade ago. Laughton never has. Boyd never has. They provide intangibles and probably other good things in lower roles though.

We'll see in a few months how things shape up though because a lot of things can change between now and then, I agree.

Don’t get me wrong. I think someone like Toews is a great fit. I’m an advocate on spending assets on the Center position. Holmgren looks good, and we should find a spot for him next year, but improving the third line would make us such a more dangerous team. Toews on the first line leading a team obviously above his ability now, but on the third line? That’s money.

If we can figure out a way to make the cap work, I’m all for it.

It’s just I don’t think this management team will, nor do I think we necessarily need too

 

[BertCorbeau]

I wanted Mantha pretty bad a couple years ago. He’s got all the tools to be a very good player but for whatever reason he can’t really put it all together.

Well he had a shoulder injury that knocked him out of most of last year .. which is always a concern with a powerforward .. but he has had modest production this year .. 2 years left @ $5.7 mill though.

 

[Ashdown2]

Don’t get me wrong. I think someone like Toews is a great fit. I’m an advocate on spending assets on the Center position. Holmgren looks good, and we should find a spot for him next year, but improving the third line would make us such a more dangerous team. Toews on the first line leading a team obviously above his ability now, but on the third line? That’s money.

If we can figure out a way to make the cap work, I’m all for it.

It’s just I don’t think this management team will, nor do I think we necessarily need too

Hes the last type of player we need.. we already tried the over the hill overpayment for a "vet presence"... we need talent that can generate some semblence of offense
Especially on a rental

 

[Dreakmur]

Hes the last type of player we need.. we already tried the over the hill overpayment for a "vet presence"... we need talent that can generate some semblence of offense
Especially on a rental

Toews is nothing like what we’ve tried to acquire before. He’d be a super-elite 3C…. And just happens to have all the other stuff we desperately need.

 

[Fogelhund]

Hes the last type of player we need.. we already tried the over the hill overpayment for a "vet presence"... we need talent that can generate some semblence of offense
Especially on a rental

Toews is 34, not 38, and still plays pretty well. 13 points so far this season, in 21 games, and 64% in the dot. I'd only have interest, if he would extend below $ 4 mil.

 

[Rob Brown]

What do we think it takes to get Toews, though? Requires heavy retention and all.

 

[SprDaVE]

Friedman in his 32 thoughs:

"7. Toronto’s on an excellent run despite a banged-up defence and goaltending that just recently returned to full health. The Maple Leafs are fourth in the NHL just weeks after we had the entire organization looking for new jobs. They have time to let this play out, but it’s safe to say they will save their best assets for whatever they feel they might need on the blueline. There’s the possibility of adding a left-shot scorer, but that’s not the priority and I think they’d also like to show Matthew Knies there’s a path when he’s ready to leave NCAA Minnesota. "


Seems crazy to me that they still want a defenseman. I assume they think the banged up D will falter or something?

 

[Kiwi]

Friedman in his 32 thoughs:

"7. Toronto’s on an excellent run despite a banged-up defence and goaltending that just recently returned to full health. The Maple Leafs are fourth in the NHL just weeks after we had the entire organization looking for new jobs. They have time to let this play out, but it’s safe to say they will save their best assets for whatever they feel they might need on the blueline. There’s the possibility of adding a left-shot scorer, but that’s not the priority and I think they’d also like to show Matthew Knies there’s a path when he’s ready to leave NCAA Minnesota. "


Seems crazy to me that they still want a defenseman. I assume they think the banged up D will falter or something?

I'm not sure why that's the priority, the 4 guys we have playing top 4 minutes now seem to be showing there ready to shoulder more responsibility and when Rielly and Brodie get back were going to have 6 guys I'd be comfortable playing in our top 4

I think the lack of a cutting edge in the bottom 6 forward group would be my first priority and I don't think it will cost as much to sort out either

 

[1specter]

I'm not sure why that's the priority, the 4 guys we have playing top 4 minutes now seem to be showing there ready to shoulder more responsibility and when Rielly and Brodie get back were going to have 6 guys I'd be comfortable playing in our top 4

I think the lack of a cutting edge in the bottom 6 forward group would be my first priority and I don't think it will cost as much to sort out either

Agreed, we badly need a depth scoring forward, or a sparkplug type player.

