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Speculation: Trade Rumors/Speculation Thread Part VII: Shake Up

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No one is untradable on this team. Call out whatever intangible asset you want. How far is it getting this team?

They are extremely lacking in talent, and despite a very similar roster to last year, speed. I would move anyone that is described mostly in intangibles for young talent before they have no value.

This team will go 2-6-1 on the home stand. Girardi And Callahan will have to be deadline moves with their cap. Let the arms race in the west get their value up.

A week ago I didn't think this team would be in a position where Sather would trade off pieces. This team is awful in every aspect. A trade is quickly becoming a must. Its shameful.
 
Done with this team. Trade them all. mdz, girardi, hags, Moore, Boyle, pouliot, pyatt. Get some Effin toughness and skill in this biotch.
 
Callahan is out 4-6 weeks? He is hurt again? Olympic break begins February 7. Callahan returns January 10-24. One week after the NHL resumes play is the NHL trading deadline. March 5. Trade him before the Olympic break. Is Callahan making the US Olympic team? It won't be based on his play. Those rosters are due in early January.

Callahan will miss between 14-21 games.
 
RangerBoy said:
Callahan is out 4-6 weeks? He is hurt again? Olympic break begins February 7. Callahan returns January 10-24. One week after the NHL resumes play is the NHL trading deadline. March 5. Trade him before the Olympic break. Is Callahan making the US Olympic team? It won't be based on his play. Those rosters are due in early January.

Callahan will miss between 14-21 games.
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Trading Callahan is a tough choice for management to make, but a necessary one.

Callahan is a core player, who plays...played with passion and his leadership skills will be hard to replace. I would only trade him if we got a blue chip prospect in return, something like when the Flames traded Nieuwendyk to the Stars for Iginla (who was a top end prospect).

However, you can see that with his style of play, he will never play a full season, and being a FA he will demand a lot of $$ and years. I love Callahan, but he should be traded, along with some other "core" players. Girardi and/or Staal, Boyle, etc need to go, and be replaced with players with more speed and grit.

We need more skill, and first line talent, because outside of Nash, we have no first line players. We need size and grit on our top lines and our botton six, especially the fourth line needs to have more size and need to chip in offensively every week at least. We NEVER get any goals from our fourth line, and they do nothing to change a game.
 
Punxrocknyc19 said:
Rangers need a young franchise forward.. look at the past 5 teams that won.. Zetterberg, Crosby, Malkin, Towes, Kane, Bergeron, David Krejci, Kopitar


notice the theme. they were all drafted by the team they won with..... .. Rangers should do what they can to draft their own franchise forward... Kreider could be that but most good teams have at least 2 elite forwards they drafted..
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Alot of people would say for us thats Nash. For some reason everyone likes to think of him as a scrub. Every since his return, hes putting up big points.
 
Callahan hasn't never played a full season in NHL. He will be 29 years old. You don't have much time to decide. The trading deadline is March 5. Callahan is hurt for the third time in less than one year.

Callahan is out for 4-6 weeks. Staal is out with another concussion. He will not be playing for the foreseeable future. That's 2 main cogs out of the line-up. Those players can't be replaced while they are out of the line-up. They weren't not playing well but its still 2 main pieces of your team.

Its time to make some unpopular decisions.

Right track. Wrong track.

The Rangers are on the wrong track.
 
Robs789 said:
Alot of people would say for us thats Nash. For some reason everyone likes to think of him as a scrub. Every since his return, hes putting up big points.
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That's just the thing though. Name a team that has been great and won everything because they had one superstar player....

There is nobody. Teams that win the cup like the hawks or pens have multiple superstars.

The rangers don't and won't have multiple superstars unless they start playing terrible enough to be picking top 3 in the draft.

So the only other option is to not try to play that type of game, and instead try to play a style like Boston. They don't have superstar offensive players. They have a great defense and two way forwards.

And I'm not saying play the Torts style of game, boston doesn't do that at all. But they have balance. Four offensive lines who contribute.

