Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals PART XXXXIX

[Pierre from Orleans]

Marino would have been a good target.

 

[GCK]

What’s this Baird gonna do when we trade a 2nd and crookshank and Guenette for monahan

The board melts down when we trade a 4th round pick so I’m thinking it might go poorly

 

[Big Muddy]

If Prayko is availble and the Blues want to blow it up, should we pursue?

Sure, if Parayko actually becomes available, we could be one of the many teams that pursue him. Might as well try for Makar as well. j/k.

I wondered if Blues said anything about a rebuild, so I did a little research. Seems like the most recent info from GM Armstrong didn't indicate that they were embarking on a rebuild. They will have some cap issues this summer, but as always, there are multiple ways of addressing this.

What’s this Baird gonna do when we trade a 2nd and crookshank and Guenette for monahan

I doubt if we have to worry about that. Seems like Dorion & company know the big issue to be addressed is on defense. Time will tell of course.

 

[HSF]

Chabot JBD
Sanderson Zub
Brannstrom Hammer

This should be good enough. Trying to be competitive this year not win a cup

what makes you think this is good enough?

Two rookies in the top 4 is a lot to risk a season on

Been saying all summer. The defense is not very good and a top 4 should have been added. Trying to find one mid season is moronic and next to imposslbe

 

[GCK]

I looked at teams really underperforming in their last 10

Calgary 3-5-2
Nashville 3-6-1
NYR 3-4-3
Pittsburgh 3-6-1
St Louis. 2-8

All these teams had high expectations but Calgary and Pittsburgh have very short windows.

I wonder if there are any trade fits. The 3 below are the primary pieces only.

Calgary - Andersson for Batherson
Nashville - Ekholm for Batherson or Debrincat
St Louis - Parayko for Debrincat

 

[HSF]

I looked at teams really underperforming in their last 10

Calgary 3-5-2
Nashville 3-6-1
NYR 3-4-3
Pittsburgh 3-6-1
St Louis. 2-8

All these teams had high expectations but Calgary and Pittsburgh have very short windows.

I wonder if there are any trade fits. The 3 below are the primary pieces only.

Calgary - Andersson for Batherson
Nashville - Ekholm for Batherson or Debrincat
St Louis - Parayko for Debrincat

Ottawa gets ripped in each of these deals

 

[GCK]

Ottawa gets ripped in each of these deals

Really ? I was thing we’d need to add since wingers are the least valuable piece.

 

[Big Muddy]

I looked at teams really underperforming in their last 10

Calgary 3-5-2
Nashville 3-6-1
NYR 3-4-3
Pittsburgh 3-6-1
St Louis. 2-8

All these teams had high expectations but Calgary and Pittsburgh have very short windows.

I wonder if there are any trade fits. The 3 below are the primary pieces only.

Calgary - Andersson for Batherson
Nashville - Ekholm for Batherson or Debrincat
St Louis - Parayko for Debrincat

After doing a little research (google search), I see that GM Armstrong has not indicated (on Nov. 1) or suggested that he is embracing a rebuild. There's going to cap constraints this summer, but there's likely multiple ways of approaching the challenge. Maybe its Scandella and Leddy that depart, or maybe one of O'Reilly or Tarasenko? Lots of different ways to skin that cat so to speak.

 

[Sens Vader]

what makes you think this is good enough?

Two rookies in the top 4 is a lot to risk a season on

Been saying all summer. The defense is not very good and a top 4 should have been added. Trying to find one mid season is moronic and next to imposslbe

Because Sanderson has been great to start the year, and Brannstom-Hamonic should be an excellent bottom pair.

Chabot can get his head out of his ass

and Zub. Just Zub.

Again you can't wait for some elite defense to start playing defense and winning games, get a new coach. If we wait until this whole roster is picture-perfect then why even have a coach in the first place?

