There is nothing wrong with McIlrath. This organization right now has no patience trying to develop young players because the team stinks and they are kidding themselves with the idea of making the playoffs. So, they don't play kids who are going to have growing pains.
Speculation: Trade Rumors/Speculation Part VIII: Trades for no reason
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Raspewtin
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Leaving McIlrath, Kristo, Fast, and Lindberg in the AHL to develop shows no patience? Okay.
Raspewtin
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Depends on the price.
Anything above 6 mill and no. I'd rather have ROR, obviously a pipe dream though.
He's also 28, not really young.
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Paulie Walnutz
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Paulie Walnutz
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Or maybe there's no point bringing them up because outside of McIlrath none of those are difference makers
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cd211
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******* points as long as stepan is a consistent 50-60pt 2 way center, thats all we need.. get one more things would be real nice..
there are no easy fixes..
slats will not trade g, staal or callahan they are our foundation and there are no easy replacements
We're not a rebuilding team, where you just trade vets for picks and prospects..
players needs to get motivated and get there head out of their ass and AV needs to take full responsibility and get the most out of his players...
there are no easy fixes..
slats will not trade g, staal or callahan they are our foundation and there are no easy replacements
We're not a rebuilding team, where you just trade vets for picks and prospects..
players needs to get motivated and get there head out of their ass and AV needs to take full responsibility and get the most out of his players...
Jackpot
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The guy is 21, there are plenty of young defensemen/forwards around the NHL getting lots of ice time. If he's not ready to contribute at this level yet I would suggest he's not all that talented. Talent, or hockey skill/sense in this case, is something that you have as a natural ability. You can spend a career in the AHL, and it's not because you need it to develop or learn the system, it's because you just don't have the God given talent to play in the NHL. The guy's that do, well they seem to fit right in.
I'm not throwing the towel in on Dylan being a decent third pairing physical/enforcer type. At this point though he's not physically ready to be in that role, no real upper body strength, weak on his skates.. He's lucky whoever he dropped the gloves with the other night treated him like a kid, otherwise he would have been tossed around like a ragdoll. But for for those of you expecting something special from him, just not drinking the kool-aid.
The Rangers need to actually draft talent/skill, not try repeatedly developing it on borderline AHL / NHL players..
Tawnos
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The problem with Stastny is that he just perpetuates the exact problem we have at center, which is skating.
That's a possible Richards 2.0, except this time we don't have a get out of jail free card (amnesty).
JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
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So the answer is to, yet again, go out and find the best option available in FA? You really think that's a good option? Doing nothing would be a better option at this point.
Not all trades by Slats are unlucky. Poor Marain Gaborik just came back after missing 17 games with a knee sprain, plays half a period and gets his collar bone broken by the Flyer's Zack Rinaldo. Out indefinitely.
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This couldn't be any further from the truth. There are plenty of top guys who weren't full-time NHLers at age 21 that became stars. Duncan Keither, Kronwall, our own McDonagh... there are countless names. It's easy to look around the league at young defenseman playing and say that McIlrath isn't on their level... but we're talking about players that are still developing. We're not talking about a 25 year old.
You are aware he was fighting Brian McGrattan, easily a top 5 fighter in the league? He held his own and no person is going to take it easy in a fight with someone who has one-punch knockout power. He held his own because of that upper body strength.
I'm not expecting McIlrath to be a superstar and I'm not exactly sure who you think is hyping him to be that. You just seem to be making a point that every player who ends up good in the NHL is good from their first stint. That couldn't be any further from the truth.
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Stastny would be fine, but at 7.5M or whatever if not more, for yet another middle 6 center?
Rangers need to sell, draft well, pick up some of the leftover UFA vets to fill out the team so the prospects are not solely thrown to the wolves and build a team with a purpose.
If the soon to be free agents refuse to stay if it means leaving some money on the table, fine good luck. Rangers need to have some players who want to be here for more than just for the money. It's called building a culture.
Rangers need to sell, draft well, pick up some of the leftover UFA vets to fill out the team so the prospects are not solely thrown to the wolves and build a team with a purpose.
If the soon to be free agents refuse to stay if it means leaving some money on the table, fine good luck. Rangers need to have some players who want to be here for more than just for the money. It's called building a culture.
