Rumor: Trade Rumors and Proposals: Will Chia get us an Xmas gift?

[dahrougem2]

Send Talbot + conditional for Shattenkirk at the deadline.

Frans Nielsen would be great on the bottom six also but that's dreaming.

One of these is more dreaming than the other

Hint: It's not Frans Nielsen

 

[PKSpecialist]

Send Talbot + conditional for Shattenkirk at the deadline.

Go for one of Hutchinson or Pavelec in the summer. Hellebuyck is ready for full time duty in Winnipeg.

Brossoit will be the goalie in Edmonton sooner than later.

Sign Yandle in the summer.

Frans Nielsen would be great on the bottom six also but that's dreaming.

Pavelec and Hutchinson are not NHL level starting goalies. As backups, they are serviceable. There is a reason Winnipeg can't wait for Hellebuyck to be ready. Their goaltending has held that team back for quite some time. Outside of a great run at the end of last season by Pavelec, the Jets would not have made the playoffs, and they have a playoff caliber hockey team.

 

[frag2]

Crosby for Nuge+Yak+1st

Then flip Crosby for Shea Weber

So what does the line up look now?

 

[McDrai]

RNH for Jones
Yak + Schultz for Hamonic
Sign Byguglien

Byfuglien/Hamonic
Sekera/Jones
Klefbom/Nurse
Davidson

 

[MPStoEberletoHall*]

Crosby for Nuge+Yak+1st

Then flip Crosby for Shea Weber

So what does the line up look now?

Looks like crap

 

[PKSpecialist]

RNH for Jones
Yak + Schultz for Hamonic
Sign Byguglien

Byfuglien/Hamonic
Sekera/Jones
Klefbom/Nurse
Davidson

I'm guessing that gives you approximately $30 million locked up in 6 defenders.
Your forward group is left with:

Hall Draisaitl XXX
Pouliot McDavid Eberle
Korpikoski Letestu Pakarinen
Khaira Lander Hendricks

Bottom six still can't score, we need to find another top 6 forward or resign Purcell or hope that a rookie like Slepyshev can play there. We have 0 depth up front. Our first callups would be guys like Platzer/Kessy/Chase/Moroz. We still don't have a proven starting goaltender depending on how Nilsson/Talbot play out the course of this season. If you are signing Buff and trading for Hamonic, trading RNH for Jones is a terrible idea. We don't need 6 top four defensemen. We need four, and it appears that when healthy we already have 3 especially by next season as Klefbom and Nurse are likely ready for top 4 duty full time. Our problem right now is balance. We have 7 or 8 forwards that can play top 6 duty. We only have 3 defenders who can play top 4 duty, and Nurse as a rookie is really playing over his head in that role. We can afford to trade an RNH for a Jones, or an Eberle for a Hamonic, because we have a scale tipped towards forwards. No need to overdo it and become the Predators.

 

[Up the Irons]

I don't think Hall or Leon are going anywhere, and adding McDavid as potential trade bait is blasphemy.

Chiarelli has a lot of work to do between now and the start of next year. Finding a defenseman who is better than anything the Oilers currently have, replacing Schultz with a better PP option, adding 2-3 top 9 wingers with size, aggression, and defensive reliability. I'd say we need to change out 5 players at minimum to become a playoff contender.

I'd say more like 3. One good Dman and a top 9 forward, like u say. And then one more of either one.

But, the bigger thing, to me, is we have got to see long term projects moved out. We have at least 2, and maybe as many as 4, key players that we have to move on from.

The vision of winning a cup with the current core of 9 players is over, or at least it should be.

 

[McDeathbyCheerios*]

I think we should try and pry one of the starters out of Dallas. How I don't know but we should. They might want another offensive forward... Maybe Eberle? Lol

 

[Jet Walters]

I think we should try and pry one of the starters out of Dallas. How I don't know but we should. They might want another offensive forward... Maybe Eberle? Lol

Dallas has scored more goals than any other team by a sizeable margin. Their was an Eklund rumour that they are shopping Nikushkin for defense. Bad trading partner for the Oilers.

Best bet to get something done might be with Anaheim, St.Louis, or Nashville for defensemen. Ottawa, Columbus, or maybe Florida for a top 9 forward that has a different dimension to his game than the Oilers forwards.

 

[10Ducky10]

RNH for Jones
Yak + Schultz for Hamonic
Sign Byguglien

Byfuglien/Hamonic
Sekera/Jones
Klefbom/Nurse
Davidson

Buff is a RHD and so is Hamonic.

What would the Jets get for Myers without Eberle in a deal?

