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Yep. I think it would take something catastrophic like an injury to Lundqvist and the team being bottom 5 in the league to make Sather consider selling.
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Yep. I think it would take something catastrophic like an injury to Lundqvist and the team being bottom 5 in the league to make Sather consider selling.
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If the cap goes to $70 million, Girardi/MDZ are dealt and Richards is bought out at you are looking at (cap geek wouldn't let me copy the roster):
Kreider(2.5) - Stepan(3.075) - Nash (7.8)
XXXX- Miller(900k) -Zuke(2.0)
Hagelin(2.25) -Brassard(3.7) - Callahan(5.5)
Boyle(1.9) - Moore(1.0) -Dorsett(1.6)
XXXX
McD(4.7) -XXXX
Staal(3.975) - Stralman(2.5)
Moore(1.3) - McI(700k)
Falk(1.0)
Lundqvist(8.5)
Talbot(562k)
That brings a total payroll of $55,500,000 with space of $14,500,000 to fill second line LW, first pair RD and a spare forward. Hopefully in dealing MDZ and Girardi they will add one of those two pieces.
Kreider(2.5) - Stepan(3.075) - Nash (7.8)
XXXX- Miller(900k) -Zuke(2.0)
Hagelin(2.25) -Brassard(3.7) - Callahan(5.5)
Boyle(1.9) - Moore(1.0) -Dorsett(1.6)
XXXX
McD(4.7) -XXXX
Staal(3.975) - Stralman(2.5)
Moore(1.3) - McI(700k)
Falk(1.0)
Lundqvist(8.5)
Talbot(562k)
That brings a total payroll of $55,500,000 with space of $14,500,000 to fill second line LW, first pair RD and a spare forward. Hopefully in dealing MDZ and Girardi they will add one of those two pieces.
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With the cap rising, its just one of those amusing things where the shorter deal may have been more prudent. He could get 100 million over 7 years easily.
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Yeah, it's a gamble either way. Stamkos broke his leg. He should recover and return to form, but what if he doesn't? Crosby had major concussion problems, but eventually came back and earned another huge contract that will take him to retirement.
Subban is about to get a big extension, yet there are still people saying he got screwed with the bridge deal. I doubt Subban thinks so right now.
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I doubt he'll hit free agency. Tampa would be incredibly stupid to let that happen. Incredibly stupid.
Of course they would. We can always hope he wants to leave. Tampa isn't exactly a hockey hotbed.
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There would be a line of teams lining up to sign him if he hit free agency, including Toronto.
Stamkos is arguably my favorite player in the league, I'd love nothing more for him to sign with the Rangers, especially at age 26. But I don't see him leaving Tampa, especially as a free agent.
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His signing that deal indicates to me that he may have been leaving himself an option to leave Tampa Bay at the youngest possible age. Now, that's entirely speculative, but that's a small piece of evidence.
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See that's the problem guys, we never develop top talent, that's why we always sign free agents and regret it later. We can't draft like **** then every off season hope and pray Stamkos is there, or Hossa, Kovy, etc you get the point. Factor in if we do bring everyone back we're going to be tight against the cap with little maneuverability to make changes to a mediocre team. It's a vicious cycle.
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we also dont get the chance to draft at top 5 because we never do that poorly so we dont get the chance to draft a player like Stamkos or Kovy
RangerBoy
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Is Staal's eye hurting his play?
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/ra...st-few-seasons-probably-a-factor-in-recent-st
He always made the right play.
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/ra...st-few-seasons-probably-a-factor-in-recent-st
He always made the right play.
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Players like Stamkos almost never make it to free agency. Only Parise situations in which management has clearly dropped the ball and the relationship to the organization has soured.
Stamkos is going to get paid in Tampa. Maybe not what he would in UFA, but close. The team trying to re-sign has a couple of massive advantages. One, nobody likes to move. Players get comfortable in their routine and place on the team, and don't want to change that unless it's really worth it. They have developed a rapport with management. Two, their current team can dangle a massive contract that they can sign up to a year before any other team can make an offer. It's security. The player gets the long-term contract, and doesn't have to worry about getting an injury before they go UFA.