We definitely need a top 4, but IMO this defense is good enough to compete for a playoff spot this season when taking into account the full roster

 

[BondraTime]

I looked at teams really underperforming in their last 10

Calgary 3-5-2
Nashville 3-6-1
NYR 3-4-3
Pittsburgh 3-6-1
St Louis. 2-8

All these teams had high expectations but Calgary and Pittsburgh have very short windows.

I wonder if there are any trade fits. The 3 below are the primary pieces only.

Calgary - Andersson for Batherson
Nashville - Ekholm for Batherson or Debrincat
St Louis - Parayko for Debrincat

Anderson would be legitimately perfect for the Sens, if they were able to get him for Batherson they should be all over that, even though Batherson is an incredibly good player. I don’t think that would be on the table though, he’s their #1D at both ES and PP, and has a spot on their PK as well.

Fits the largest need, signed for another 3 years after this one at a cheaper contract than Batherson, and only 26. Would be a huge boon for the team, but don’t think it’s in the cards.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Anderson would be legitimately perfect for the Sens, if they were able to get him for Batherson they should be all over that, even though Batherson is an incredibly good player. I don’t think that would be on the table though, he’s their #1D at both ES and PP, and has a spot on their PK as well.

Fits the largest meed, signed for another 3 years after this one at a cheaper contract than Batherson, and only 26. Would be a huge boon for the team, but don’t think it’s in the cards.

Batherson arguably has the best contract in the league for the next 5 years. He's close to untouchable.

Edit: Just realized Anderson has an incredibly good contract.

 

[HSF]

Because Sanderson has been great to start the year, and Brannstom-Hamonic should be an excellent bottom pair.

Chabot can get his head out of his ass

and Zub. Just Zub.

Again you can't wait for some elite defense to start playing defense and winning games, get a new coach. If we wait until this whole roster is picture-perfect then why even have a coach in the first place?

We definitely need a top 4, but IMO this defense is good enough to compete for a playoff spot this season when taking into account the full roster

There is a lot of risk and unknown involved there

We don't even know how Sanderson will be come game 40. The season is long and tough. Sanderson can probably handle it I am not sure about JBD. Our RD are very thin. Hamonic would not be in the top 4 on many playoff teams

 

[Sens Vader]

There is a lot of risk and unknown involved there

We don't even know how Sanderson will be come game 40. The season is long and tough. Sanderson can probably handle it I am not sure about JBD. Our RD are very thin. Hamonic would not be in the top 4 on many playoff teams

I dont think its an excuse to be the worst in the division.

Get a new coach

 

[Cosmix]

I would pay a premium for Parayko. The Blues team is being screwed by a lot of their forwards sucking and guys like Faulk (who are putting up points) have been awful. Parayko isn't the problem there and if he's available for whatever reason, I'd be all over him. Heck, I'd trade Chabot for him. He's cheaper, is a much better defender, and with Sanderson already 3rd in ice time for us, I'd be fine to move on (especially if DJ is going to continue to overplay him). Having said that I'd offer a package of picks and prospects

Acquiring Parayko is going to cost Greig (don't think we give up Pinto), a lotto protected first-rounder for 2023 (if we still tryna compete for the playoffs or unprotected 2024 1st rounder, and one of JBD/Thomson at the minimum. I'd happily pay that and throw in some picks or someone like Boucher.

Chabot Parayko
Sanderson Zub
Brannstrom Holden/Hamonic/JBD

Parayko is exactly what this team needs.

Parayko: Age 29. 6’6, 230 lbs. Cap Hit $6.5M signed until through 2029-30. 8 years to age 37.

 

[NB613]

what makes you think this is good enough?

Two rookies in the top 4 is a lot to risk a season on

Been saying all summer. The defense is not very good and a top 4 should have been added. Trying to find one mid season is moronic and next to imposslbe

Agreed. Think we are a playoff team if our D shakes out this way:
Chabot - Zub
Sanderson - ?TBD?
Brannstrom - Holden/Hamonic/JBD

Since we likely won re-sign both Holden and Hamonic, we might as well figure out at some point this year who we have internally to alot into 6/7 D role next year.

