Rumor: Trade Rumors and Proposals: Will Chia get us an Xmas gift?

[Narnia]

Hall Drai Purcell
Kreider McDavid Zibanejad
Pouliot Lander Lazar
Hendy Letestu Korpi

Klefbom Hamonic
Nurse Sekera
Davidson Vatanen

Nilsson/Talbot

RNH for Zibanejad and Lazar

Eberle plus 3rd for Kreider and Klein

Klein, Reinhart, Simpson, 2017 2nd for Bogosian

Bogosian, Chase for Hamonic

Yak, 2016 1st for Vatanen, ANA 2nd 2016

Schultz (50% retained) for a 4th

Replace Purcell with a UFA like Brouwer this summer.

The bolded is the biggest problem the Oilers have. Changing half the team every season is why the Oilers won't improve. Until the team has minimal changes every season, the Oilers will continue to flounder near the bottom of the standings.

Successful team don't change half the team every season.

 

[McFlyingV]

The bolded is the biggest problem the Oilers have. Changing half the team every season is why the Oilers won't improve. Until the team has minimal changes every season, the Oilers will continue to flounder near the bottom of the standings.

Successful team don't change half the team every season.

True, but successful teams don't have MacT's deadweight left to lug around and don't have abysmal drafting that leaves the team with hardly any internal options to replace deadweight players. There will have to be turnover on at least 4 or 5 players on this team, especially on the backend. Nikitin, Fayne, Schultz, and maybe Gryba need to be replaced with competent dmen. The forward group needs some tweaking as well.

I think in the offseason signing a few free agents and making a couple trades (one of which will probably need to include a "core" (by MacT's definition) player on the move).

 

[Jet Walters]

The bolded is the biggest problem the Oilers have. Changing half the team every season is why the Oilers won't improve. Until the team has minimal changes every season, the Oilers will continue to flounder near the bottom of the standings.

Successful team don't change half the team every season.

Oilers have been changing the wrong half in the last number of year. Changing the top end of the roster is what needs to be done to have meaningful change.

 

[backhandsauce]

Wideman for Schultz. Would you?

 

[McWeber]

Wideman for Schultz. Would you?

No question. If we put Wideman in Schultz's spot our powerplay would be so much better alone. It sucks to take the cap hit for next year but **** it we will plenty of space and hes a veteran RH shot who put up 50 points last year (not that we could expect that kind of production) would also mean Schultz on the Flames....that in itself is a win even if they waive him after 3 games.

 

[Narnia]

Wideman for Schultz. Would you?

Absolutely not. Want nothing to do with players from the Shames.

 

[gqmixmaster]

I'd give Marc Andre-Bergeron another chance over Schultz if there was the choice

 

[Aerchon]

Lol some of these comments.

Schultz is better than Bergeron, slightly but way worse than Wideman.

 

[McShogun99]

Wideman for Schultz. Would you?

In a second. He's everything Schultz dreams of being. He is an actual PP specialist and he shoots right.

 

[FunkyChicken]

RNH for Jones
Yak + Schultz for Hamonic
Sign Byguglien

Byfuglien/Hamonic
Sekera/Jones
Klefbom/Nurse
Davidson

I don't see Schultz as having any value. Maybe at 50% salary retention. Still, not even close for Hamonic.

Jones is a bit of a gamble at this point but I can see the move from both side.

However, by signing Byfuglien, he alone gives you a decent top 4 (I'm assuming Nurse will be more ready for that role next year) with a Nurse-Byfuglien and Klefbolm-Sekara pairing. Davidson and Gryba would be tolerable with low minutes.
Nikitin walks and his salary goes to Klefbolm's raise.
Schultz walks and Ference and Fayne are bought out, goes to Byfuglien's salary.

 

[Jumptheshark]

I don't see Schultz as having any value. Maybe at 50% salary retention. Still, not even close for Hamonic.

Jones is a bit of a gamble at this point but I can see the move from both side.

However, by signing Byfuglien, he alone gives you a decent top 4 (I'm assuming Nurse will be more ready for that role next year) with a Nurse-Byfuglien and Klefbolm-Sekara pairing. Davidson and Gryba would be tolerable with low minutes.
Nikitin walks and his salary goes to Klefbolm's raise.
Schultz walks and Ference and Fayne are bought out, goes to Byfuglien's salary.

You do realize that part of both Fayne's and Ference's buy will count agaist the cap and all indications are the oilers will carry over about 3mill in overage due to bonuses next season

 

[McHaNugYakEbNurDra]

You do realize that part of both Fayne's and Ference's buy will count agaist the cap and all indications are the oilers will carry over about 3mill in overage due to bonuses next season

Unless there are changes to the current lineup before the end of this season, I don't see the Oilers having any cap overage carried over to next season. The majority of their bonuses won't be met (even McDavid's who I thought was a foregone conclusion before the season started, are now in doubt....though Leon's who I thought wouldn't be paid now are much more likely to be).

 

[K1984]

Lol some of these comments.

Schultz is better than Bergeron, slightly but way worse than Wideman.

I'll take Bergeron all day over Schultz. At least Bergeron was good on the PP.

 

[McShogun99]

I don't see Schultz as having any value. Maybe at 50% salary retention. Still, not even close for Hamonic.