I don't see Stamkos leaving, TBH.
Stamkos is going to get paid in Tampa. Maybe not what he would in UFA, but close. The team trying to re-sign has a couple of massive advantages. One, nobody likes to move. Players get comfortable in their routine and place on the team, and don't want to change that unless it's really worth it. They have developed a rapport with management. Two, their current team can dangle a massive contract that they can sign up to a year before any other team can make an offer. It's security. The player gets the long-term contract, and doesn't have to worry about getting an injury before they go UFA.
I don't see Stamkos leaving, TBH.
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Maybe or maybe that's just how the contract worked on both ends. I have no idea.
Tampa can offer him more years than any other team. I don't see him on any other team right now. I especially don't see Tampa letting him walk for nothing. For all the criticism that Poile gets for the Suter saga, it'd be a lot worse if Yzerman let that happen with Stamkos. I don't think it's a good idea to rely on players like Steven Stamkos hitting free agency. He's not Parise. He's not Suter. He's a top 3 player in the NHL. That rarely, rarely happens. If he hits free agency, the bidding war will be insane.
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Not to mention no income tax in Florida. If he really wanted to go to a traditional market or a contender that spends to the cap annually it's possible he could throw away comfort and security. Not saying the Rangers are even that team but you get my point.
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RangerBoy
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Trading Girardi isn't selling. I put the post about the Bruins and Brad Stuart in the wrong thread. Gorton was part of the Bruins front office when they traded Stuart and Wayne Primeau to Calgary for Ference and Kobasew. Stuart was going to be a free agent and the Bruins couldn't re-sign him. They traded him. Ference became a key part of the team for next 6 years. That wasn't selling. Instead of letting the asset walk out of the door for nothing they traded him. The Rangers have two choices. Give Girardi the contract he wants or trade him. Playing out the season and letting it go to July isn't the answer. The closer he gets to free agency moves him closer to leaving. I heard McKenzie talking about Lundqvist on TSN radio yesterday and the Rangers didn't want it to linger anymore.
Is Gorton going to have the balls to say to Sather that with or without Girardi, the team aint winning the Stanley Cup this year?
that dont mean anything Jessiman was 12th overall, Montoya was 6th overall. Rangers management has made bad choices in the draft... look at the Red Wings picking good talent in the 6th and 7th rounds year after year.. i bet if Prucha was drafted by the Red Wings, he would still be in the NHL.
Sather isnt that smart. I bet he would rather let Girardi walk for nothing than take a chance of a trade that might fail.. Sather should have traded Prust, i mean lots of teams were in on him. he could have gotten something for his rights..
RangerBoy
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Give him a big contract.
http://nypost.com/2013/12/05/vigneault-disappointed-in-rangers-d-except-mcdonagh/
You can read the comments by AV in the article. He doesn't like Del Zotto every much and that's being kind. A trade can't come fast and soon enough.
While trading Girardi makes perfect sense, I can't see Slats giving him up. He's under the impression with a few moves we can return back to the ECF and maybe even further.
Playoff mentality is once you get in anything can happen. Flyers made it to SCF couple years back as the 8 seed with a 40 year old resurgent goalie. Kings caught fire late in the year too. You never know.
There isn't 1 way to get to the cup. A hot Henrik at that point in the season with a few lucky bounces might be enough to put the team over the edge. More offensive system, hot goalie, you never know... At least that's why I think Girardi won't get traded.
Playoff mentality is once you get in anything can happen. Flyers made it to SCF couple years back as the 8 seed with a 40 year old resurgent goalie. Kings caught fire late in the year too. You never know.
There isn't 1 way to get to the cup. A hot Henrik at that point in the season with a few lucky bounces might be enough to put the team over the edge. More offensive system, hot goalie, you never know... At least that's why I think Girardi won't get traded.
Ugh, prepare to see the Rangers get pushed around by a team with nothing to lose...
pre-Gorton draft picks and we have been drafting fine in the later rounds.... and how could Prucha still be playing if he was on the Red Wings? maybe another year or two but definitely not now.....
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