Prospect Info: #129 Arseny Gritsyuk RW

[Guadana]

6 hits today.

Zakhar Bardakov? The former future Devils 4th line center?

Dont worry, we have McDermid.

 

[forceten]

Yeah, we were told he was garbage and fine to toss away for MacUseless

 

[Hisch13r]

Back to back. Throws one on off the rush and it leaks through

 

[Dr Aidonis Bison]

Back to back. Throws one on off the rush and it leaks through

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Goalie wears No.99.. strange

 

[dgibb10]

Yeah, we were told he was garbage and fine to toss away for MacUseless

Have we considered the possibility he indicated to management he wouldn't want to sign in NJ

 

[forceten]

Have we considered the possibility he indicated to management he wouldn't want to sign in NJ

Yes, sort of - there was some talk that he wasn’t interested in the NHL in general. He’d have a huge pipeline to playing here so I doubt he wouldn’t want to be in NJ specifically.

He’s exactly who I’d like to look at as a 4C. I really like his game and throwing him away - heck throwing any C prospect away - seems counterintuitive but whatever

 

[Emperoreddy]

Less scrub talk and more Grits talk

 

[Guadana]

Have we considered the possibility he indicated to management he wouldn't want to sign in NJ

I believe there are two sides of this story. I think he would want to have more clear path to nhl role but I believe Fitz couldn’t give guarantees so I believe both sides were not very happy.
Anyway now we don’t have better center prospect than other what we have and may be now we could find some role for him that would interest him to try.
But bad trade was made so move on.

 

[My3Sons]

Less scrub talk and more Grits talk

One of thr lawyers in town this week had shrimp and grits for dinner when we met about a case.

 

[NjdevilfanJim]

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Yes, sort of - there was some talk that he wasn’t interested in the NHL in general. He’d have a huge pipeline to playing here so I doubt he wouldn’t want to be in NJ specifically.

He’s exactly who I’d like to look at as a 4C. I really like his game and throwing him away - heck throwing any C prospect away - seems counterintuitive but whatever

Agree was a bad move but at the time belief was he was not coming to N/A nonetheless stupid move especially if he does come over.

 

[Hisch13r]

Insert DJ Khaled meme. Also tacked on a secondary earlier

 

[Bone Density]

 

[Clam Jensen]

Sucks for him personally but fortunately of no consequence to the big club. Cannot wait for him to hopefully come over next year.

 

[My3Sons]

Sucks for him personally but fortunately of no consequence to the big club. Cannot wait for him to hopefully come over next year.

Hopefully not anything significant. He was pretty gimpy going down the tunnel but it could be anything lower body related.

 

[Devils731]

No news is good news on this front.

 

[RSeen]

No news is good news on this front.

Would be a good addition if he can come in and be an effective 2nd line winger next season. Not sure what his skating ability or to what degree he plays a physical game, but could look good next to Jack.

 

[Guadana]

No news is good news on this front.

I spoke to Arseni Gritsyuk’s agent, Shumi Babaev, about if the plan was still for him to come to the #NJDevils after his contract with SKA expires in May:

“Yes, of course.”
19:25


First and foremost, he’s going to provide an immediate offensive boost without much care for defense. He isn’t overwhelmingly bad in that area, but his bread and butter has been, is, and will always be offense.
He is a strong skater who is faster and quicker than his KHL peers.

What is most impressive to me is his edge work. He is able to switch directions and change momentum at the drop of a hat, being able to do 180s to generate chances:

His shot is his best asset, bar none. He has a deceptive release, picks his spots well, and is quick-triggered.

In particular, he is a threat to shoot from seemingly innocuous areas of the ice while on the rush

His one-timer is electric, too, and should provide an immediate upgrade to the second PP unit. He generates immense power without foreshadowing his shot, something that many of the best PP one-time threats in the NHL do

He shoots in volumes, too, averaging over 3.5 shots per game in the last two seasons.

His passing is nothing to write home about, but he is able to playmake simply because he understands goalies are hyper-aware of his shot.