Jones is a bit of a gamble at this point but I can see the move from both side.

However, by signing Byfuglien, he alone gives you a decent top 4 (I'm assuming Nurse will be more ready for that role next year) with a Nurse-Byfuglien and Klefbolm-Sekara pairing. Davidson and Gryba would be tolerable with low minutes.
Nikitin walks and his salary goes to Klefbolm's raise.
Schultz walks and Ference and Fayne are bought out, goes to Byfuglien's salary.

Our window to trade Schultz for maximum value was sometime between the day we signed him as a UFA to the end of his rookie season. Since then his play has driven his value down to something between David Clarkson to a bag of pucks.

 

[Philly85*]

Yeah you're getting absolutely **** all for Schultz. What a disaster that turned out to be. I remember watching him the AHL and thinking he could be a Kris Letang type player. Unbelievable how badly things turned out.

 

[PKSpecialist]

Wow, just looked at the Tampa Bay Lightning's contract situation. That team is in trouble.

The only thing they have going for them is a pretty good pipeline to replenish some of the players they are going to have to let go.

Stamkos and Coburn are the only UFA's of serious consequence after this season, but they have 10 players on their active roster up for RFA following the season including Kucherov, Killorn, Brown, Paquette and Nesterov. Some of these guys will be up for significant raises, and they have Bishop and Hedman going into UFA the following year, at the same time as Johnson, Palat, Drouin, Sustr and Vasilevsky go to RFA.

Somethings going to give in Tampa. How great would it be if they gave Stamkos a huge deal to stay the face of the franchise, and that shook Hedman free to the trade market.

On a side note, what happened to Matt Carle? 30 games, 0 points, averaging 17 minutes a night and making 5.5 million for two years past this one. I know he got overpaid on the contract at the time, but he was certainly a better player than this. Does he just need a change of scenery? He's only 31 years old.

 

[TheRebuild]

I'll take Bergeron all day over Schultz. At least Bergeron was good on the PP.

Major difference between the two, MAB's slapshot was 100+ mph, while Schultz's is so slow, it doesn't even trigger the speed gun. Elderly people in the background, walking around the rink, can be seen overtaking his shot.

 

[sepHF]

I'll take Bergeron all day over Schultz. At least Bergeron was good on the PP.

sad but true, at least MAB was kind of useful in a role

 

[Up the Irons]

Oilers have been changing the wrong half in the last number of year. Changing the top end of the roster is what needs to be done to have meaningful change.

Thank you. They went all-in with a smurf top 6, and it has NEVER worked. A player like RNH would be effective on a big team, not unlike Kreidji on Boston. But the Oil absolutely NEED to get harder to play against.

RNH will be the first bold move.

 

[Up the Irons]

I'll take Bergeron all day over Schultz. At least Bergeron was good on the PP.

Fosho. MAB at least had an NHL slapper , and was positionally competent.

 

[Throttlehead]

Wow, just looked at the Tampa Bay Lightning's contract situation. That team is in trouble.

The only thing they have going for them is a pretty good pipeline to replenish some of the players they are going to have to let go.

Stamkos and Coburn are the only UFA's of serious consequence after this season, but they have 10 players on their active roster up for RFA following the season including Kucherov, Killorn, Brown, Paquette and Nesterov. Some of these guys will be up for significant raises, and they have Bishop and Hedman going into UFA the following year, at the same time as Johnson, Palat, Drouin, Sustr and Vasilevsky go to RFA.

Somethings going to give in Tampa. How great would it be if they gave Stamkos a huge deal to stay the face of the franchise, and that shook Hedman free to the trade market.

On a side note, what happened to Matt Carle? 30 games, 0 points, averaging 17 minutes a night and making 5.5 million for two years past this one. I know he got overpaid on the contract at the time, but he was certainly a better player than this. Does he just need a change of scenery? He's only 31 years old.

I'm pretty sure they would trade Stamkos before letting Hedman go, quite honestly Hedman is more important to the team.

 

[McCombo]

I'm pretty sure they would trade Stamkos before letting Hedman go, quite honestly Hedman is more important to the team.

Stamkos has full NMC/NTC, if he doesnt want to get traded they are forced to let him walk for free. Or sign him into huge deal which will cripple to team...

 

[Pointteen]

Stamkos has full NMC/NTC, if he doesnt want to get traded they are forced to let him walk for free. Or sign him into huge deal which will cripple to team...

Stamkos' contract was the least compromised one to exist for a star player.
He took as much money as possible and term to take him to free agency and a NMC. He gets precisely what he wants. He'll do the same thing again.

 

[Ritchie Valens]

This article was posted on TSN this morning by Frank Seravalli. About three-quarters down the page, he writes Poile has contacted Chiarelli about the cost to acquire RNH.

http://www.tsn.ca/mondaymustread-benn-looking-like-a-reincarnation-of-lindros-in-his-prime-1.412341

 

[Jumptheshark]

This article was posted on TSN this morning by Frank Seravalli. About three-quarters down the page, he writes Poile has contacted Chiarelli about the cost to acquire RNH.

http://www.tsn.ca/mondaymustread-benn-looking-like-a-reincarnation-of-lindros-in-his-prime-1.412341

main trade board is saying the oilers add to any deal for Jones--I disagree

I would be willing to do a one for one deal--I am not willing to add