 

[Knies iT]

I'm not sure why that's the priority, the 4 guys we have playing top 4 minutes now seem to be showing there ready to shoulder more responsibility and when Rielly and Brodie get back were going to have 6 guys I'd be comfortable playing in our top 4

I think the lack of a cutting edge in the bottom 6 forward group would be my first priority and I don't think it will cost as much to sort out either

Comfortable with them in November is different than comfortable with them come playoff time.

I definitely look at that blueline and think it needs at least one quality top 4 add.

At the same time, do you spend significant assets on a premium position when there is a ton of high-quality top 4 UFA D this summer?

 

[Kiwi]

Agreed, we badly need a depth scoring forward, or a sparkplug type player.

I'm hoping if we add Knies and grab another 2-way player our top 9 (preferably center) will be extremely tough to handle for any opponent

Comfortable with them in November is different than comfortable with them come playoff time.

I definitely look at that blueline and think it needs at least one quality top 4 add.

At the same time, do you spend significant assets on a premium position when there is a ton of high-quality top 4 UFA D this summer?

I just don't see anybody out there that's significantly better than the 6 guys we already have, unfortunately most of the pending UFA'S are puck movers with questionable defensive games

We have that, we need a young Manson type but that's going to be bloody tough to acquire

 

[tmlfan98]

Friedman in his 32 thoughs:

"7. Toronto’s on an excellent run despite a banged-up defence and goaltending that just recently returned to full health. The Maple Leafs are fourth in the NHL just weeks after we had the entire organization looking for new jobs. They have time to let this play out, but it’s safe to say they will save their best assets for whatever they feel they might need on the blueline. There’s the possibility of adding a left-shot scorer, but that’s not the priority and I think they’d also like to show Matthew Knies there’s a path when he’s ready to leave NCAA Minnesota. "


Seems crazy to me that they still want a defenseman. I assume they think the banged up D will falter or something?

The type of defender Chychrun is (high end young top 4 dman with term and a bargain cap hit), I would imagine he is still the Plan A as far as non-rentals go.

If the Leafs were to go the rental route on D, Nick Jensen would be a really good fit (similar type usage to Holl, but is way better) if Washington doesn't turn their season around and sells their upcoming UFAs.

 

[meefer]

Is Dylan Strome worth a look. Last year saw him playing with Patrick Kane and dropping 22 goals and 48 points. Daily Face-off has him playing first line C for the Caps. 3.5 mill cap hit and 5/13/18 points this year. Washington is currently sitting 6th for a wild card spot, with the need of climbing over, amongst others: Pittsburgh, Florida and Rangers to grab the final spot. They are an old team.
Would the Leafs willingly part with Kerfoot, same cap hit, plus ???. Would Strome help the team as a 3C, or a LW with Tavares and Marner?

Kid's from Mississauga, but didn't play for the Soo.

 

[Dekes For Days]

If Washington continues to struggle, Martha is an intriguing name.

Couldn't resist.

 

[TMLAM34]

Well he had a shoulder injury that knocked him out of most of last year .. which is always a concern with a powerforward .. but he has had modest production this year .. 2 years left @ $5.7 mill though.

Depending on the cost, it wouldn’t be a bad addition. He’s got a good shot, he’s big and fast, plays the wing and signed for another year after this season. If they expect anything close to what they paid for him, that’s definitely a no go.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Couldn't resist.

Autocorrect strikes again

 

[Fogelhund]

What do we think it takes to get Toews, though? Requires heavy retention and all.

It requires heavy cap retention, yes... which is accounting and not real dollars. His salary this season is $2.9 million. If it's a trade deadline deal.. they are retaining approx $330k in salary. It's kind of peanuts.

 

[Ashdown2]

Toews is 34, not 38, and still plays pretty well. 13 points so far this season, in 21 games, and 64% in the dot. I'd only have interest, if he would extend below $ 4 mil.

Who cares ... hes barely a 40 point player NOW.. he was on a massive pdo heater to start the year but hes shown for a while that hes trending way down.
U want to pay him 4 mil to be a 25 point player on the 3rd line , and give up high tier assets to get him ?? Good thing ur not the gm