Rumor: Trade Rumors and Proposals: Will Chia get us an Xmas gift?
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PKSpecialist
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Pavelec and Hutchinson are not NHL level starting goalies. As backups, they are serviceable. There is a reason Winnipeg can't wait for Hellebuyck to be ready. Their goaltending has held that team back for quite some time. Outside of a great run at the end of last season by Pavelec, the Jets would not have made the playoffs, and they have a playoff caliber hockey team.
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I'm guessing that gives you approximately $30 million locked up in 6 defenders.
Your forward group is left with:
Hall Draisaitl XXX
Pouliot McDavid Eberle
Korpikoski Letestu Pakarinen
Khaira Lander Hendricks
Bottom six still can't score, we need to find another top 6 forward or resign Purcell or hope that a rookie like Slepyshev can play there. We have 0 depth up front. Our first callups would be guys like Platzer/Kessy/Chase/Moroz. We still don't have a proven starting goaltender depending on how Nilsson/Talbot play out the course of this season. If you are signing Buff and trading for Hamonic, trading RNH for Jones is a terrible idea. We don't need 6 top four defensemen. We need four, and it appears that when healthy we already have 3 especially by next season as Klefbom and Nurse are likely ready for top 4 duty full time. Our problem right now is balance. We have 7 or 8 forwards that can play top 6 duty. We only have 3 defenders who can play top 4 duty, and Nurse as a rookie is really playing over his head in that role. We can afford to trade an RNH for a Jones, or an Eberle for a Hamonic, because we have a scale tipped towards forwards. No need to overdo it and become the Predators.
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I'd say more like 3. One good Dman and a top 9 forward, like u say. And then one more of either one.
But, the bigger thing, to me, is we have got to see long term projects moved out. We have at least 2, and maybe as many as 4, key players that we have to move on from.
The vision of winning a cup with the current core of 9 players is over, or at least it should be.
I think we should try and pry one of the starters out of Dallas. How I don't know but we should. They might want another offensive forward... Maybe Eberle? Lol
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Dallas has scored more goals than any other team by a sizeable margin. Their was an Eklund rumour that they are shopping Nikushkin for defense. Bad trading partner for the Oilers.
Best bet to get something done might be with Anaheim, St.Louis, or Nashville for defensemen. Ottawa, Columbus, or maybe Florida for a top 9 forward that has a different dimension to his game than the Oilers forwards.
Buff is a RHD and so is Hamonic.
What would the Jets get for Myers without Eberle in a deal?
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Well you could do 3 good pairings then:
Sekera/Byfuglien
Klefbom/Hamonic
Nurse/Jones
And I'm not sure. Not really a fan of Myers to be honest
BoldNewLettuce
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I know they're panic trades but we've been saying we need to get bigger an tougher for literally 3 years.
If we sell low we sell low but we need guys who are willing and capable of playing a forecheck and crashing the net.
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Big RNH fan due to his versatility, but if you are a team in the western conference and can acquire a 6'3" right handed true number one center, you have to make that trade.
I'd then stack the top 2 lines and roll with:
Hall-RyJo-Draisaitl
Pouliot-McDavid-Eberle/Yak
With my apologies to Mr Lowetide, the concept of having 3 unicorn lines just isn't realistic. Too much talent for 2 lines, not enough for 3, and too much of the same thing, and not enough of anything else.
I love RNH, because he is assigned to fill a big role on the team, the tough minutes against the other teams top line (something a lot of people are missing here) but it really it is his size and strength that is sticking out. I would do that RyJo trade, but it's also with the knowledge that we could end up regretting it as well. The extra dimension and added flexibility RyJo would bring beyond what RNH would be a risk worth taking.
I think if the Oilers do add size, it would be with the top 2 lines stacked, with the right winger being more of the "tougher to play against" kind. Add to that McDavid/Drai contracts, it looks like Ebs will be the one going.
We replace RNH and Ebs with a much more physical center, a vet defense man that we can slot into the number 2 role right now, and 2nd pair in a year or two. Add a piece or two at free agent time to add more size and 200 foot play, this team is in very good shape for a playoff run next season.
It really does take time, and people who are screaming for a trade (and rightfully so) should note that there has been far less trades this year so far than previous seasons, only one (and of little note) in a couple months in fact.
I love RNH, because he is assigned to fill a big role on the team, the tough minutes against the other teams top line (something a lot of people are missing here) but it really it is his size and strength that is sticking out. I would do that RyJo trade, but it's also with the knowledge that we could end up regretting it as well. The extra dimension and added flexibility RyJo would bring beyond what RNH would be a risk worth taking.
