Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic]

[BUCKLE UP]

Detroit is a team we better not be dealing with. We’ll regret it instantly and for the next 8 years.

 

[Mingus Dew]

Detroit might need to move some salary to fit in Debrincat so I thought Copp might be a good option. He is also the type of player the sens are missing, he is versatile can play in any situation in any forward position. Solid middle 6 forward. Contract takes him to 32/33 so its not bad in my opinion.

If it was just 17 + Copp id still do it.


They sold at the deadline because they were missing the playoffs its what they should have been doing. You need to know when its your time. Something Dorion did not figure out. Debrincat fits into their age scheme really well actually. Theyre also missing legit top 6ers their team make up he makes more sense than here in Ottawa.

I would do 17 + Copp in a heartbeat.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Detroit is a team we better not be dealing with. We’ll regret it instantly and for the next 8 years.

If they offer the best return for DBC you do it.

Not ideal but with what we gave up for him, we really need to maximize the return.

 

[Ouroboros]

Copp has a 10 team NTC and is from Michigan - he's not waiving to come to Ottawa.

The guy who covers the Wings for The Athletic figures that 17 + Berggren is a fair deal for DeBrincat.

 

[Big Muddy]

So which former Hamilton Bulldog is a UFA that we could be targeting?

Interesting AHL situation with our new owner. Both the Hamilton/Brantford Bulldogs and the Belleville Senators are part of the Andlauer empire now.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Copp has a 10 team NTC and is from Michigan - he's not waiving to come to Ottawa.

The guy who covers the Wings for The Athletic figures that 17 + Berggren is a fair deal for DeBrincat.

Berggren was taken with the pick we sold in the Zib trade, right?

 

[bicboi64]

Copp has a 10 team NTC and is from Michigan - he's not waiving to come to Ottawa.

The guy who covers the Wings for The Athletic figures that 17 + Berggren is a fair deal for DeBrincat.

Really hope if we deal with Detroit, that we can squeeze a guy like Rasmussen out of them. Good for the bottom 6, but has potential, size, and skill to play in the top 6.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I would do 17 + Copp in a heartbeat.

Same... and then acquire Laughton and we should be well on our way.

Adding those two players would strengthen our depth. SY may have some interest in Joseph as well.

 

[Sensinitis]

Why are multiple people suggesting trading Cat to our division rival?

Trade him out West or in a different division at least.

If Detroit offers a much better deal than everyone else, by all means take it. Otherwise hell no. It would take a big overpayment for me to be willing to do that.

 

[Alf Silfversson]

The point was that people on here shit on Tkachuk until he demonstrated things at the NHL level that got them to change their perspective and opinion. No amount of arguing was going to convince his critics that even though he scored 8 goals in his draft year that he was going to score 30+ goals at the NHL level. Tkachuk needed to prove his critics wrong.

Even after demonstrating solid production at the NHL level, there were still people arguing that Zadina was going to be better in the long run, and that they were going to cap Tkachuk's upside to around a 50-60 point player. I argued with people that he could have Jamie Benn like production, and they thought that was beyond him, until what he demonstrated this season.

With Boucher, no one is changing their opinion on him, until he proves something to them. If Boucher spends the majority of the season in the AHL and puts up solid numbers, he will win over a few critics. Once he cracks the NHL, if he puts up some decent numbers he will win over a few more critics. The point is that he will need to demonstrate a lot for a while before the majority of Boucher critics will change their tune on him.

It's almost like people evaluate the player's play! If Boucher plays well I'm sure most people will be happy about that and he'll convince some skeptics. So far he just hasn't done that. People look at his play in NCAA and OHL games and feel justifiably underwhelmed.

Play well: get kudos.

Under perform: get criticized.

It's not some conspiracy against Tyler Boucher.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Copp has a 10 team NTC and is from Michigan - he's not waiving to come to Ottawa.

The guy who covers the Wings for The Athletic figures that 17 + Berggren is a fair deal for DeBrincat.

I read that.. we could do worse. Berggren is a high motor player with decent skill. Good prospect / young player. I really liked him in his DY and at the U18s leading to it.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

Why are multiple people suggesting trading Cat to our division rival?

Trade him out West or in a different division at least.

