Proposal: Trade Rumours/Proposals [MOD - Stay on Topic]

[Puikiou]

So the idea is taking a 1st/2nd liner 30-40 goal scorer in ADB and replacing him with Scott Laughton a 3rd that hasnt reached 20 goals?

Bewildering, isn't it?

Kevin Korchinski (#7) + Paul Ludwinski (#39) + 2024 3rd for Scott Laughton. That's nice.

 

[milkbag]

So the idea is taking a 1st/2nd liner 30-40 goal scorer in ADB and replacing him with Scott Laughton a 3rd that hasnt reached 20 goals?

Thats sens hockey, baby

 

[Micklebot]

So the idea is taking a 1st/2nd liner 30-40 goal scorer in ADB and replacing him with Scott Laughton a 3rd that hasnt reached 20 goals?

Presumably it also includes redistribution of the 5 mil or so more DeBrincat will make than Laughton,

So, for example, it might be

DeBrincat

Or

Laughton and sign a UFA starting goalie, like Raanta, Varlamov, Jarry, Andersen, Korpisalo, Hill, or trade for Swayman ect.


Not saying i support the idea, just that it's not a one for one plan.

 

[Qward]

It better be Hart, Laughton, and the 22nd overall for Debrincat

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Laughton sounds like a quality bottom 6 guy and DBC doesn't want to play here.

I'm down, one-for-one would be bad value wise but we need better forward depth. I'll take a weak value deal that makes the team better rather than a good value deal that doesn't help the team much.

I'd rather Dorion not be the one to make the trade though. Dorion being in charge increases the odds of it being a bad value deal.

 

[BondraTime]

It better be Hart, Laughton, and the 22nd overall for Debrincat

We may get Konecny as well if we add Thomson

 

[Oscar The Grouch]

We may get Konecny as well if we add Thomson

No way we are giving up Thomson. Sorry.

 

[Sebastien]

It better be Hart, Laughton, and the 22nd overall for Debrincat

Lol dude you can't be serious. Philly , nor any nhl team would never do this

 

[Golden_Jet]

Presumably it also includes redistribution of the 5 mil or so more DeBrincat will make than Laughton,

So, for example, it might be

DeBrincat

Or

Laughton and sign a UFA starting goalie, like Raanta, Varlamov, Jarry, Andersen, Korpisalo, Hill, or trade for Swayman ect.


Not saying i support the idea, just that it's not a one for one plan.

Yes you get 5 million in cap space, that still does not justify DBC for Laughton, DBC is obviously worth more than that.
So you’d need Laughton + pick(s) for DBC and 5 million in cap space.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

So the idea is taking a 1st/2nd liner 30-40 goal scorer in ADB and replacing him with Scott Laughton a 3rd that hasnt reached 20 goals?

Exactly.

Better be Laughton(3 million) + O'Reilly (5.5 million)

The key will be money allotment in different areas of the roster. If we make a trade for Laughton as the centre piece and blow the 5 million on some other garbage then it will be a horrendous move.

Moving DeBrincat will be about strengthening 2+ other positions instead of overloading one with a player whos play style might not even be fully maximized here.

Plus it won't be Laughton for ADB straight up.

Likely looks like:

Phi: 17th
Ott: Laughton + Kubalik + small add
Det: DeBrincat

 

[Bileur]

Presumably it also includes redistribution of the 5 mil or so more DeBrincat will make than Laughton,

So, for example, it might be

DeBrincat

Or

Laughton and sign a UFA starting goalie, like Raanta, Varlamov, Jarry, Andersen, Korpisalo, Hill, or trade for Swayman ect.


Not saying i support the idea, just that it's not a one for one plan.

Exactly or Laughton + Bertuzzi/Bunting/Barbashev.

Goalie is a bigger need.

 

[Qward]

Lol dude you can't be serious. Philly , nor any nhl team would never do this

This is a hockey fan messaging board where we carry zero weight in any discussion. I can ask for the moon and it means bupkis.

 

[Micklebot]

Yes you get 5 million in cap space, that still does not justify DBC for Laughton, DBC is obviously worth more than that.
So you’d need Laughton + pick(s) for DBC and 5 million in cap space.

Did anyone suggest a one for one trade? I certainly didn't.

 

[JaredCowen4Norris]

We may get Konecny as well if we add Thomson

I mentioned it awhile back, but the ideal scenario would be to try and grab Laughton and Konecny in a deal with Philly. I'd be happy getting those two back for DeBrincat.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I mentioned it awhile back, but the ideal scenario would be to try and grab Laughton and Konecny in a deal with Philly. I'd be happy getting those two back for DeBrincat.

They'd definitely want Thomson going the other way in that deal.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Did anyone suggest a one for one trade? I certainly didn't.

Laughton and sign a UFA starting goalie, like Raanta, Varlamov, Jarry, Andersen, Korpisalo, Hill, or trade for Swayman ect.

I don’t see a Laughton+ in there.

 

[Micklebot]

Laughton and sign a UFA starting goalie, like Raanta, Varlamov, Jarry, Andersen, Korpisalo, Hill, or trade for Swayman ect.

