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Speculation: Trade Rumors/Speculation Thread Part VI: Do Anything

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Don't want Skinner. Wouldn't mind their young prospects like Lindholm, McGinn, Rask.
 
Mikos87 said:
That is an excellent comparable.

Looking at Carolina's roster that's Jeff Skinner, top prospect, and a 1st. I'd be very wary of Skinner, but if that prospect is Ryan Murphy? Well that is fair value considering the head injuries being a concern for Marc and Jeff.

I just don't know if Skinner can return to rookie form, is he a self motivated player?

Can Ryan Murphy defend at the NHL level?

Is Elias Lindholm up for discussion?
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You'd never get that from Carolina. Skinner and maybe a pick. Both players have injury concerns but Skinners contract is rough for a guy with concussion issues.
 
BrianBoyle said:
Pittsburgh got tons of value for J. Staal. 9th overall, Sutter, and Dumoulin, a solid D prospect.
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Completely different situation. Jordan was going to get traded to either Carolina or NY and NY (rightfully) couldn't match Carolina's offer with them having a better draft pick. But with Eric and Jordan in Carolina many feel it is a foregone conclusion Marc goes there. Goodbye leverage.
 
ck20 said:
Again, he's had his job for 13-14 years now in NY. He won 4 Cups in Edmonton. Money is the name of the game and he's winning. Not sure where you think this pressure is suddenly coming from. He'll pull the trigger on a trade when he's good and ready.
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The pressure comes from old age. At some point he is going to lose his desire. He's going to be too tired. Even Sather knows he is not going to live forever.
 
Punxrocknyc19 said:
I'd like Lindholm, Murphy, McGinn. Big fan of McGinn. Solid prospect.
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McGinn's brother is available out in Colorado. Gritty hard nosed winger, 2-3 line tweener that can pot 20 a season.

Carolina's McGinn is 5'10" 175 and a junior scoring sensation this season. Lindholm is a few years away from being a man, I don't know how long it would take him to become a top 6 player.

Either way Carolina payed up for a guy that is an elite checker and no 2 center at best in Jordan Staal, Marc Staal isn't the no 1 defenseman on the Rangers, but he sure can be one on Carolina.
 
Savant said:
Completely different situation. Jordan was going to get traded to either Carolina or NY and NY (rightfully) couldn't match Carolina's offer with them having a better draft pick. But with Eric and Jordan in Carolina many feel it is a foregone conclusion Marc goes there. Goodbye leverage.
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Bingo. Carolina can just wait it out. Although there have been long term Bobby Ryan to Philly rumors and he fetched a pretty penny with only two years signed to term. Maybe Staal to a different team?
 
From a source of TVA sports and I honestly dont wish that, there's a rumor about Max Paccioretty + David Desharnais + Nathan Beaulieu to the Rangers for Rick Nash + Dereck Brassard.
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This was a thread on the Trade Boards that was closed because OP never got a quote or direct source. But it leads me to my question, what do you guys think of dealing Nash? He's a superstar, and a great asset to this team, but that contract is down-right dreadful. It can't be ignored, even with the cap going up. MaxPac obviously isn't a better player (yet), but, what do you guys think of dealing Nash?

If it's the right return, I do it.

As for the actual info in the quote.........Montreal adds Collberg or Thrower and I like it.
 
Regarding trading Nash, I would definitely do it for the right return. In fact McD, Kreider, Stepan and Lundqvist are the only untouchables as far as I'm concerned.
 
Raspewtin said:
This was a thread on the Trade Boards that was closed because OP never got a quote or direct source. But it leads me to my question, what do you guys think of dealing Nash? He's a superstar, and a great asset to this team, but that contract is down-right dreadful. It can't be ignored, even with the cap going up. MaxPac obviously isn't a better player (yet), but, what do you guys think of dealing Nash?

If it's the right return, I do it.

As for the actual info in the quote.........Montreal adds Collberg or Thrower and I like it.
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I feel like I'd definitely do it. I think Nash can be a game-changer, but I see him hold onto the puck or try to do too much at times, when a shot or a pass might be better. He's a gifted player, no two ways about it, but if that's the return, I'm interested. Desharnais is capable of 60 points, and Pacioretty should be good for 60 or so.

Brassard I wouldn't be averse to. He played great at the end of last year but has by and large been underwhelming. I wish we could unload Pouliot as well for something. He has skill, but his inability to finish drives me nuts. He can take some dumb penalties.

I think the trade would honestly make us better.

How would the lines work?

