Speculation: Trade Rumors/Speculation Thread Part VI: Do Anything

[Raspewtin]

would you guys do Del Zotto to Caps for Brouwer and Michael Latta




Brouwer has won, and is a LW with size and can score 15-20 goals... 40 pt player

I don't watch the Caps often but they've really soured on Brouwer, and on a team that really needs secondary scoring that's a real red flag.

There's definitely some catch here.

 

[NYR Viper]

I'd take Brouwer for sure. Big bodied power forward. Always noticeable against the Rangers. Skates well. This is the type of player they should be looking to add.

 

[I Eat Crow]

I agree they could use more players like Stepan. I just think that people are rushing to anoint him a #1 center. On a cup contending team he's a very good #2.

If Stepan is a very good #2, so are Bergeron and Krejci that led Boston to a cup 2 years ago. Stepan is a good start. The Rangers need another center that can put up 60 points. I sure would take that MDZ for Ryan O'Reilly trade that was rumored last year now.

 

[NYR Viper]

If Stepan is a very good #2, so are Bergeron and Krejci that led Boston to a cup 2 years ago. Stepan is a good start. The Rangers need another center that can put up 60 points. I sure would take that MDZ for Ryan O'Reilly trade that was rumored last year now.

Agreed. They need another 2-way 60 point center and they will be fine. Hard to find those players.

 

[I Eat Crow]

I'd take Brouwer for sure. Big bodied power forward. Always noticeable against the Rangers. Skates well. This is the type of player they should be looking to add.

He played over his head last year. He's a 3rd liner. He is definitely a guy I'd like to add, but not at the expense of Del Zotto.

 

[Punxrocknyc19*]

I don't watch the Caps often but they've really soured on Brouwer, and on a team that really needs secondary scoring that's a real red flag.

There's definitely some catch here.

that is a good thing maybe he will be moved for cheaper.. Brouwer is the type of player Rangers management should trade for. not another soft finesse forward like Hemsky

 

[NYR Viper]

He played over his head last year. He's a 3rd liner. He is definitely a guy I'd like to add, but not at the expense of Del Zotto.

15-18 goals and 15-18 assists with the other tools that he brings on the forecheck. I would say he is a 2nd/3rd line tweener. Another ex Hawk.

that is a good thing maybe he will be moved for cheaper.. Brouwer is the type of player Rangers management should trade for. not another soft finesse forward like Hemsky

He only makes 3.67 million for the next couple of years. Not a bad salary for what he brings.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

If Stepan is a very good #2, so are Bergeron and Krejci that led Boston to a cup 2 years ago. Stepan is a good start. The Rangers need another center that can put up 60 points. I sure would take that MDZ for Ryan O'Reilly trade that was rumored last year now.

I don't disagree.

 

[GAGLine]

that is a good thing maybe he will be moved for cheaper.. Brouwer is the type of player Rangers management should trade for. not another soft finesse forward like Hemsky

I don't want Brouwer at that cap hit. 3.67 mil for 2 more years for a 3rd liner. No thanks. If washington retains 50%, we can make a deal.

 

[Punxrocknyc19*]

15-18 goals and 15-18 assists with the other tools that he brings on the forecheck. I would say he is a 2nd/3rd line tweener. Another ex Hawk.



He only makes 3.67 million for the next couple of years. Not a bad salary for what he brings.

i know... Rangers need to bring in more players from winning cultures.. things like that matters... i was bummed that Bolland went to the Leafs at the draft, he is another forward that would add some snarl to this team and some skill..

 

[Trxjw]

We could use a player like Brouwer, but what we really need a player who is on the verge of developing into that kind of forward. Brouwer is 28 and has a decent sized cap hit associated with him. Rangers need to find a cost controllable 3rd liner who can hit, scrap, and chip in 15-18 goals per year.

I think Zack Kassian is on the verge of becoming that player. Not sure what AV's perception of him was last year though. Pretty sure I remember reading lots of fan commentary about him getting the Torts/Kreider treatment.

 

[Ola]

I would be okay with major changes happening. The team needs more skill and size. Investing in this core doesn't seem like it will lead to winning.

I agree with the need for roster changes.

But I think that doing the "right" things is more important than all of a sudden stumbling upon the perfect mix if you get what I mean.

My view is well known, but I just don't think we even remotely has been doing the right things the last 3.5 years. And its questionable if Renney his last years brought us in the right direction either (we were a little short on tempo with the puck).

Hence, I think I would rather remodel this core with 1 or 2 or 3 moves than to open things up, get mobility to make bigger changes, and regroup for a couple of years.

I just think that there is -- alot -- of room in this league to accomplish something just by doing the right things. The level of competition is not high. I am so much more impressed with the "teams" Chicago and Boston than I am with the rosters of those teams. I mean you can get the players but what does that guarantee? What has Washington accomplished? Even Pittsburgh has done squat lately.

Also, I mean, if you miss a certain piece. A true no 1 center that can put you over the top for example, how are you more likely to get that player: (i) playing good hockey and than trading an established player doing really well for the said player, or (ii) sucking and drafting the kid to start with? You know I am not so sure the later option is even better than the former option if it comes to complete rebuild.