I don’t see a Laughton+ in there.

My response was to someone asking about the previous proposal of DeBrincat for Laughton +, context is important,

 

[Golden_Jet]

My response was to someone asking about the previous proposal of DeBrincat for Laughton +, context is important,

Got it thanks, you just forgot to add the plus, no worries.

 

[JaredCowen4Norris]

They'd definitely want Thomson going the other way in that deal.

I'd be fine with something like:

DeBrincat + Thomson/Boucher/JBD + 4-7 Round Pick

For

Laughton + Konecny

If Philly is going full rebuild, I would guess that they'll probably proceed to flip DeBrincat for additional picks/prospects.

 

[bert]

Laughton sounds like a quality bottom 6 guy and DBC doesn't want to play here.

I'm down, one-for-one would be bad value wise but we need better forward depth. I'll take a weak value deal that makes the team better rather than a good value deal that doesn't help the team much.

I'd rather Dorion not be the one to make the trade though. Dorion being in charge increases the odds of it being a bad value deal.

They arent trading Debrincat 1 for 1 for Loughton. He isnt that dumb is he? Maybe he is.

 

[Wondercarrot]

Want Konecny & Laughton if we are dealing with the Flyers.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

re: Laughton

I don't think anyone wants to simply replace Debrincat with Laughton and I definitely don't. But I want to talk about Laughton the player and why I think he would be a very good addition to this team.

Role
First off, Laughton is probably not a true top 6 player, much in the same way that Connor Brown, JG Pageau, and Nick Paul are/were probably not true top 6ers.

Like those guys, he is probably best on your 3rd line but he can also fill in adeptly at LW OR at C in the top 6. Laughton is a "glue" player; he works on every line and he consistently does the right things. He very rarely has down stretches, even if he goes periods without scoring. He was the only Flyer to wear a letter last season.

Skillset
Like those other guys, Laughton is an above average play driver. Not elite or even very good, but consistently above average. Also like those other guys, he has shown the ability to continue to drive play as his minutes and responsibility have gone up.

Laughton is not huge or super intimidating but he is quite physical, willing to fight (non-fighters), and solid. He skates well and protects the puck well, and can make basic power moves to the net. He is highly-engaged, gritty, and tenacious. He can handle himself after whistles and plays hard between them.

Laughton is far from a natural goal scorer, with a career high of 18 and never pacing for much better than that. Compared to the above players, Brown is probably a pretty decent goal-scoring comparison. Moreso than Brown, though, Laughton has the ability to score from mid-range (beyond the dot). He has a good, hard, accurate shot, and has actually out-shot (sh%) his line-mates in all but 1 season (16-17). Laughton has shown a tendency to shoot more when he plays up in the lineup, which may be because he is competent on the rush. He sends and receives passes pretty well and shows poise and skill on the rush & on breakaways.

Special Teams
Laughton was used on the PP for the first time in his career this year, but he was on Philadelphia's league worst PP. Still, he picked up 5 goals & 9 points in 136 minutes, and his PP Pts/60 were just a bit below average (and better than guys like Hall, Duchene, Kreider, Aho, Compher etc). By no means is he a legitimate PP1 option, but he has shown decent promise as a PP2 option and perhaps even a fill-in on PP1 in case of injury.

Laughton has been a very good PKer for a while now but he added an offensive element to his PKing repertoire under Tortorella's new system. He is fine on face-offs.

Contract & Career Outlook
With three years remaining at 3mil and a contract that takes him just beyond his 32nd birthday, Laughton is locked up for cheap during what will likely be his prime years. Laughton took time to come into his own, but has slowly developed into a player who can impact the game at all levels, and now seems confident doing so in any situation. He is not a game-breaker, but he is consistently good, night in & night out and in whatever role he's placed.

TL;DR: Laughton does it all, and he does it all well. He is not a standout at any area of the game but he is a standout pro: he is consistent, reliable, and competent (at least) at every facet of the game.

Want Konecny & Laughton if we are dealing with the Flyers.

Obviously my thoughts on Laughton are clear... and while Laughton is not enough for Debrincat, Konecny carries a whole lot of value. That trade would be a coup imo, even if we end up just trading Konecny after 1 season.

 

[dundee]

It better be Hart, Laughton, and the 22nd overall for Debrincat

You are kidding right???? «You know that Philly are done with fletcher right ?? is debrincat signed for the next 5 years at 4 Millions did i miss it??? come on at 9+ Millions a year good luck to find someone who will give you half of what you are asking for lolll lets be serious here

 

[SpezDispenser]

Want Konecny & Laughton if we are dealing with the Flyers.

Careful on Konecny, he's got 1 year before we could be in the exact same position as Debrincat.

 

[Qward]

You are kidding right???? «You know that Philly are done with fletcher right ?? is debrincat signed for the next 5 years at 4 Millions did i miss it??? come on at 9+ Millions a year good luck to find someone who will give you half of what you are asking for lolll lets be serious here

Please refer to my previous reply