Rumor: Trade Thread XVI: Callahan looking for $6.85M+ AAV?

[Thirty One]

The agent told Custance the Rangers will pay strangers and ask family to take less.

Wahhh.

When the Rangers signed Richards he had 216 points in his last 208 games and filled their biggest need. Callahan is redundant.

 

[gary laser eyes]

The Rangers would happily pay Callahan $40+ million if he was actually worth it...

I hate when agents are interviewed/quoted. They are paid to be biased.

 

[Vidic15*]

Craig Custance wrote a good article on Callahan. He spoke to an agent. Callahan will get the seven years in the summer. The agent told Custance the Rangers will pay strangers and ask family to take less. They see the Rangers paying Richards $60M in free agency and the trade for Nash with his salary. Why should they take less? The cost of living in the city is another factor. One player doesn't want to set a trend of taking less to remain in NY. You have to wonder if Sather's stance on the bridge contract has not come back to bite him. That's the culture created by Slats.

I like the bridge contracts. Look at Stepan's situation, for instance. He had a great year last year. He was a RFA that wanted a longer term, bigger money contract based off that year. We thought we finally saw Stepan break out as a 1C. We were wrong. The contract he got pays him accordingly.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Craig Custance wrote a good article on Callahan. He spoke to an agent. Callahan will get the seven years in the summer. The agent told Custance the Rangers will pay strangers and ask family to take less. They see the Rangers paying Richards $60M in free agency and the trade for Nash with his salary. Why should they take less? The cost of living in the city is another factor. One player doesn't want to set a trend of taking less to remain in NY. You have to wonder if Sather's stance on the bridge contract has not come back to bite him. That's the culture created by Slats.

Don't really blame Callahan at all for feeling this way, if it is indeed the case.

Though hopefully at the end of the day, by drawing a hard line here, management is showing that they ultimately can't break out the checkbook for everyone. And that if you want to get paid and remain a member of the NYR you may need to compromise in some way.

Now watch they turn around and give Stastny 7.5 x 7...that'll show 'em...

 

[Slick Rick 61]

Craig Custance wrote a good article on Callahan. He spoke to an agent. Callahan will get the seven years in the summer. The agent told Custance the Rangers will pay strangers and ask family to take less. They see the Rangers paying Richards $60M in free agency and the trade for Nash with his salary. Why should they take less? The cost of living in the city is another factor. One player doesn't want to set a trend of taking less to remain in NY. You have to wonder if Sather's stance on the bridge contract has not come back to bite him. That's the culture created by Slats.

Some of the second contracts are ridiculous. He locked Staal in at a great rate (though those negotiations were admittedly troubling) and he got McDonagh done on one of the best contracts in the NHL. So in that sense, I can't blame Sather completely. He's clearly open to long-term deals if the player deserves it.

The Callahan's and Dubinsky's don't warrnat the RFA deals some of these guys (mostly top players) receive. The only reason Callahan even got 3 years was his arbitration eligibility. If (and of course I'm speculating) players/agents are upset about that philosophy, too bad.

Callahan is looking out for his long-term security. I get that. But this is one the Rangers need to avoid.

 

[Clown Fiesta]

Buffalo kind of screwed us, sure just because they're willing to pay him what he wants doesn't mean another team won't. It's just a pretty appealing destination for him and hurts his trade value if the other teams think he'll go there. Isn't that tampering?

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

If Buffalo could guarantee he'd be signed immediately after a trade was processed, I don't see why not. Gives them much more of a window if they're that interested in adding him.

Maybe.

But even still, Buffalo is clearly rebuilding. They are going to hold onto their higher end younger players. It will be really tough to extract some prime assets.

Even as a rental, its entirely possible a contender would be much more willing to part with younger players with higher upsides.

 

[Tawnos]

Craig Custance wrote a good article on Callahan. He spoke to an agent. Callahan will get the seven years in the summer. The agent told Custance the Rangers will pay strangers and ask family to take less. They see the Rangers paying Richards $60M in free agency and the trade for Nash with his salary. Why should they take less? The cost of living in the city is another factor. One player doesn't want to set a trend of taking less to remain in NY. You have to wonder if Sather's stance on the bridge contract has not come back to bite him. That's the culture created by Slats.

He shouldn't... but it's worth mentioning that Nash and Richards came with a lot more offense than Callahan does. Sather doesn't seem to like bringing in 2nd line players. Maybe he should.

Points = dollars. It's true all over the place. Nothing where I work would be possible without the job I do, but the people in sales will always get paid.

 

[RangerBoy]

The agent said "its not acceptable" the Rangers practice of paying for outside players and then trying to save money on their own players. Is Bartlett the source of that quote? He comminicated with Custance on Sunday. Custance wrote Newport is more than content taking Girardi to free agency this summer. He has good sources within Newport.

 

[Ian]

What a joke that statement is.

So an agent who is having a harder time making a big commission off a client is now suggesting the Rangers aren't "rewarding" family?

Richards has been a bust here, but find me a player that had similar stats for the Rangers prior to a contract extension and was hard balled. I'd be happy to wait.

Only person you might be able to claim is Jagr, but clearly he's had his own quirks beyond just wanting to be part of the "family."

 

[Vidic15*]

The agent said "its not acceptable" the Rangers practice of paying for outside players and then trying to save money on their own players. Is Bartlett the source of that quote? He comminicated with Custance on Sunday. Custance wrote Newport is more than content taking Girardi to free agency this summer. He has good sources within Newport.

