Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals PART XXXXX

[bert]

At some point you make a deal from a position of strength to fill a weakness, we can't assume we'll always have a top 6 injured long term ever year...

I don't know what other way we're going to stumble across to get a good D, it seems like we've been searching for one since Chara left the team...

A competent GM could find a D man. Or actually have a stacked team. If Bedard is on an ELC then it shouldnt be hard. Injuries happen for every team.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

We could really use another good defensive forward. Hes young and still has offensive upside. See a definite fit for us and at “minimal cost”.

Could suit the third line and motte can move down

 

[bert]

We could really use another good defensive forward. Hes young and still has offensive upside. See a definite fit for us and at “minimal cost”.

Yeah the sens depth is terrible, wonder what it would take.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

A competent GM could find a D man. Or actually have a stacked team. If Bedard is on an ELC then it shouldnt be hard. Injuries happen for every team.

I was thinking a top d man. I agree it should not be hard to find a competent #4. Or at least a better one. Teams that are doing better than us don’t have super start #4 d men.

 

[bert]

Yes I would, can't wait for someone to develop with our current core

Why not? Stutzle and Sanderson are 20 the only player over 25 that is part of the core i Giroux.

 

[NB613]

Could suit the third line and motte can move down

Exactly. And in a pinch he could help in top 6 better than a “brassard / joseph”. Also has benefit of being an RFA in down year, and could be with org long-term.

Yeah the sens depth is terrible, wonder what it would take.

Feel like a 2nd plus one of Joseph/Watson/Kelly/Holden. Or straight swap for one of JBD or Thomson

 

[bert]

Exactly. And in a pinch he could help in top 6 better than a “brassard / joseph”. Also has benefit of being an RFA in down year, and could be with org long-term.


Feel like a 2nd plus one of Joseph/Watson/Kelly/Holden. Or straight swap for one of JBD or Thomson

I dont think its going to cost more than a 2nd. He has been aweful and makes 3 million. Might not even take a second.

 

[Big Muddy]

Don't think adding Puljujärvi is going to do much for us. Season is lost already anyhow. He's not much better than Gambrell (a backup C) or Brassard, but they are getting paid $950 k & $750 k.

I wouldn't give a 2nd personally. If Edmonton are desperate to get rid of him, then give them a real minor asset in return. I'm not sure we could even give up a player like Holden to be honest given what we've already seen when a defenseman goes down (Zub, Chabot of even JBD). JMHO.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Why not? Stutzle and Sanderson are 20 the only player over 25 that is part of the core i Giroux.

Chabot

 

[Micklebot]

A competent GM could find a D man. Or actually have a stacked team. If Bedard is on an ELC then it shouldnt be hard. Injuries happen for every team.

You got to give to get, I don't see what the hang up is with trading one player for a similar caliber player in another position,

We have Stu, Norris, Greig, and in this hypothetical, Bedard at center, then there's Tkachuk, Batherson, Giroux (for 2 more years after this one) and potentially we'll re-sign DeBrincat on the wings. We've got some depth prospects in guys like Boucher, Sokolov, Ostapchuk, Jarventie Not everyone can fit, but that depth give us the ability to make moves to solidify areas of weakness.

it doesn't have to be Pinto, but I see him among others as very much on the table for the right piece coming back if by some miracle we win the Bedard sweepstakes.

 

[Micklebot]

We could really use another good defensive forward. Hes young and still has offensive upside. See a definite fit for us and at “minimal cost”.

I'd do it, but I feel like we'd have to move out some salary. Maybe send them Kelly or Gambrell with a pick?

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

I'd take him but it needs to be basically for free imo. Not really interested in him for anything but temporary roster filler.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Chabot

He’s 25, not over 25

 

[DaveMatthew]

He’s 25, not over 25

Turning 26 at the end of January.

At the end of this season, he'll be the same age that Mark Stone was when traded. Many deemed Stone too old to be part of the future here, at the time. Only a couple of good years left, they said.

At the end of next season, he'll be the same age that Karlsson was when traded. Will he have played a playoff game by then? We'll see.

Crazy to think about, right? Time flies.

 

[HSF]

My scenario isn’t confusing.

