Speculation: Trade Rumors/Speculation Thread Part VI: Do Something
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haohmaru
boomshakalaka
Yeah, he's got size and some upside. I don't see why on earth the Habs would be looking to move him, though, and I'm not sure how much he adds to this team right now.
Rangers need team toughness (and not just a single guy). If Dylan would be ready (and I don't think he is), I'd trade DZ for a rugged 3rd liner (like Clutterbuck) and a draft pick.
This team lost a lot when they lost Prust and Dubinsky and I don't want to bring up that old tired debate again about how much $ they got and everything else. Those were 2 character guys that this team never recovered from losing.
haohmaru
boomshakalaka
Ellers game isn't too far off from Anisimov's. I would want MaxPac & Diaz.
Sending a Del Zotto, Brassard plus package going the other way.
Still think they are looking for a top 4 RHD for DZ. My gut tells me that it will end up being Big Buff.
WPG will want to shave off it's cap as they are not a market that can lose and spend. Byfuglien fills a lot of needs, the Rangers have the best training staff in the league. Buff will have access to all the types of food you can find in the world in NY, and still be fit with his options in NY, and Reg Grant has done nothing but great things with Ranger prospects. Richards can take Buff to Ben Prentice closeby in CT.
Buff can chow down at one fine restaurant after another in NY. I can't imagine how he would not like that.
I'd be down to sell a nice chunk of the farm for a Kane Byfuglien package. Take $40M off of salary committed from WPG, and take of two guys with off ice concerns (one conduct, the other weight) from WPG. Kane starts making $6M next year, and it would be a tougher pill for them to swallow given past trends. Millenials do play hockey nowadays.
haohmaru
boomshakalaka
This team needs just about everything. A #1 center, a top 6 LW that can score, a bottom 6 player to add some grit, a defenseman to add some toughness, a playmaking defenseman.
The roster deficiencies are as astounding as ever.
The roster deficiencies are as astounding as ever.
Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Change is good.
Agreed. For all the downsides people like to point out, he's a difference maker when he's on the ice. The Rangers need more of that - and you don't ever get them without blemishes unless you're drafting at the very top of the first round.
NYR Sting
Heart and Soul
LOL. I can't wait to see how long it takes for Byfgulien to become Public Enemy #1 at the Garden once the fans get comfortable with the idea that besides shooting, he doesn't really do much of anything. Like, play defense or pass.
It's always a good idea to load up on guys that bad teams aren't willing to pay to keep around.
It's always a good idea to load up on guys that bad teams aren't willing to pay to keep around.
haohmaru
boomshakalaka
In this parity-era league every team has deficiencies. Welcome to the new NHL.
haohmaru
boomshakalaka
Yeah, he was awful on that Cup winning Hawks team...
Besides, if we're talking shipping out MDZ and shipping in Buff, I don't see how that could possibly be a step backwards. MDZ is clearly done here and Buff is clearly done there.
The good teams dont have deficiencies in nearly every area.
Dynamic players hide a lot of issues in the NHL. The Rangers have 2. Nash is as talented as they come, but seems to be missing the compete level to take him into the elite category -- I hope that changes. Lundqvist is world-class, but isn't playing up to his abilities this season. 1 dynamic position player - and hes a winger. This team is woeful down the middle.
If AV wants a defensively responsible 3C to go on a defensively responsible 3rd line, he's absolutely an upgrade over Brassard. Brassard, as much as I hoped he would excel again this year, has been mediocre at best. He's a scoring line center. Not a reliable option as a 3rd liner.
Eller also brings an element of grit to the roster. He's certainly not a dominating presence, but he excels in chippy, physical contests. That being said, I think Lindberg can, and will be just as good, if not better. So I'd be looking for other pieces from the Habs.
NYR Sting
Heart and Soul
The stacked team that got rid of him the following summer and remained a Cup contender, winning another Cup afterwards?
Besides take big shots, what else did he do? I watched most of their playoff run that season, I don't remember him doing much of anything else. Yeah, he's got a rocket for a shot, and he'll score some goals. He'll also singlehandedly give up quite a few of them, because he's a disaster defensively.
haohmaru
boomshakalaka
Richards/Stepan/Brassard/Boyle/Moore is woeful? I'd say it's average to above average.
There are only a select few teams, including the one that we played yesterday, that don't have significant flaws. I'd put the Hawks there, the Bruins there, maybe San Jose, maybe LA, and possibly Anaheim. But, if I looked at those lineups hard enough, I'd find deficiencies there, too. In a lowered salary cap league, a ton of teams couldn't do what they wanted. Including the Rangers.
haohmaru
boomshakalaka
haohmaru
boomshakalaka
Would you say we got pushed around a bit yesterday?
Would you say, that besides his shot, a player like Buff would help with that?
I'd put him back on forward and utilize that shot. It's one of the things that beat us yesterday.
Again, if shipping out a player like MDZ brings in a player like Buff, I'm all for it. MDZ isn't playing anyway.
Rangers definitely need a steve ott or cheis neil type. Whoever cones cheaper. Yesterday was disgusting. They were bullied.
NYR Sting
Heart and Soul
How would a player who is dumb, fat and lazy, help you with anything? Poor decisionmaker with the puck because he is a total shotwhore, awful positionally, and slow to get back in transition. It is one thing to be a shotwhore when you are Chara, and you are a brick wall in your own zone. It is another to fire away from the blueline and do nothing else.
I would say that, as usual, it is a lateral move at best that would solve one problem by creating another. In other words, typical Rangers.
Making lateral moves that don't create real progress is how the Rangers have become mired in mediocrity for years, one outlier season in 11-12 aside.
Raspewtin
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Byfuglien would lead NYR in points if he was here
.I don't get the hate for him. He's really not lazy. He's frustrating sometimes, but he's a huge difference maker from the blueline. He's on pace for 60 points. Maybe 3 d-men a year get that many.
Put him on Staal's right side and watch him flourish.
haohmaru
boomshakalaka
Haha, clearly you don't like the guy. But there's no way that MDZ out and Buff in is a lateral move. He's got the highest D corsi on his team, would add significant size and shot to the back end, and would probably benefit from getting out of the coldest NHL market in the league.
pld459666
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Would take Big Buff on this team over MDZ every day and twice tomorrow.
We have no selfish shoot first thinkers. We need that more than a passer.
End of games we can plant his big frame in front of the net and cause havoc.
Buff would help this team a great deal.
We have no selfish shoot first thinkers. We need that more than a passer.
End of games we can plant his big frame in front of the net and cause havoc.
Buff would help this team a great deal.
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