Does anybody else get the feeling these contract talks have been contentious?

 

[Tawnos]

The agent said "its not acceptable" the Rangers practice of paying for outside players and then trying to save money on their own players. Is Bartlett the source of that quote? He comminicated with Custance on Sunday. Custance wrote Newport is more than content taking Girardi to free agency this summer. He has good sources within Newport.

Bartlett will gladly take the commission if Vanek signs a big deal with the Rangers.

 

[Thirty One]

Buffalo kind of screwed us, sure just because they're willing to pay him what he wants doesn't mean another team won't. It's just a pretty appealing destination for him and hurts his trade value if the other teams think he'll go there. Isn't that tampering?

It's not tampering, no. Unless a Buffalo source is on record saying they'll offer Callahan that.

 

[Beer League Sniper]

Craig Custance wrote a good article on Callahan. He spoke to an agent. Callahan will get the seven years in the summer. The agent told Custance the Rangers will pay strangers and ask family to take less. They see the Rangers paying Richards $60M in free agency and the trade for Nash with his salary. Why should they take less? The cost of living in the city is another factor. One player doesn't want to set a trend of taking less to remain in NY. You have to wonder if Sather's stance on the bridge contract has not come back to bite him. That's the culture created by Slats.

Nice to get a look inside the heads of player agents. So basically Callahan has Bartlett whispering these kinds of things in his ears. Just trade him and get it over with. I don't begrudge Callahan trying to milk every penny he can out of his next contract, but the fact of the matter is that he wants us to preemptively match what his agent "thinks" he can get from another team both in salary and term in UFA. He can go pound sand. Get him out of here.

 

[Clown Fiesta]

Could easily counter it by saying Callahan is more willing to take money from strangers than his family.

Which is just as dumb of a statement, agents are in it to maximize their commission so we all know who he's really looking after.

 

[Slick Rick 61]

Sure, Bartlett. Then the Rangers have minimal cap space to go outside the organization to address their needs. Keeping the price down of controllable players, so as to preserve an efficient allocation of cap dollars? Not overpaying for a UFA to be? Maximizing the player's value. The team that signs him will be hit with the law of diminishing returns. What a novel concept. It's the same in baseball. Get over it.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

The agent said "its not acceptable" the Rangers practice of paying for outside players and then trying to save money on their own players. Is Bartlett the source of that quote? He comminicated with Custance on Sunday. Custance wrote Newport is more than content taking Girardi to free agency this summer. He has good sources within Newport.

Bleh, I see the point.

But the Rangers JUST paid Lundqvist. That guy is a future hall of famer. The guys they have brought in via free agency/trades have better resumes than Callahan -- he needs to look in the mirror.

 

[gary laser eyes]

It's all posturing.

 

[Ian]

Maybe.

But even still, Buffalo is clearly rebuilding. They are going to hold onto their higher end younger players. It will be really tough to extract some prime assets.

Even as a rental, its entirely possible a contender would be much more willing to part with younger players with higher upsides.

Agreed with you 100%, but given the heavy market of wingers available (many of whom might have a bigger offensive impact i.e. Vanek or Cammi), it'll be much harder.

I think the Rangers' play should be pitching Callahan's leadership and captain-ship to clubs like Buffalo, Florida and Calgary, who all need a rudder. I don't know if a team looking for a true secondary scorer (STL?) would be intrigued as much by him.

It wouldn't be the most immediately interesting trade, but I'd take a handful of picks for Cally from a bad team, a la what NYR gave up for Clowe last year.

BUF '14 2nd and 5th round picks, conditional '15 3rd (moves to 5th if they don't resign him)?

 

[Tawnos]

MTL Rapahel Diaz to VAN for Dale Weise.

I guess Tortorella really just doesn't like Dale.

 

[Leetch3]

Buffalo kind of screwed us, sure just because they're willing to pay him what he wants doesn't mean another team won't. It's just a pretty appealing destination for him and hurts his trade value if the other teams think he'll go there. Isn't that tampering?

not tampering if rangers gave them permission to talk

 

[Clown Fiesta]

It's not tampering, no. Unless a Buffalo source is on record saying they'll offer Callahan that.

That's kind of what I thought and I didn't know the actual source. That and I'm not sure what's allowed once permission is given for agents to talk to teams.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

It's all posturing.

Its getting beyond that. Its starting to get ugly.

Whenever the conversation devolves into "Well you paid all these guys, so you should pay my guy too," you're in trouble.

 

[Leetch3]

and we aren't going 7 years, but the rangers already offer him $6 mil/year, how is that not paying family? cause everyone knows that if callahan was on another team and we were basing it on his play this year and not the emotions of him being homegrown and the captain he wouldn't be getting offered even $3 mil. so i think sather is taking care of 'family' just fine here...sather is being saved from himself if cally turns down the ridiculous 5 year, $30 mil offer

 

[Bardof425*]

Craig Custance wrote a good article on Callahan. He spoke to an agent. Callahan will get the seven years in the summer. The agent told Custance the Rangers will pay strangers and ask family to take less. They see the Rangers paying Richards $60M in free agency and the trade for Nash with his salary. Why should they take less? The cost of living in the city is another factor. One player doesn't want to set a trend of taking less to remain in NY. You have to wonder if Sather's stance on the bridge contract has not come back to bite him. That's the culture created by Slats.

This cost of living thing is overblown. What about the opportunities to make millions of dollars on Madison Avenue if you're a popular Ranger? NY is a big place and the cost of living varies depending on the choice the player makes.