You have 2nd overall. Do you trade it for a young stud d man. That’s it. It’s a yes or no

nah you don't trade that pick

You draft a beast player and then you deal Greig for a defensemen

 

[Burrowsaurus]

nah you don't trade that pick

You draft a beast player and then you deal Greig for a defensemen

Thank for you the response lol.
Who says greig can get you a d man? I was talking a premier young d man.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

We could really use another good defensive forward. Hes young and still has offensive upside. See a definite fit for us and at “minimal cost”.

Given the Big drop off in depth from the top 6 to the bottom 6 I think any option that can improve that and close that gap should be looked at.
Not having a great year by any means though.

It would be interesting to see vs 3l Puljujarvi, 4l Joseph vs Joseph, Watson.. Maybe the Oilers retain to even the money and flip Watson for him.

 

[HSF]

Thank for you the response lol.
Who says greig can get you a d man? I was talking a premier young d man.

I think you need to specifiy which defensemen then? Like a Owen Powers or Dahlin? I thin

 

[DaveMatthew]

Thank for you the response lol.
Who says greig can get you a d man? I was talking a premier young d man.

I don't think you trade #2 overall.

But #2 overall (Fantilli) makes any of Norris, DeBrincat, Batherson and Pinto expendable. You flip one of them for a D.

The value of having a guy like Fantilli on a 3-year ELC is huge. You can't trade that away. He would have been the #1 overall pick in all of the last 3 drafts.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I dont think its going to cost more than a 2nd. He has been aweful and makes 3 million. Might not even take a second.

If we aren't sending salary back, I'd be very surprised if it takes a 2nd.

Mandolese/Hawryluk/Sabourin/Engstrand/Aspirot etc. + TB 4th 2024. Bet that would get it done.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Given the Big drop off in depth from the top 6 to the bottom 6 I think any option that can improve that and close that gap should be looked at.
Not having a great year by any means though.

It would be interesting to see vs 3l Puljujarvi, 4l Joseph vs Joseph, Watson.. Maybe the Oilers retain to even the money and flip Watson for him.

I think Edmonton happily flips Puljuarvi for Watson... not sure we would make that deal though.

Watson looks like a classic overpay contender. Physical, fights, consistently excellent PK #s, a touch of goalscoring, and a history of significantly stepping up his game in the playoffs. Some team will feel the need to add toughness going into the playoffs and might just offer up a late 2nd.

 

[DaveMatthew]

I think Edmonton happily flips Puljuarvi for Watson... not sure we would make that deal though.

Watson looks like a classic overpay contender. Physical, fights, consistently excellent PK #s, a touch of goalscoring, and a history of significantly stepping up his game in the playoffs. Some team will feel the need to add toughness going into the playoffs and might just offer up a late 2nd.

Nobody is trading a 2nd for Auston Watson. 5th/6th max, and he'd be a black ace on every playoff team.

If we have to trade Zub, he probably gets a 2nd + prospect.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I think you need to specifiy which defensemen then? Like a Owen Powers or Dahlin? I thin

Yeah Seider or power. Like would you offer it up.

Even first overall I’m curious.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Nobody is trading a 2nd for Auston Watson. 5th/6th max, and he'd be a black ace on every playoff team.

If we have to trade Zub, he probably gets a 2nd + prospect.

Probably not a 2nd, but I guarantee he gets a lot more than a 5th or 6th.

Doesnt matter if you think he's bad, there are several qualities he has that constantly get overpaid for. He's been a statistically-elite PKer year after year, posts about 10 goals per 82, hits and fights more than 90% of the league, plays a role without complaining that not many guys do. And yes, his playoff experience doesn't hurt at all.

If Deslauriers got a 3rd, Watson will get at least that. Deslaurier is a much better figher, but Deslaurier doesn't PK nearly as much as Watson and is far more sheltered at ES.

Yeah Seider or power. Like would you offer it up.

Even first overall I’m curious.

No for Powers but Dahlin would be really, really tempting. He's gonna get papered up on his next contract though.

 

[Sun God Nika]

Yeah it’s a no for me on PoolParty maybe before the comments I would take a flyer.

The second you start questioning if you belong in this league, you don’t.

Nobody is trading a 2nd for Auston Watson. 5th/6th max, and he'd be a black ace on every playoff team.

If we have to trade Zub, he probably gets a 2nd + prospect.

Zub at 2.5m will easily fetch a 1st and maybe even a little more . Now if the sens retain half a team is adding a top 4 right shot at practically no cap going into the playoffs…

Hopefully it doesn’t come to it , but if Zub is not extended by trade deadline you gotta get a haul from this asset