Put this in wrong thread but Dorion and bowness watching mtl again
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Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals PART XXXXIX
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Sounds like Pinto+Brannstrom for Dvorak+Savard is close.
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BondraTime
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Have had the same 3/4 pro scouts for the past 10ish years
Jim Clarke - 2008-Present
Rob Murphy - 2010-2014 and 2017-Present
John Perpich - 2014-Present
Steve Stirling 2017-Present
Those are our professional scouts, along with Dorion and Bowness
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Ty Smith was an incredibly sought after player both as a prospect and even after his 1st NHL season. Unfortunately for him, he struggled in his sophomore season which inevitably led to the trade but there is no doubt in my mind he was still seen as more valuable than many of the names I see suggested that we give up.
We would have had to probably offer one of Greig, a 1st rounder or Pinto to get Marino. Brannstrom, Boucher, and many of the other names being thrown around simply don't do much for other teams at this point.
We would have had to probably offer one of Greig, a 1st rounder or Pinto to get Marino. Brannstrom, Boucher, and many of the other names being thrown around simply don't do much for other teams at this point.
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The fact multiple teams gave up mid round selections for him is hilarious.
Would love to get Parayko. Would be expensive but he would be a perfect fit.
I would pay a premium for Parayko. The Blues team is being screwed by a lot of their forwards sucking and guys like Faulk (who are putting up points) have been awful. Parayko isn't the problem there and if he's available for whatever reason, I'd be all over him. Heck, I'd trade Chabot for him. He's cheaper, is a much better defender, and with Sanderson already 3rd in ice time for us, I'd be fine to move on (especially if DJ is going to continue to overplay him). Having said that I'd offer a package of picks and prospects
Acquiring Parayko is going to cost Greig (don't think we give up Pinto), a lotto protected first-rounder for 2023 (if we still tryna compete for the playoffs or unprotected 2024 1st rounder, and one of JBD/Thomson at the minimum. I'd happily pay that and throw in some picks or someone like Boucher.
Chabot Parayko
Sanderson Zub
Brannstrom Holden/Hamonic/JBD
Parayko is exactly what this team needs.
I don't see Parayko going anywhere. He's probably their future captain if O'Reilly walks as a UFA this summer.
I really hope we don't claim him. DJ will overplay him just as he did when he was with Ottawa. Dude played top 4 minutes and was forced to play a shut down role when he's always been a puck mover
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That’s exactly why they targeted him. He would be in the NHL and Joseph would have been waived if he wasn’t waiver eligible.
If you say so.
It would be pretty weird to trade away a top 4 defenseman to avoid waiving your #6.
The Devilish Buffoon
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They traded away a top 4 defensemen because they just added Petry & Rutta and so they could re-sign Kapanen & Heinen.
Also, Hextall mentioned that Smith is waiver exempt as one of the first things he said when discussing the trade. Teams need 8, 9, even 10 NHL D to win the cup and if they traded for Brannstrom instead of Smith, for example, they would have been down one before the season even started.
Maybe. I just don’t buy that Ty Smith and a 3rd was exactly what they were targeting and they wouldn’t have accepted something else.
Doesn’t have to be Brannstrom, could have been JBD or Thomson + pick(s).
I think it’s more likely the Sens just didn’t like Marino that much. Wasn’t my ideal target either.
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Chabot JBD
Sanderson Zub
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This should be good enough. Trying to be competitive this year not win a cup
Sanderson Zub
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This should be good enough. Trying to be competitive this year not win a cup
The Devilish Buffoon
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It's possible that Marino wasn't of much interest to the team due to his contract length, but I think the following criteria were important to Pittsburgh, and made it almost impossible to beat it with an offer that isn't a horrible deal for us:
1) Pittsburgh is as "win-now" oriented as you can possibly be. The player needs to be one you are confident will be a significant contributor in the next 2-3yrs (at most).
2) Pittsburgh got a DMan who is waiver-exempt.
3) Said DMan has played 114 games and scored 43pts, largely in a top 4 role, and almost entirely before his 22nd birthday.
4) They were probably extremely familiar with said DMan, facing him 9 times (not including pre-season) in his short career.
Factor 4 leads me to believe that Pittsburgh is at least warm on Smith, something that I am pretty confident is not universal with Thomson/JBD. That's not to say Pittsburgh isn't warm on one or both of it, just that we have less evidence of it than with Smith (duh). Put that together with the other 3, and I think it paints somewhat of a picture of the thought process between the deal.
One negating factor is that Pittsburgh could have had reservations around trading Marino in-division, but I feel like some teams don't care much about that. Also not sure if Pittsburgh would have looked at NJ as a team they need to "get past"/as asignificant threat.
If we could have landed him, its hard not to think that we'd be in a better spot right now... but I do not think it would have been an easy deal to make.
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