If Detroit offers a much better deal than everyone else, by all means take it, otherwise hell no. it would take a big overpayment for me to be willing to do that.

Not many teams will want to add a winger who has a 9m qualifying offer coming off a bad season.

Detroit makes the most sense in that aspect.

 

[Senator Stanley]

Berggren is an interesting option. He's coming off a strong rookie season, is cheap for one more year, and could theoretically slide into DeBrincat's 2nd line LW slot.

 

[HSF]

17 plus bregren is fine if the plan is to flip the 17 for. Legit top 6 winger

Cat leaves a big hole in the top 6 . Don’t want Laughton at the cost of a 1st rounder

If Boucher is not good enough then trade him for a 3rd liner like Laughton

 

[Mingus Dew]

17 plus bregren is fine if the plan is to flip the 17 for. Legit top 6 winger

Cat leaves a big hole in the top 6 . Don’t want Laughton at the cost of a 1st rounder

If Boucher is not good enough then trade him for a 3rd liner like Laughton

I don't think Boucher has any real trade value.

They should keep the 17 and go hunting for a UFA imo.

 

[Sensinitis]

Not many teams will want to add a winger who has a 9m qualifying offer coming off a bad season.

Detroit makes the most sense in that aspect.

So you wait until the deadline where it will be easier for teams to squeeze him in and/or you retain if necessary wih new ownership being official now

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

So you wait until the deadline where it will be easier for teams to squeeze him in and/or you retain if necessary wih new ownership being official now

yup.

Dorion repeated the Zibanejad trade with Gustavsson and now he will repeat the Stone/Duchene trade with DBC.

At least he is consistent. Unfortunately its consistently bad.

 

[Sensinitis]

yup.

Dorion repeated the Zibanejad trade with Gustavsson and now he will repeat the Stone trade with DBC.

I doubt Dorion is authorized to make any trades atm, we'll see what happens

 

[Gil Gunderson]

I doubt Dorion is authorized to make any trades atm, we'll see what happens

Who else is going to make the trades? We're not getting a new GM before the draft.

 

[bert]

Copp has a 10 team NTC and is from Michigan - he's not waiving to come to Ottawa.

The guy who covers the Wings for The Athletic figures that 17 + Berggren is a fair deal for DeBrincat.

Which means the sens should be able to get more maybe Berggren and one of the 2nd round picks. Id also do that. Gives the sens some cap flexibility to address goaltending and forward depth.

 

[Golden_Jet]

I doubt Dorion is authorized to make any trades atm, we'll see what happens

That would be dumb at a key time. Everything will go through the board like before, And Andlauer will likely be informed and asked his opinion.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Same... and then acquire Laughton and we should be well on our way.

Adding those two players would strengthen our depth. SY may have some interest in Joseph as well.

I think the book on Joseph is out.

He is a mediocre 4th liner at his very best.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Copp would be terrific but yea he's from Michigan area with 10 team.

Pay a little extra for Konecny.

Ott: Konecny
Det: DeBrincat
Phi: 17th overall + Berggren/Rasmussen

 

[SpezDispenser]

Copp would be terrific but yea he's from Michigan area with 10 team.

Pay a little extra for Konecny.

Ott: Konecny
Det: DeBrincat
Phi: 17th overall + Berggren/Rasmussen

Next summer you're in the same position with Konecny - and he's not as good. So...you've potentially downgraded your asset again.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Next summer you're in the same position with Konecny - and he's not as good. So...you've potentially downgraded your asset again.

Konecny will be more in demand, trust me. Also from Ottawa area, will cost less. Around 7 mil.

Ottawa can go more depth:

Ott: Laughton + Kubalik + 3rd
Det: DeBrincat
Phi: 17th overall

Value isn't amazing, but the key is 3 million for Laughton for 3 years. Kubalik for 2.5

That leaves off another 3-4 million to use which all could have been used on DeBrincat. Let's say Mayfield for 4.5 or for a number 1 goalie.

Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson
Kubalik-Stutzle-Giroux
Laughton-Pinto-Joseph
Greig-Kastelic-idk

Chabot-Mayfield
Sanderson-Zub
Chychrun-Brannstrom

If the stars in Stutzle, Tkachuk, Batherson, Norris shine. Isn't that a spectacular D group? Especially if Sanderson takes another significant step.