 

[rasarhdasd]

Myers isn't very good. Nothing more than a bad second-pairing guy.

 

[McDrai]

Buff is a RHD and so is Hamonic.

What would the Jets get for Myers without Eberle in a deal?

Well you could do 3 good pairings then:

Sekera/Byfuglien
Klefbom/Hamonic
Nurse/Jones

And I'm not sure. Not really a fan of Myers to be honest

 

[McDeathbyCheerios*]

Maybe a change of scenary trade involving RNH and RyJo?

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

Those trades are all brutal for Edmonton. If the 1st we deal is Puljujarvi, that would hurt so bad considering Andersen hasn't been a world beater this season, and that's the least bad.

Eberle for Gudbranson? Yikes.
RNH for Severson? Double yikes.

Bottom six now has zero scoring ability and also your hedging the bet that Byfuglien would even come here, and if it's not for 2 years at 8M per then it's a dumb bet and deal.

I know they're panic trades but we've been saying we need to get bigger an tougher for literally 3 years.

If we sell low we sell low but we need guys who are willing and capable of playing a forecheck and crashing the net.

 

[FunkyChicken]

Maybe a change of scenary trade involving RNH and RyJo?

Big RNH fan due to his versatility, but if you are a team in the western conference and can acquire a 6'3" right handed true number one center, you have to make that trade.

I'd then stack the top 2 lines and roll with:
Hall-RyJo-Draisaitl
Pouliot-McDavid-Eberle/Yak

 

[McShiva]

With my apologies to Mr Lowetide, the concept of having 3 unicorn lines just isn't realistic. Too much talent for 2 lines, not enough for 3, and too much of the same thing, and not enough of anything else.

I love RNH, because he is assigned to fill a big role on the team, the tough minutes against the other teams top line (something a lot of people are missing here) but it really it is his size and strength that is sticking out. I would do that RyJo trade, but it's also with the knowledge that we could end up regretting it as well. The extra dimension and added flexibility RyJo would bring beyond what RNH would be a risk worth taking.

I think if the Oilers do add size, it would be with the top 2 lines stacked, with the right winger being more of the "tougher to play against" kind. Add to that McDavid/Drai contracts, it looks like Ebs will be the one going.

We replace RNH and Ebs with a much more physical center, a vet defense man that we can slot into the number 2 role right now, and 2nd pair in a year or two. Add a piece or two at free agent time to add more size and 200 foot play, this team is in very good shape for a playoff run next season.

It really does take time, and people who are screaming for a trade (and rightfully so) should note that there has been far less trades this year so far than previous seasons, only one (and of little note) in a couple months in fact.

 

[McShogun99]

With my apologies to Mr Lowetide, the concept of having 3 unicorn lines just isn't realistic. Too much talent for 2 lines, not enough for 3, and too much of the same thing, and not enough of anything else.

I love RNH, because he is assigned to fill a big role on the team, the tough minutes against the other teams top line (something a lot of people are missing here) but it really it is his size and strength that is sticking out. I would do that RyJo trade, but it's also with the knowledge that we could end up regretting it as well. The extra dimension and added flexibility RyJo would bring beyond what RNH would be a risk worth taking.

I think if the Oilers do add size, it would be with the top 2 lines stacked, with the right winger being more of the "tougher to play against" kind. Add to that McDavid/Drai contracts, it looks like Ebs will be the one going.

We replace RNH and Ebs with a much more physical center, a vet defense man that we can slot into the number 2 role right now, and 2nd pair in a year or two. Add a piece or two at free agent time to add more size and 200 foot play, this team is in very good shape for a playoff run next season.

It really does take time, and people who are screaming for a trade (and rightfully so) should note that there has been far less trades this year so far than previous seasons, only one (and of little note) in a couple months in fact.

I think it would be best to stack 2 lines, then have a 3rd/4th line of role players/rookies/aggressive players. It would mean trading one of Eberle/Yakupov (preferably Eberle due to his cap hit and greater trade value), trading some LD for RD (that means trading 1 or 2 of Nurse, Klefbom, Davidson, Reinhart), finding a LW with size/grit for the Mcdavid line and hoping 1 of Talbot/Nilsson take the reins as starter, if not then acquiring a veteran starting goalie.

Hall-RNH-Draisaitl
xxx-Mcdavid-Yakupov
Pouliot-xxx-xxx
Hendricks-Letestu-xxx

Sekera-xxx
Klefbom-xxx
Nurse-xxx

In this situation the trade bait with some value would be Eberle, Davidson, Reinhart and the 1st.

