Why does everyone want a pick AND a player for Cally? Why not just really good picks instead? Everywhere I read, Fast is ready to play up here. Part ways with Cally for a 1st and 2nd, maybe even two 1st's, and use the talent we already own?
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Clown Fiesta
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Would you invite me?
I'm fairly confident that the return will be better than most of what is posted here. It may not be a huge upgrade to our NHL roster this season, hopefully a player with higher offensive skills than Callahan at the expense of defense perhaps. I think we'll get solid futures with said player though.
Let's not forget that Gaustad got a first.
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Yeah, ok. You're wrong. Not going to argue about it.
Because there's no way in holy hell that the islanders would give us Vanek AND a pick for Callahan. They wouldn't give us Vanek for Callahan straight up. They gave up Moulson, plus a 1st and 2nd to get Vanek. So unless you are prepared to give up Callahan plus 1st and 2nd round picks for Vanek, it isn't happening, and probably not even then because the islanders aren't going to make that kind of deal with a rival.
I think your perception of Cally may be skewed by how well he plays against the Flyers. If he played every game like that he'd be a Hall of Famer.
aufheben
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God forbid a young man tries to make as much money as he can in his line of work. I'm sure all of us on HF would just leave millions of dollars on the table to gain the respect of strangers.
Because draft picks are a crap shoot. Getting something established back is important so you don't lose a player for what ultimately amounts to nothing. A package like Stewart and a pick would give you the best of both worlds. A replacement for Pouliot and it opens up a slot for a guy like Fast, Lindberg or Miller to get NHL time.
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Why not? I think it's purely depends on how your team's salary structure is built. If there are a few manageable contracts of skilled forwards slotted into top 6 role than the team can afford carrying higher $$ for grit, ton of intangibles and occasional goal (among other qualities). I think for the organization the problem is not AAV but the length of the contract.
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You know I would.
No we definitely won't get him for what he is worth to the team and especially to us as fans, but I think we should at least target a good pick or a young prospect with top 6 potential. This is a new team now, we get 30 shots a game like it's nothing. Time to add some young players who can benefit from this.
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Completely agree. Makes the other teams less likely to give up assets now since there a going to be options in July.
It won't be an immediate upgrade at all, in my opinion. I think you're talking about an NHL roster player not as good as Callahan and some futures.
aufheben
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Buffalo is the only other team I could see Cally on. They have the assets and cap space to acquire him, and they're gonna need veteran leadership on that team soon, but he's still young enough to grow with them. And obviously, he's from Rochester.
I see no scenario where it benefits Buffalo to give up assets. Why wouldn't they just wait and sign him in July?
They don't need him before the deadline so why would they give up assets? Teams like LA, STL, etc are gearing up for a playoff run. Those are the teams we should concentrate on. Callahan for Toffoli make too much sense. I know people are saying he is redundant because they have Brown, but so is Callahan on STL (Backes, Oshie).
I thought the Sabres might want to get out ahead of the pack and not have to wait until the bidding war in July, but it looks less likely now. Only chance is if they somehow unload a ton of assets at the deadline and are in jeopardy of falling below the cap floor.
Clown Fiesta
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I'm thinking a similar player who might be a bit better offensively but not as well rounded.
aufheben
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Craig Custance wrote a good article on Callahan. He spoke to an agent. Callahan will get the seven years in the summer. The agent told Custance the Rangers will pay strangers and ask family to take less. They see the Rangers paying Richards $60M in free agency and the trade for Nash with his salary. Why should they take less? The cost of living in the city is another factor. One player doesn't want to set a trend of taking less to remain in NY. You have to wonder if Sather's stance on the bridge contract has not come back to bite him. That's the culture created by Slats.
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It makes no sense for the Sabres to deal assets for an unsigned Callahan. They're organizational depth is weak on the wings sans Armia, and their top picks are all going to be high in rounds. Unless they move out D prospects, which could appeal to the Rangers. Even then, I don't think it makes any sense for a new GM to come in and "buy" when he has no business doing so. Wait until July.
Ian
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If Buffalo could guarantee he'd be signed immediately after a trade was processed, I don't see why not. Gives them much more of a window if they're that interested in adding him.
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