We are very lucky that we are only needing to solidify 1 spot on our D (complementary defense first RHD). Sanderson and Brannstrom have really surpassed expectations. Combined with Chabot playing at his normal level, and Zub returning, we may be able to mask D issues on the right side.

 

[bicboi64]

Parayko: Age 29. 6’6, 230 lbs. Cap Hit $6.5M signed until through 2029-30. 8 years to age 37.

I mean it would suck to pay him as he gets older, but right now he checks off every box we need for a top4RD. Also RD's are probably the hardest position to fill.

No point in having so many decent prospects developing when they're just going to come onto a big club with a broken system. We had a chance to get an RD with valuable assets this past summer but spent our best asset on DeBrincat. Gotta overpay now if we want a top4 RD

 

[NB613]

I mean it would suck to pay him as he gets older, but right now he checks off every box we need for a top4RD. Also RD's are probably the hardest position to fill.

No point in having so many decent prospects developing when they're just going to come onto a big club with a broken system. We had a chance to get an RD with valuable assets this past summer but spent our best asset on DeBrincat. Gotta overpay now if we want a top4 RD

Would rather have someone internally do this job than handcuff ourselves to that contract.

We would be looking at someone in the 2.5-4.5M range if looking outside (ie - Chychrun, DeMelo, Mayfield, Larsson etc).

 

[bicboi64]

Would rather have someone internally do this job than handcuff ourselves to that contract.

I'd love for JBD, Thomson, etc... to step up and fill that role but if we want to salvage this season and address a major hole for next year, nows the time.

Besides, its not like we're acquiring someone like Zaitsev, who had a long term contract but an awful year and was given up on by a deep Leafs team. Its Parayko, one of the better defensive defenders in the league since his time in the Blues and the Blues are in a downward spiral.

 

[HSF]

I dont think its an excuse to be the worst in the division.

Get a new coach

agreed that coaching is a huge issue too

 

[NB613]

I'd love for JBD, Thomson, etc... to step up and fill that role but if we want to salvage this season and address a major hole for next year, nows the time.

Besides, its not like we're acquiring someone like Zaitsev, who had a long term contract but an awful year and was given up on by a deep Leafs team. Its Parayko, one of the better defensive defenders in the league since his time in the Blues and the Blues are in a downward spiral.

Not worth making being a bubble team this year to only handcuff us for next seven years. Plus if we get Parayko no way we can afford Zub.

 

[Flamingo]

Friedman on Jeff Marek says Sens could be interested in Jets or Canucks defensemen. Who could he be thinking of?

 

[Hale The Villain]

Friedman on Jeff Marek says Sens could be interested in Jets or Canucks defensemen. Who could he be thinking of?

Given what DJ looks for in defensemen, probably Dillon or Stanley from Winnipeg.

Jets have a lot of depth on D. Heinola has complained about not getting a shot because of all the D ahead of him.

They also badly lack forward depth, so they'd probably want a top 9 forward in exchange. Other than gambling on Formenton returning eventually, not sure who we'd be able to offer.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Batherson arguably has the best contract in the league for the next 5 years. He's close to untouchable.

Edit: Just realized Anderson has an incredibly good contract.

Value is only good when said value is actually having a positive impact.

Batherson may be valuable from a contract perspective but we desperately need a high quality rd.

I'd trade almost any forward except Brady and Stutzle for one.

 

[bicboi64]

Friedman on Jeff Marek says Sens could be interested in Jets or Canucks defensemen. Who could he be thinking of?

Really hope its DeMelo or Schmidt. Both are decent stop gaps to slow down our downward spiral.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Really hope its DeMelo or Schmidt. Both are decent stop gaps to slow down our downward spiral.

Both of them have NTCs. Can't see Schmidt waiving his to come to Ottawa but maybe Ottawa isn't on DeMelo's list given his history here.

Chabot's struggles probably make it more likely DeMelo could return, given he played well with Chabot in the past.