Raspewtin
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This is such a terrible ****ing post I don't know where to begin.
Callahan Auto summed it up pretty well so I wont bother.
Free agents are necessary to build a team, but building your team around free agents is a terrible idea, and unfortunately it's the Ranger's M.O. Stastny would fit the Ranger's strategy to a "T" for sure.
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I'm not asking Stastny to be a savior. You can argue 7.5 million is too much, and I agree, but that's what it'll take to get him. He's 27 and has been rather durable throughout his career. His production shouldn't take a dive for another 5 years.
As much as I'm thinking I'd rather trade Nash and blow it up, you need relevant players in your top 6. There's a difference between retooling and becoming a complete laughing stock. If this team goes into next season with Stepan and Brassard or Miller as the top 6 centers, we will be a laughing stock right up there with the Islanders and Oilers. Nash and Brassard brought the Columbus losing mentality with them.
Your New York Blue Jackets, ladies and gentlemen.
Edit: I see what you guys are saying re: Stastny, but Thornton would be the predictable Slats move, not Stastny. This team is in a lot of trouble since Richards has declined at a rate that no one foresaw. Sather traded for Brassard thinking he would be the answer once Richards was bought out. Swing and a miss. Brassard will never be more than a middle 6 center that puts up 50 points in a good year. Stastny put up 50 in a bad year. The team needs another 60-70 point player. Stastny can be that for a few years. Stastny and our 2014 1st rounder would bring a lot more talent to a team that desperately needs it. I just hope Sather and his cronies are gone and their successors can take this team in another direction.
As much as I'm thinking I'd rather trade Nash and blow it up, you need relevant players in your top 6. There's a difference between retooling and becoming a complete laughing stock. If this team goes into next season with Stepan and Brassard or Miller as the top 6 centers, we will be a laughing stock right up there with the Islanders and Oilers. Nash and Brassard brought the Columbus losing mentality with them.
Your New York Blue Jackets, ladies and gentlemen.
Edit: I see what you guys are saying re: Stastny, but Thornton would be the predictable Slats move, not Stastny. This team is in a lot of trouble since Richards has declined at a rate that no one foresaw. Sather traded for Brassard thinking he would be the answer once Richards was bought out. Swing and a miss. Brassard will never be more than a middle 6 center that puts up 50 points in a good year. Stastny put up 50 in a bad year. The team needs another 60-70 point player. Stastny can be that for a few years. Stastny and our 2014 1st rounder would bring a lot more talent to a team that desperately needs it. I just hope Sather and his cronies are gone and their successors can take this team in another direction.
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Jackpot
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Like I said, kool-aid.. We'll see four years down the road... Until then he is where he is.. And if you think holding on for dear life while getting tossed around the ice like a ragdoll is holding your own, that's fine too.. But considering his nickname was the "undertaker", looked way out of his league. Guess he prospered from his size in the big kids league, but this is the NHL, looked weak on his skates and upper body..On the bright side, as I stated already, I could see him eventually filling out and becoming a decent third line tough guy enforcer, but that looks to be sometime down the road, definitely not now...
Raspewtin
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I like how you draw all these garbage conclusions from one fight against the best fighter in the NHL, and 6 minutes a night for two game.
You can see him being a good third pair enforcer? Good to know. I can see him being a good 2nd pairing guy that puts fear in anyone that crosses into the defensive zone.
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Ryan McDonagh isn't being traded. Two months ago,Garrioch had the Rangers trading Kreider and now is untouchable. Make up your mind Bruce. Nash is untouchable because of his no movement clause.
Embarrassing is the state of the organization. Better teams have missed the playoffs.
The Rangers have an idea what will cost to re-sign their free agents. They haven't signed them. They re-signed Lundqvist. They knew the 7th year would get it done and they gave a 7th year. It hasn't happened with the two other guys which is telling.
The Rangers need an overhaul. 6 weeks until the Olympic break and the deadline is one week after the NHL resumes their season.
Backup the truck.
Raspewtin
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LOL at Rick Nash being unavailable but Stepan and McDonagh being out there.
Garrioch is a ****ing joke.
Hope he's right about Glen trying to move Girardi though.
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