Kreider - Stepan - Zuccs
Pacioretty - Deshnarnais - Cally
Hags - Richards - Dorsett
Pyatt - Boyle - Moore

Pouliot


Something like that--I'd rather put Dorsett with Hags and Ritchie because I think he'd complement them better. Boyle could play there, too, really.

To me, that could potentially be a 1A, 1B, 2, 4 kind of line combination if they're playing well, and I think it'd help spread out scoring. That'd leave Pouliot or Pyatt as a an extra, which I'm completely fine with. Helps our cap situation, too. Assuming Ritchie is gone after this year, we should have no problem signing our free agents. We'd probably need a 3rd C for next year--maybe Ott?

Does Beaulieu play the left or right side? I see he's left-handed.
 
I think Beaulieu plays the right side but I'm not sure.

To me, trading Nash (hell, considering it even) is a sure sign of retooling/rebuilding beginning. That satisfies, and scares the hell out of me.
 
Raspewtin said:
I think Beaulieu plays the right side but I'm not sure.

To me, trading Nash (hell, considering it even) is a sure sign of retooling/rebuilding beginning. That satisfies, and scares the hell out of me.
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It makes me a bit nervous, but I think I'd honestly be more excited considering the way we're playing this year. I'd hate to drag this out longer than we have to.

It's disheartening when we had such a spirited and fighting team in 11-12, and now it looks we just have a bunch of guys half-assing out there.
 
Raspewtin said:
This was a thread on the Trade Boards that was closed because OP never got a quote or direct source. But it leads me to my question, what do you guys think of dealing Nash? He's a superstar, and a great asset to this team, but that contract is down-right dreadful. It can't be ignored, even with the cap going up. MaxPac obviously isn't a better player (yet), but, what do you guys think of dealing Nash?

If it's the right return, I do it.

As for the actual info in the quote.........Montreal adds Collberg or Thrower and I like it.
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I'd rather just keep him and put some players with actual talent around him. Chicago has Sharp, Kane, Toews, and Hossa. Pittsburgh has Malkin, Crosby, and Neal. San Jose has Thornton, Marleau, and Couture. We have on player that is even remotely as good as any of those players, and that's Nash. We're not going to get anyone near his talent level back. It'd be a HUGE step backwards.
 
BrianBoyle said:
I'd rather just keep him and put some players with actual talent around him. Chicago has Sharp, Kane, Toews, and Hossa. Pittsburgh has Malkin, Crosby, and Neal. San Jose has Thornton, Marleau, and Couture. We have on player that is even remotely as good as any of those players, and that's Nash. We're not going to get anyone near his talent level back. It'd be a HUGE step backwards.
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I don't see how that could happen cap-wise without re-tooling. Chicago makes it work. San Jose has been playing well. But I look at Pittsburgh and I see a talented top 2 lines and a bunch of weaknesses.
 
The team is .500 still trying to get over the hump and separate themselves from .500 in the right direction. They aren't in last place. Nash isn't getting traded. It doesn't make sense. MSG just got done with a 3 year renovation. Sather may have his job as long as he wants but Dolan still pays him. You're crazy if you think the rangers will rebuild now. You're even crazier if you think they will trade a marquee name they justified trading their homegrown well liked players for 2 years ago. Nash puts fans in the seats and drives merchandise sales. He hasn't been awful either. This team plays Buffalo, NJ, and Washington next. They could very well win all 3. I'm not ready to start overhauling the roster...yet again. It's December 3rd. We haven't made it to the Olympic break yet. People here are already writing them off and packing Nash, Lundqvist, Staal, Girardi, and Callahan's bags. Not everyone is getting dealt. Sather wants to compete. Be realistic.
 
I don't like the idea of trading Staal in our division.

Something like Staal for Sami Vatanen, Emerson Etem, and a 1st could work, maybe. Considering what the Burns deal looked like, I think the value is pretty close. Vatanen is a RHD that can move the puck and shoot (even though I think he plays the left side), Etem can skate and shoot. I would assume Staal would have a lot of value for the Ducks but we'd have to manage eating some salary.

We could then package our 1st, the ANA 1st, and a prospect to move up in the draft. Maybe grab a top 8 pick.
 
If we're out of it or on the bubble at the deadline and Lundqvist hasn't resigned, trade him to a contender for picks/prospects and have him resign that summer :naughty:


Maybe ANA? I know they have solid G depth, but that's all it is; the don't have a bonafide legit G (I'm not sold on Hiller to to be honest)

It's a win-win; Hank gets a better chance to compete for a cup for a few months, we get assets, resign him in the summer long term :yo:
 
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