McD for example would today, undoubtedly, land us one of the top 10 offensive prospects/young NHLers if we put him on the market. We would get one of EDMs gems. Looking at the teams holding these kids, I definitely would expect one of them to open up and make one of them available for McD. McD don't develop like he have if we are in the same situation as say Florida has been the last handful of years...

 

[GAGLine]

We could use a player like Brouwer, but what we really need a player who is on the verge of developing into that kind of forward. Brouwer is 28 and has a decent sized cap hit associated with him. Rangers need to find a cost controllable 3rd liner who can hit, scrap, and chip in 15-18 goals per year.

Agreed. If we are trading for a "fallen out of favor" type player, I'd rather it be a young guy who still has potential to grow rather than an older guy who is what he is at this point in his career.

I think Zack Kassian is on the verge of becoming that player. Not sure what AV's perception of him was last year though. Pretty sure I remember reading lots of fan commentary about him getting the Torts/Kreider treatment.

I'm not sold on Kassian becoming that player, but if the cost is cheap enough, he's worth taking a chance on.

 

[RangerBoy]

Untouchables. Stepan. Nash(contract and NMC make him untouchable). Kreider. Hagelin. Callahan(signs a reasonable contract). 5 forwards. McDonagh and Moore on D. Lundqvist was a no brainer before he signed a new contract. Not trading any top kids-Miller,McIlrath and Skjei. Amnesty Richards. Everyone else is fair game. The D should attract interest. Boyle and D. Moore have value as rentals. Trade one of them. Dorsett is a character guy the Cup teams try to add.

 

[Punxrocknyc19*]

Untouchables. Stepan. Nash(contract and NMC make him untouchable). Kreider. Hagelin. Callahan(signs a reasonable contract). 5 forwards. McDonagh and Moore on D. Lundqvist was a no brainer before he signed a new contract. Not trading any top kids-Miller,McIlrath and Skjei. Amnesty Richards. Everyone else is fair game. The D should attract interest. Boyle and D. Moore have value as rentals. Trade one of them. Dorsett is a character guy the Cup teams try to add.

id keep Dorsett. always sticks up for teammates and provides energy and PK.. if the Rangers had a lot of grit id deal him but sadly he is the Rangers only energy guy..

 

[Trxjw]

I'm not sold on Kassian becoming that player, but if the cost is cheap enough, he's worth taking a chance on.

I think he's almost there already. He can certainly fight and hit. It's just a matter of getting his compete level up from shift to shift.

 

[NYR Viper]

I'm a bit bored at work today.....

CAPGEEK.COM ARMCHAIR GM ROSTER
CapGeek Armchair GM Roster
FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($2.250m) / Derek Stepan ($3.075m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m) / Ryan Callahan ($5.250m)
Mats Zuccarello ($1.750m) / J.T. Miller ($0.894m) / Brett Connolly ($1.750m)
Ryan Reaves ($0.850m) / John Mitchell ($1.100m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m) /
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Kevin Klein ($2.900m)
John Moore ($1.350m) / Dylan McIlrath ($0.703m)
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($8.500m)
Cameron Talbot ($0.563m)
BUYOUTS
Wade Redden ($0.000m)
Brad Richards ($0.000m)
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Del Zotto for Connolly + Picks/Prospects

Brassard for Klein (even out with picks prospects either way)

They would still need a top pairing RD and a #2 center but they have the cap space available. I assume one of Miller or Lindberg will be ready for the 3rd line.

I'd like to bring Mitchell back to center the 4th line. He has good size and decent hands. I liked him while he was in NY.

 

[NYGBleedBlueNYR]

If we are married to AV & his system we need D that can play well in his system.

I still think we should trade Staal & Girardi & keep MDZ

 

[Vitto79]

Dorsett is the only one w nuts so he's a keeper

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

If we are married to AV & his system we need D that can play well in his system.

I still think we should trade Staal & Girardi & keep MDZ

Personally I think it's foolish to be married to said system. Unless we had a talent level through the roster (like past/present versions of Van, Det, Chi). If we had forwards that were skilled enough to sustain pressure and chances in the o zone by all means.

But at the end of the day management certainly may agree with you.

 

[BroadwayBlues]

What would you give up for Yakupov, Gagner, Petry, Oilers 1st?

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

Tell me why we can't trade Brassard with Del Zotto and get a decent player back in return?

Is it too simple to do that?

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

What would you give up for Yakupov, Gagner, Petry, Oilers 1st?

Pyatt, Pouliot, Yogan and a 2nd in 2015.

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

What would you give up for Yakupov, Gagner, Petry, Oilers 1st?

Crosby gets that. Nothing else.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Personally I think it's foolish to be married to said system. Unless we had a talent level through the roster (like past/present versions of Van, Det, Chi). If we had forwards that were skilled enough to sustain pressure and chances in the o zone by all means.

But at the end of the day management certainly may agree with you.

Agreed. Its foolish to be married to any system. You have to mold your philosophy to the truths of your roster.

The ideological musings of each off-season (exciting, open, fast-paced hockey) get *****-slapped by the realities of Glen Sather's rosters every single year.