This opens up lanes and opportunities for his teammates that otherwise wouldn’t have been there.

He has the smarts to put himself in positions to succeed, sliding into areas that are sans-coverage and generating high-danger opportunities for himself.

His stickhandling is alright, but he prefers a simpler game that revolves around shooting and the opportunities that arise from it.

Still, he has shown flashes of stickhandling abilities while on the rush that he very occasionally brings out

He’s strong on the puck, at a stocky 6’0, 200ish pounds. He’s tough to move away from being in front of the net, and though he isn’t particularly physical, is gritty enough to be a plus on board battles.

He has the tools to be a complementary winger for a second-line playdriver (Hischier) and the transitional chops to be a potential third-line playdriver, something the Devils desperately need.

The “problem” is that he doesn’t have much room to grow his game.

For all intents and purposes, the player that the Devils are getting next year won’t change much over the years in terms of development. Still, he’s a polished 23-year-old who will contribute meaningfully on an ELC contract, something every contender has on their roster.

If you want to go even a step further into Gritsyuk, check out my article from this morning. I wrote 2,000 words on the player, his toolkit, and what to expect from him once he makes the jump.

I think in an ideal world I’d have him as a third-liner, but in this case I’d prefer he’s with Nico — I think his playstyle meshes better with Nico’s than Jack’s.

 

[Clam Jensen]

I spoke to Arseni Gritsyuk’s agent, Shumi Babaev, about if the plan was still for him to come to the #NJDevils after his contract with SKA expires in May:

“Yes, of course.”
19:25


First and foremost, he’s going to provide an immediate offensive boost without much care for defense. He isn’t overwhelmingly bad in that area, but his bread and butter has been, is, and will always be offense.
He is a strong skater who is faster and quicker than his KHL peers.

What is most impressive to me is his edge work. He is able to switch directions and change momentum at the drop of a hat, being able to do 180s to generate chances:

His shot is his best asset, bar none. He has a deceptive release, picks his spots well, and is quick-triggered.

In particular, he is a threat to shoot from seemingly innocuous areas of the ice while on the rush

His one-timer is electric, too, and should provide an immediate upgrade to the second PP unit. He generates immense power without foreshadowing his shot, something that many of the best PP one-time threats in the NHL do

He shoots in volumes, too, averaging over 3.5 shots per game in the last two seasons.

His passing is nothing to write home about, but he is able to playmake simply because he understands goalies are hyper-aware of his shot.

This opens up lanes and opportunities for his teammates that otherwise wouldn’t have been there.

He has the smarts to put himself in positions to succeed, sliding into areas that are sans-coverage and generating high-danger opportunities for himself.

His stickhandling is alright, but he prefers a simpler game that revolves around shooting and the opportunities that arise from it.

Still, he has shown flashes of stickhandling abilities while on the rush that he very occasionally brings out

He’s strong on the puck, at a stocky 6’0, 200ish pounds. He’s tough to move away from being in front of the net, and though he isn’t particularly physical, is gritty enough to be a plus on board battles.

He has the tools to be a complementary winger for a second-line playdriver (Hischier) and the transitional chops to be a potential third-line playdriver, something the Devils desperately need.

The “problem” is that he doesn’t have much room to grow his game.

For all intents and purposes, the player that the Devils are getting next year won’t change much over the years in terms of development. Still, he’s a polished 23-year-old who will contribute meaningfully on an ELC contract, something every contender has on their roster.

If you want to go even a step further into Gritsyuk, check out my article from this morning. I wrote 2,000 words on the player, his toolkit, and what to expect from him once he makes the jump.

I think in an ideal world I’d have him as a third-liner, but in this case I’d prefer he’s with Nico — I think his playstyle meshes better with Nico’s than Jack’s.

It’ll be nice to have a Russian presence with him, eventually Silayev, and hopefully big Mike.

 

[Devils731]

Still, he’s a polished 23-year-old who will contribute meaningfully on an ELC contract, something every contender has on their roster.

I don’t think Grits will be on an ELC next year, if his KHL contract ending in times allows it.

