Trades and Free Agency - 2022-23 Season Edition

[geo25]

At this point, with the stick boy in charge it would most likely be putting lipstick on a pig. Hoping they have a drop dead date for deciding whether to extend Dubas or not and it is not at the end of the season/playoffs.

I mean what else is there for them to see ??

AGREED! We need new & better management & coaching first before making more moves that may actually hurt us both now & in the future.

In his last interview Dubas says he wants to see what he has before making a move.
He has had more than enough time to fugure out what he has. He built this team FFS.
How is sitting out robertson going to see what he is capable of. You cant play the kid two games then sit him for 5 and expect him to succeed. If you arent willing to let him play, make mistakes like everyone else then trade him for another need.

Trade for Kane
Drop willy to run third line that will produce offense if the other lines dry up in the playoffs.

You cant win in the playoffs with any of these players on the third line and expect
Offense
Kerfoot engvall kampf janrok zar malgin
Holmberg simmonds clifford

Bunting matthews kane
Robertson tavares marner
Knies xxx willy
4th line zar kampf janrok
Extras

Reilly brodie
Gio lilly
Benn xxx


Use 1st, prospects from marlies, kerfoot engval holl sandin to bring in
Kane
3rd line centre
4/5 dman with size and bite

A better idea......GET RID OF DUBAS, then have his replacement decide.

 

[hamzarocks]

Anyone here seen the Robertson for Heniola rumor/speculation thread on the main boards?

Don't really want heinola. I'd deal Robertson but I'd add a 1st to get a NHL proven quality player

 

[The Podium]

Anyone here seen the Robertson for Heniola rumor/speculation thread on the main boards?

Don't really want heinola. I'd deal Robertson but I'd add a 1st to get a NHL proven quality player

This?



Seems like just a trade proposal by Seravalli. The only way it makes sense is if Sandin is subsequently traded for a young scoring forward and essentially we shuffle the deck chairs with similar personnel with different names. Would be a lateral gamble that only makes sense if you believe the grass is greener on the other side. With the way Sandin and Nicky Bobby haven’t locked down positions, it may, in fact, be greener.

 

[horner]

In his last interview Dubas says he wants to see what he has before making a move.
He has had more than enough time to fugure out what he has. He built this team FFS.
How is sitting out robertson going to see what he is capable of. You cant play the kid two games then sit him for 5 and expect him to succeed. If you arent willing to let him play, make mistakes like everyone else then trade him for another need.

Trade for Kane
Drop willy to run third line that will produce offense if the other lines dry up in the playoffs.

You cant win in the playoffs with any of these players on the third line and expect
Offense
Kerfoot engvall kampf janrok zar malgin
Holmberg simmonds clifford

Bunting matthews kane
Robertson tavares marner
Knies xxx willy
4th line zar kampf janrok
Extras

Reilly brodie
Gio lilly
Benn xxx


Use 1st, prospects from marlies, kerfoot engval holl sandin to bring in
Kane
3rd line centre
4/5 dman with size and

In his last interview Dubas says he wants to see what he has before making a move.
He has had more than enough time to fugure out what he has. He built this team FFS.
How is sitting out robertson going to see what he is capable of. You cant play the kid two games then sit him for 5 and expect him to succeed. If you arent willing to let him play, make mistakes like everyone else then trade him for another need.

Trade for Kane
Drop willy to run third line that will produce offense if the other lines dry up in the playoffs.

You cant win in the playoffs with any of these players on the third line and expect
Offense
Kerfoot engvall kampf janrok zar malgin
Holmberg simmonds clifford

Bunting matthews kane
Robertson tavares marner
Knies xxx willy
4th line zar kampf janrok
Extras

Reilly brodie
Gio lilly
Benn xxx


Use 1st, prospects from marlies, kerfoot engval holl sandin to bring in
Kane
3rd line centre
4/5 dman with size and bite

This yrs draft is supposed to be on of the best in yrs. No to trading our first on a rental
We missed out on the 2003 draft ( the best draft ever ) we caould have had Corey Perry.
We need to find out if our Core can do it.
If not we need to make major changes in the summer.