Rangers don't have any sort of balance because they keeping moving all the depth for one top end player. And you can't win like that. Depth > top end. Always
 
Brown is more robust and not injury prone.Brown should get that contract.

Callahan is a good player but his body can't keep up.

Management has tough important decisions to make that can determine the future success of the franchise

Maintaining status quo should not be one of them
 
We haven’t even gotten into the injuries yet. Ryan Callahan (Grade 2 left knee MCL sprain) is now out 4-6 weeks. Nobody has any idea if or when Marc Staal (concussion) might return. There was a moment there when Ryan McDonagh looked injured, when he took that terrible spill that left the front of the net defenseless on the 1-0 goal. Callahan, who has certainly not played to his potential, has in the last seven months had shoulder surgery and a broken thumb and now this, plus he got slashed on the hand and took a puck to the onions over the weekend. You have to wonder how he’s going to hold up, with the way he plays, going forward. Staal was playing terribly too.
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http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2013/12/11/rangers-predators-review-2/
 
Callahan to many on this board is one of our favorite Rangers for what he represented, how he's worked his way up and become captain. I don't want to see him go. However reality is reality and it just might be time to blow this thing up with the exception of guys like McD, Stepan, Kreider, etc.

The only downside is this is a no-win scenario. You trade arguable the second most popular Ranger since the first lockout the fans will be disgruntled and the identity of this team might take 2-3 years to recover.
 
White Plains Batman said:
The only downside is this is a no-win scenario. You trade arguable the second most popular Ranger since the first lockout the fans will be disgruntled and the identity of this team might take 2-3 years to recover.
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Don't worry, the identity of the team has already disappeared.
 
White Plains Batman said:
Callahan to many on this board is one of our favorite Rangers for what he represented, how he's worked his way up and become captain. I don't want to see him go. However reality is reality and it just might be time to blow this thing up with the exception of guys like McD, Stepan, Kreider, etc.

The only downside is this is a no-win scenario. You trade arguable the second most popular Ranger since the first lockout the fans will be disgruntled and the identity of this team might take 2-3 years to recover.
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The only reason I am not 100% opposed to moving Callahan, Girardi, Staal is basically this:

slipknottin said:
Don't worry, the identity of the team has already disappeared.
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In a way it's already done. As tough as it will be seeing those guys go. And it will be damn tough. They were the first real signs of the "change in culture" of the Rangers and gave many of us real hope for the first time in a long time.

What may be worse is that I dread what type of players Sather will target in return. A pursuit of pure, one-dimensional skill could be a disaster. A repeat of the Gaborik trade for any of those 3 could be a nightmare.
 
Have to say it's looking better and better to move Callahan. Crazy how only a few months ago this would have been insanity. His injuries are adding up. You just can't give a guy like this a 5+ year contract, especially what he will command. Not to mention if the team is truly changing how they want to play the game, he is starting to no longer look like a fit.

Just get on with it already.
 
RangerBoy said:
How much are you paying Callahan? Term and money.

Callahan can demand eight years from the Rangers. He can demand seven years in July as a free agent.

Lets hear it.
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8 years

8m
8m
7m
7m
4m
4m
4m
4m

Give him guaranteed money.

Give him lots of it up front.

Give him a long contract under which you make him take into account that he won't be the same player when he is 36, 37 and 38.

5.75m per.

2m more for the duration of the contract bumps up the AAV 0.25m. IE if we give him 6m per the 5th year, we hit 6m even for the AAV. If we give him 6m the 5th and 6th year we hit 6.25m. If Cally is reasonable, we should be able to hit 5.75m. I can't see us being forced to tops 6.25m.

Having Cally with a cap hit at 5.75m when he is 29-37 is not that big of a burden. Later on in that contract it will be like carrying a 3-4m contract today. Cally could be spent, who knows nowadays.

Its important to remember though that -- Marc Savard -- is signed by Boston till 2016-17. It aint hurting them one bit. The worst case scenario is that we pay a true home grown veteran leader 3m per to score 30-40 pts and kill penalties. If he goes down more than that, his contract wouldn't be a problem at all.
 
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