I think he will sign this offseason to burn the year, even though he plays no games, and he plays next year on a 2 year contract signed at RFA value.

 

[Guadana]

It’ll be nice to have a Russian presence with him, eventually Silayev, and hopefully big Mike.

Someone could like it or not - you need Russian to win SC.

I don’t think Grits will be on an ELC next year, if his KHL contract ending in times allows it.

I think he will sign this offseason to burn the year, even though he plays no games, and he plays next year on a 2 year contract signed at RFA value.

Thats not my word. Im not waiting for ELC too. May be its even better to have on a two years deal to play and watch what he can do and after sign long term or trade for something with a year of RFA after.

Anyway cap will be higher, one way or another - it will be better to have him on the roster. We def-ly need more fire power from top-9.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

I spoke to Arseni Gritsyuk’s agent, Shumi Babaev, about if the plan was still for him to come to the #NJDevils after his contract with SKA expires in May:

“Yes, of course.”
19:25


First and foremost, he’s going to provide an immediate offensive boost without much care for defense. He isn’t overwhelmingly bad in that area, but his bread and butter has been, is, and will always be offense.
He is a strong skater who is faster and quicker than his KHL peers.

What is most impressive to me is his edge work. He is able to switch directions and change momentum at the drop of a hat, being able to do 180s to generate chances:

His shot is his best asset, bar none. He has a deceptive release, picks his spots well, and is quick-triggered.

In particular, he is a threat to shoot from seemingly innocuous areas of the ice while on the rush

His one-timer is electric, too, and should provide an immediate upgrade to the second PP unit. He generates immense power without foreshadowing his shot, something that many of the best PP one-time threats in the NHL do

He shoots in volumes, too, averaging over 3.5 shots per game in the last two seasons.

His passing is nothing to write home about, but he is able to playmake simply because he understands goalies are hyper-aware of his shot.

This opens up lanes and opportunities for his teammates that otherwise wouldn’t have been there.

He has the smarts to put himself in positions to succeed, sliding into areas that are sans-coverage and generating high-danger opportunities for himself.

His stickhandling is alright, but he prefers a simpler game that revolves around shooting and the opportunities that arise from it.

Still, he has shown flashes of stickhandling abilities while on the rush that he very occasionally brings out

He’s strong on the puck, at a stocky 6’0, 200ish pounds. He’s tough to move away from being in front of the net, and though he isn’t particularly physical, is gritty enough to be a plus on board battles.

He has the tools to be a complementary winger for a second-line playdriver (Hischier) and the transitional chops to be a potential third-line playdriver, something the Devils desperately need.

The “problem” is that he doesn’t have much room to grow his game.

For all intents and purposes, the player that the Devils are getting next year won’t change much over the years in terms of development. Still, he’s a polished 23-year-old who will contribute meaningfully on an ELC contract, something every contender has on their roster.

If you want to go even a step further into Gritsyuk, check out my article from this morning. I wrote 2,000 words on the player, his toolkit, and what to expect from him once he makes the jump.

I think in an ideal world I’d have him as a third-liner, but in this case I’d prefer he’s with Nico — I think his playstyle meshes better with Nico’s than Jack’s.

How do you think his skating, shooting, and two way play compares with Sharangovich?

 

[Guadana]

How do you think his skating, shooting, and two way play compares with Sharangovich?

Shooting is more versatile, Gritsyuk needs less space. I think Yegor has better release when he is on his best.
Gritsyuk is better skater, faster skater, especially from the start. Better skater with the puck.
I like Gritsyuk on the boards more, I dont know how Yegor is playing on the boards now but he was worser on boards in his devils days than what Gritsyuk is doing now.
Gritsyuk is better with the puck on his stick under pressure.
I think Sharangovich is better positionally without the puck in D zone and in neutral zone.

 

[My3Sons]

I think in an ideal world I’d have him as a third-liner, but in this case I’d prefer he’s with Nico —

So on the third line then

 

[Guadana]

So on the third line then

Timo is playing with third liners from time to time so it would be quite okay third line.