We need to trade kerfoot Engvall

 

[Americanadian]

Anyone here seen the Robertson for Heniola rumor/speculation thread on the main boards?

Don't really want heinola. I'd deal Robertson but I'd add a 1st to get a NHL proven quality player

If Heinola shot right I would say yes in a heartbeat - don't even care that Heinola is the kind of defender the Leafs have an abundance of. With Heinola shooting left and essentially being a worse Sandin, on a roster that has 5 LHD in their top 6, it doesn't make sense at all. If LA calls and offers up Spence for Robertson I'd consider it.

 

[The Podium]

If Heinola shot right I would say yes in a heartbeat - don't even care that Heinola is the kind of defender the Leafs have an abundance of. With Heinola shooting left and essentially being a worse Sandin, on a roster that has 5 LHD in their top 6, it doesn't make sense at all. If LA calls and offers up Spence for Robertson I'd consider it.

Heinola is essentially a better skating version of Sandin. Very similar players who rely on IQ more than athleticism. It wouldn’t make sense to have both, so in the case where you have a deal for Heinola you may want to deal Sandin for help elsewhere.

 

[Americanadian]

Heinola is essentially a better skating version of Sandin. Very similar players who rely on IQ more than athleticism. It wouldn’t make sense to have both, so in the case where you have a deal for Heinola you may want to deal Sandin for help elsewhere.

I would love to see Dubas do that but two trades at this point in the season might be asking a lot. Even a 3 way deal where the Leafs get Spence, LAK - Heinola and WPG get Robertson would make sense.

 

[therealkoho]

Would take him in a heartbeat

Just wondering why?

 

[therealkoho]

LEAFS - WILD
Jacob Middleton & Jordan Greenway
for
Rasmus Sandin, Nick Robertson, Alex Kerfoot & 2024 2nd

LEAFS - PREDATORS
Tanner Jeannot
for
Topi Niemela, Pierre Engvall & 1st

Greenway - Matthews - Marner
Knies - - - Tavares - - - Nylander
Jeannot - - Jarnkrok - - Bunting
AstonReese - Kampf - Malgin

Rielly - - Liljegren
Middleton - Brodie
Giordano - Holl/Benn

Remember when Robertson was the fantasy 2LW before he played an NHL game

Knies has even been mentioned as the 1 and 2LW by a lot of those same fantasists.

I really want it to work out, more so than you might be able to tell, but just maybe let's wait and see how he handles even the smell of an NHL locker room before making him regular in the line-up.

Jeannot would be an excellent get but only addresses a part of Leafs needs. He just doesn't create or contribute enough offense.

 

[geo25]

Remember when Robertson was the fantasy 2LW before he played an NHL game

Knies has even been mentioned as the 1 and 2LW by a lot of those same fantasists.

I really want it to work out, more so than you might be able to tell, but just maybe let's wait and see how he handles even the smell of an NHL locker room before making him regular in the line-up.

Jeannot would be an excellent get but only addresses a part of Leafs needs. He just doesn't create or contribute enough offense.

Would never trade our 1st nor Knies....that would haunt us for years...

 

[aingefan]

Trade Sandin in a deal for a bonafide top 4 with term if he still has value to be the main piece in a deal like that

Or a 3C with some upside to be a 2c with the right wingers.

 

[LeafChief]

Is the Myers speculation only coming from that Garrioch article or has it come from somewhere legitimate?

 

[Pinto]

Is the Myers speculation only coming from that Garrioch article or has it come from somewhere legitimate?

Just Garrioch as far as I’ve seen.

 

[LeafChief]

Just Garrioch as far as I’ve seen.

Thanks.

Ottawa's version of Steve Simmons doesn't really move the needle for me. Hoping to see some moves soon though.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Need the Blues to go back to shitting the bed again so they’re more inclined to sell. O’Reilly would be perfect here. Definitely expensive in a trade but worth it.