 

[Jet Walters]

Hall Drai Purcell
Kreider McDavid Zibanejad
Pouliot Lander Lazar
Hendy Letestu Korpi

Klefbom Hamonic
Nurse Sekera
Davidson Vatanen

Nilsson/Talbot

RNH for Zibanejad and Lazar

Eberle plus 3rd for Kreider and Klein

Klein, Reinhart, Simpson, 2017 2nd for Bogosian

Bogosian, Chase for Hamonic

Yak, 2016 1st for Vatanen, ANA 2nd 2016

Schultz (50% retained) for a 4th

Replace Purcell with a UFA like Brouwer this summer.

 

[VainGretzky]

Hall Drai Purcell
Kreider McDavid Zibanejad
Pouliot Lander Lazar
Hendy Letestu Korpi

Klefbom Hamonic
Nurse Sekera
Davidson Vatanen

Nilsson/Talbot

RNH for Zibanejad and Lazar

Eberle plus 3rd for Kreider and Klein

Klein, Reinhart, Simpson, 2017 2nd for Bogosian

Bogosian, Chase for Hamonic

Yak, 2016 1st for Vatanen, ANA 2nd 2016

Schultz (50% retained) for a 4th

Replace Purcell with a UFA like Brouwer this summer.

More trades there then there will be to start next season entire NHL

 

[Jet Walters]

More trades there then there will be to start next season entire NHL

Avatar bet on that?

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Hall Drai Purcell
Kreider McDavid Zibanejad
Pouliot Lander Lazar
Hendy Letestu Korpi

Klefbom Hamonic
Nurse Sekera
Davidson Vatanen

Nilsson/Talbot

RNH for Zibanejad and Lazar

Eberle plus 3rd for Kreider and Klein

Klein, Reinhart, Simpson, 2017 2nd for Bogosian

Bogosian, Chase for Hamonic

Yak, 2016 1st for Vatanen, ANA 2nd 2016

Schultz (50% retained) for a 4th

Replace Purcell with a UFA like Brouwer this summer.

All of those trades yet Lander is our 3C, we have the same 2 goalies that have been hit or miss this season and Purcell is still here in the hopes of landing a big ticket UFA.

I also think that it's wishful thinking to make the 2 Bogo trades, it'd make more sense for it to just be a 3 way deal IMO.

I haven't seen Ottawa enough to have an opinion of the RNH trade but why does NYR do the Kreider deal? And if they do, why do we keep Pouliot at $4 million?

 

[VainGretzky]

Avatar bet on that?

Never would you see that many big names move in a season. Put down your nhl 16

 

[Jet Walters]

All of those trades yet Lander is our 3C, we have the same 2 goalies that have been hit or miss this season and Purcell is still here in the hopes of landing a big ticket UFA.

I also think that it's wishful thinking to make the 2 Bogo trades, it'd make more sense for it to just be a 3 way deal IMO.

I haven't seen Ottawa enough to have an opinion of the RNH trade but why does NYR do the Kreider deal? And if they do, why do we keep Pouliot at $4 million?

I've seen Rangers fans who like that deal on the mains. Mostly because they could really use another right shoot scorer. Stepan and Fast are the only Rangers RHS. Pouliot is still a good player and when injuries happen it would be a good thing to have a player like him to insert into the top 6, much like Zibanejad is a natural center and could fill in there if McDavid or Drai miss any time.

Three way deal is essentially what bringing Hamonic in would have to be.

I still have faith Lander can turn things around. His overall game has been just fine aside from his lack of offensive production. With the right linemates he will be fine. Maybe target Eriksson as a UFA and roll these duos- Hall/Drai, McDavid/Kreider, Eriksson/Lander. Use Lazar, Pouliot, Slepyshev/Pakarinen/Khaira to fill in the top 9.

 

[Jet Walters]

Never would you see that many big names move in a season. Put down your nhl 16

In the last 9 months their have been many big names move.

Top 6 forwards or top 4 D moved- Kane, Myers, Bogosian, Lucic, Kessel, Hamilton, O'Reilly, Sharp, Daley, Oshie, Brouwer, Saad, Anisimov, Bieksa. There's a baker's dozen off the top of my head.

 

[McSuper]

RNH for Jones
Yak + Schultz for Hamonic
Sign Byguglien

Byfuglien/Hamonic
Sekera/Jones
Klefbom/Nurse
Davidson

I like the D but the are not in the right order

Sekera / Byfuglien
Klefbom / Hamonic or Jones
Nurse / Jones
Davidson / Reinhart

RHD on their side . LHD on their side