I dunno I'm just not a believer in the let him sit in the A and develope like him playing against the best players in the world can hurt him. Anything I've ever done in my life I've always wanted to play against the best because it brought out the best in me, you stick me with people who are lesser I'm not gunna strive. That's just how I see it
Speculation: Trade Rumors/Speculation Thread Part VII: Shake Up
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cd211
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cant compare any of them to callahan, sorry
while i agree everyone is tradeable.. all those players were old, weren't going to resign, team was rebuilding, team had no future at the time ($$ good ownership) and ridiculously bad contract..
NYR/callahan fit none of those situations and are noone of the above.. and to say we need drastic changes or move out our core guys is bs.. we need a little shake up, get some new blood but what our fans/people on here seem to forget these guys would be top6 and top 4 dman on 80% of the teams in this league, and if made available teams would be lining up to try adn pry them out of here....
we have more then enough talent to make a run.. yes we need more top end talent but what other teams dont have the same needs.. determination and desire set the difference in this league.. you got to want to win.. there compete level is no where near where it should be.. compete level is different then effort.. and most of all you blaime the coaches for that.. not the players..
The fact is he is coming into UFA and he may want a lot of money on a long term deal which fans are worried about. Is he really worth more than 5 mil for the next 6 years? That is what the franchise has to ask itself, I personally don't think he is worth that. If Callahan gets that kind of deal from us and starts to decline we are stuck with him and that contract.
Paulie Walnutz
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Oh really? So a mediocre team that's not elite should pay their captain who is injury prone and will break down earlier in his career? And then when this team has no cap space to make minor or major moves I'm gonna laugh my head off because it's the same garbage year after year. Middle of the road, just make the playoffs and lose, Dolan gets his money, Sather and company blow picks in June then blow their load in July on free agents. It's time to realize this core isn't good enough.
Bullseyes
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This.
Everyone is tradable, including Callahan. Callahan isn't Sidney Crosby or Shea Weber or Jonathan Toews or an elite player with the C. He's an average 2nd liner who's injury prone and IMO who's body will break down sooner rather than later.
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Gordon Bombay
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You're competitive, all competitive people have this train of thought. I'm sure McIlrath has this belief too, but you just can't throw a guy like him into the wolves. He's a questioned draft pick where every mistake will be analysed. Big player, which always take longer to develop. Plays defense, the toughest position to learn.
Most young guys need to learn how to be a top guy on a team and that's done by going through the ranks and getting the top minutes. Up here he's gonna get sheltered minutes when at his age he should be playing as much as possible. Just because it's a lesser league doesn't mean he can't learn anything. His positioning, skating, passing, everything will improve down there through coaching and playing a lot. One more thing is confidence. When guys come up and don't play well and it can affect their confidence and their growth. There's just no need to rush this guy, wait until he can step in without a doubt and call him up.
Trade Callahan for a 1st and a prospect, Girardi for a 1st and unload Pouliot, D Moore and Pyatt for anything. Moore isnt getting a 2nd
to think I almost missed this gem
I nominate RangerBoy to actually do 90% of the job, while I focus on the out - of - the box creative stuff necessary.
The rest of ya, if you've got anything constructive to add, can serve as consultants...
Everyone's invited, even bern
Raspe, don't make me go all Sally Field at the Oscars on your ass:
... You all like me!
You really, really like me!!!
I Eat Crow
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If you want to replenish the prospect pool and retool this is the way to do it. If the Rangers can get a 1st and a player like Brett Connolly, Brett Ritchie, or Matt Nieto, for deals around Callahan and Girardi, you do it. Get rid of players not in the long term plans, and you go into the offseason with a replenished prospect pool, just as competitive and with cap space, scary as the thought may be.
What's real LOL and amazingly true is I don't do ANY of that NHL 12, 13, 14 etc stuff
I manage that all on my own.
Yeah, good try.
But there are some things, apparently, computers still cannot do better than a human.
Or at least some humans.
Is something bad in the water in NYC this season?
All of a sudden the following players are struggling:
Girardi, DZ, Staal (before his injury), J Moore, Callahan, Hagelin, Stepan, Brass and Boyle.
All of a sudden 9 players are underperforming. Must be the water.
Out of that list, Girardi, DZ/Staal (One of them), Callahan, Brass and Boyle are ready to be shipped out
It's tough to trade 1 or 2 roster players and get good value for them, let alone trading 5.
Bernie's proposals don't seem so outrageous all of a sudden.
I don't know what you'd call it, but it's nothing short of an upheaval and a recognition that Sather failed. Good luck with Sather admitting that.
confession is good for the soul, and
finally,
I AM VINDICATED AT LAST!!!!!!!
Leetch66
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Leo Komarov . I know this won't help our scoring woes...but this firecracker can really play . Last year with the Leafs he was a sparkplug and hit everything in his way . He played 14 minutes a game and killed 2 minutes a game in penalties for the leafs and he can fit anywhere in the bottom 6 . He would be inexpensive and would not cost us anything but cash . Here is an article on his signing back in Russia .
http://theleafsnation.com/2013/6/10/dynamo-gm-confirms-leo-komarov-signing
http://theleafsnation.com/2013/6/10/dynamo-gm-confirms-leo-komarov-signing
Careful, careful my friend.
Going too heavy on young players/picks, that could be perceived as entering bernmeister territory.
its unfair to judge this soon because those players haven't had time yet to turn out to be worthless...i guarantee that people have said the same thing countless times in the past and then 5 years later when all those guys are bust the same people hype up the next group...
it seems just like yesterday that i was being told how awesome our future was cause we had guys like garth murray and bryce lampman.
Percentages say you are right, RB, but I think Boyle could actually get a late 1st if we move him quickly to a contender with need/injury.
Have not done research but this could be worth it, certainly a depth add. Next year, I think, we let guys like Bourque go. A filler now could fine, and there is a chance he sticks.
Mark McNeil C
Mid first round pick, Black Hawks
This guy has underperformed.
Do we want to make an offer?
How much discount should we expect/dare we demand?
Not sure we want him, but at low enough price --- head count, what is that? --- not the worst investment we can make.
Thoughts?
Mid first round pick, Black Hawks
This guy has underperformed.
Do we want to make an offer?
How much discount should we expect/dare we demand?
Not sure we want him, but at low enough price --- head count, what is that? --- not the worst investment we can make.
Thoughts?
i dunno if he struggled but he is a 1st year pro in the AHL.. i wouldnt mind him but if their is anyone on that hawks organization that i want is Ryan Hartman
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=130904
teammate of JT Miller in 2010-2011 season
Rangers need a young franchise forward.. look at the past 5 teams that won.. Zetterberg, Crosby, Malkin, Towes, Kane, Bergeron, David Krejci, Kopitar
notice the theme. they were all drafted by the team they won with..... .. Rangers should do what they can to draft their own franchise forward... Kreider could be that but most good teams have at least 2 elite forwards they drafted..
notice the theme. they were all drafted by the team they won with..... .. Rangers should do what they can to draft their own franchise forward... Kreider could be that but most good teams have at least 2 elite forwards they drafted..
Crease
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This team is led by a top-5 goalie, a top-15 defenseman, and a top-60 forward. There's just not enough talent on this team. When you're depending on guys like Hagelin, Zuccarello, and a third-year rookie for offense, you haven't built a proper team. I wouldn't mind seeing this team do a complete upheaval. Keep Lundqvist, keep McDonagh. Maybe keep Kreider and Stepan. Otherwise, this team needs new leadership. Kids with swagger. Vets with toughness. One can dream.
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