 

[Torontonian]

Anyone here seen the Robertson for Heniola rumor/speculation thread on the main boards?

Don't really want heinola. I'd deal Robertson but I'd add a 1st to get a NHL proven quality player

Perfectly fine with trading Robertson if its for a established NHL player with term left on his contract. Has to be a either a top 6 forward or top 4 d-man.

Not so interested in trading him for a player that is like him, about to break into the NHL/on the cusp of doing it.

 

[ULF_55]

Perfectly fine with trading Robertson if its for a established NHL player with term left on his contract. Has to be a either a top 6 forward or top 4 d-man.

Not so interested in trading him for a player that is like him, about to break into the NHL/on the cusp of doing it.

I suppose you mean as part of a package for an establish top 6 / top4 player with term?

Robertson really needs to be playing against opposition players in some league.

 

[Torontonian]

I suppose you mean as part of a package for an establish top 6 / top4 player with term?

Robertson really needs to be playing against opposition players in some league.

Yes, as part of a package for one top 4 dman or top 6f with term, can't afford to trade 1sts/our top prospects for players that are UFA.

It's okay to trade 1sts/top prospects if you are getting players back that will be here for the next 3/4 years IMO.

 

[LeafSteel]

Need the Blues to go back to shitting the bed again so they’re more inclined to sell. O’Reilly would be perfect here. Definitely expensive in a trade but worth it.

I spent years yearning for ROR on this team, but I feel this iteration of ROR would suspiciously be Foligno V2.0: over-priced and paying for a name for what they've done in the past, not what they can realistically do now.

A trade for Myers as our "big addition" on Defence would be completely underwhelming and just another band-aid move that never addresses and fills a long-term need. Waste of assets and cap space that could be better used than on a soon to be 33 year old slow Dman.

 

[blue stick]

 

[Stephen]

If we trade Robertson for another prospect, I don't think Ville Heinola does it for me. Let's get someone who wouldn't be in the waterbug class and have a different look to them. We can't absorb another small LHD.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

I spent years yearning for ROR on this team, but I feel this iteration of ROR would suspiciously be Foligno V2.0: over-priced and paying for a name for what they've done in the past, not what they can realistically do now.

That's definitely a big concern. Two factors I think we should consider when comparing Foligno and O'Reilly is 1) O'Reilly has won a Stanley Cup, unlike Foligno so he knows what it takes, and 2) O'Reilly plays centre, a more important position and an apparent need on this team given how many players Keefe has tried at 3C this season.

 

[therealkoho]

Thanks.

Ottawa's version of Steve Simmons doesn't really move the needle for me. Hoping to see some moves soon though.

don't be mean to Boo-boo he's a sensitive lad

 

[therealkoho]

I suppose you mean as part of a package for an establish top 6 / top4 player with term?

Robertson really needs to be playing against opposition players in some league.

ATM Robertson needs to be stapled to JT's LW and be allowed to sink or swim, if he swims great for the Leafs, if he sinks he's worth the same as he is currently, which is as a project player.

Judging by what everyone including Keefe saw in the pre-season he earned a spot, he played with lot's of energy, didn't take shifts off, didn't look out of place and put the puck into the net. The Leafs need more goals from the forwards group and the guys Sheldon is sticking with aren't doing it, not Engvall, not Jarnkrok, not Kerfoot, although you want to keep Kerfoot in because of his versatility the line-up wouldn't suffer if you sat Engvall

Bunts - Matty - Will
Robbie - JT - MM
Kerfoot - Kampf - Simmons
ZAR - Holmberg - Jarnkrok/Malgin

and Bob's yer uncle

 

[Magic Man]

The thing about ROR or Horvat even though they are local kids who probably wouldn't mind playing for the Leafs. They probably are not getting re-signed to play 3C. Management would have to convince them on a top-6 spot being theirs the following season, but even if they assure them, it is a risk they push them back to the middle on line #3.