I think if the Oilers do add size, it would be with the top 2 lines stacked, with the right winger being more of the "tougher to play against" kind. Add to that McDavid/Drai contracts, it looks like Ebs will be the one going.
We replace RNH and Ebs with a much more physical center, a vet defense man that we can slot into the number 2 role right now, and 2nd pair in a year or two. Add a piece or two at free agent time to add more size and 200 foot play, this team is in very good shape for a playoff run next season.
It really does take time, and people who are screaming for a trade (and rightfully so) should note that there has been far less trades this year so far than previous seasons, only one (and of little note) in a couple months in fact.
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I think it would be best to stack 2 lines, then have a 3rd/4th line of role players/rookies/aggressive players. It would mean trading one of Eberle/Yakupov (preferably Eberle due to his cap hit and greater trade value), trading some LD for RD (that means trading 1 or 2 of Nurse, Klefbom, Davidson, Reinhart), finding a LW with size/grit for the Mcdavid line and hoping 1 of Talbot/Nilsson take the reins as starter, if not then acquiring a veteran starting goalie.
Hall-RNH-Draisaitl
xxx-Mcdavid-Yakupov
Pouliot-xxx-xxx
Hendricks-Letestu-xxx
Sekera-xxx
Klefbom-xxx
Nurse-xxx
In this situation the trade bait with some value would be Eberle, Davidson, Reinhart and the 1st.
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Hall Drai Purcell
Kreider McDavid Zibanejad
Pouliot Lander Lazar
Hendy Letestu Korpi
Klefbom Hamonic
Nurse Sekera
Davidson Vatanen
Nilsson/Talbot
RNH for Zibanejad and Lazar
Eberle plus 3rd for Kreider and Klein
Klein, Reinhart, Simpson, 2017 2nd for Bogosian
Bogosian, Chase for Hamonic
Yak, 2016 1st for Vatanen, ANA 2nd 2016
Schultz (50% retained) for a 4th
Replace Purcell with a UFA like Brouwer this summer.
Kreider McDavid Zibanejad
Pouliot Lander Lazar
Hendy Letestu Korpi
Klefbom Hamonic
Nurse Sekera
Davidson Vatanen
Nilsson/Talbot
RNH for Zibanejad and Lazar
Eberle plus 3rd for Kreider and Klein
Klein, Reinhart, Simpson, 2017 2nd for Bogosian
Bogosian, Chase for Hamonic
Yak, 2016 1st for Vatanen, ANA 2nd 2016
Schultz (50% retained) for a 4th
Replace Purcell with a UFA like Brouwer this summer.
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All of those trades yet Lander is our 3C, we have the same 2 goalies that have been hit or miss this season and Purcell is still here in the hopes of landing a big ticket UFA.
I also think that it's wishful thinking to make the 2 Bogo trades, it'd make more sense for it to just be a 3 way deal IMO.
I haven't seen Ottawa enough to have an opinion of the RNH trade but why does NYR do the Kreider deal? And if they do, why do we keep Pouliot at $4 million?
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I've seen Rangers fans who like that deal on the mains. Mostly because they could really use another right shoot scorer. Stepan and Fast are the only Rangers RHS. Pouliot is still a good player and when injuries happen it would be a good thing to have a player like him to insert into the top 6, much like Zibanejad is a natural center and could fill in there if McDavid or Drai miss any time.
Three way deal is essentially what bringing Hamonic in would have to be.
I still have faith Lander can turn things around. His overall game has been just fine aside from his lack of offensive production. With the right linemates he will be fine. Maybe target Eriksson as a UFA and roll these duos- Hall/Drai, McDavid/Kreider, Eriksson/Lander. Use Lazar, Pouliot, Slepyshev/Pakarinen/Khaira to fill in the top 9.
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Never would you see that many big names move in a season. Put down your nhl 16
In the last 9 months their have been many big names move.
Top 6 forwards or top 4 D moved- Kane, Myers, Bogosian, Lucic, Kessel, Hamilton, O'Reilly, Sharp, Daley, Oshie, Brouwer, Saad, Anisimov, Bieksa. There's a baker's dozen off the top of my head.
I like the D but the are not in the right order
Sekera / Byfuglien
Klefbom / Hamonic or Jones
Nurse / Jones
Davidson / Reinhart
RHD on their side . LHD on their side
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