Rumor: Trade Rumors and Proposals Thread XXV: Season over. Still waiting to begin...

[Oilking83]

That depends, do I get a no movement clause?



I wasn't aware that people on their RFA years couldn't have one, that's news to me.

A player can only have a ntc during ufa years.

 

[Moonlapse Vertigo]

I see it as a very big deal, if your best players don't have them, then why should Gagner? Do we want to be the Flames when it comes to NMC's? If we decide to move the player and we can't how does that help the team?

I think if Gagner lowers the $$$ amount on his demands then I have no problem with him getting a NMC. Before all this tanking nonsense he was supposed to be one of the faces of this franchise. He was supposed to be one of the offensive catalysts on this club. Over the six seasons since he's seen nothing but losing but he's arguably become one of the leaders on this team and he's also a commodity that we have precious little of: a veteran (yes, a veteran) that actually produces.

EDIT: And he stays healthy for the most part. I can't believe that he has 414 NHL games under his belt already. Ridiculous.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

I'm getting starved for rumours...

I want to see more trades and action!

 

[Bryanbryoil]

A player can only have a ntc during ufa years.

IIRC Hall had 3 UFA years on his deal yet no NTC from what I recall.

 

[misfit]

So pretend you're florida and McKinnon is off the board.

Would you rather:
draft Jones, and be happy with Kulikov, Gubrandtson, and Jones on the backend
draft Barkov/Drouin and be happy with your current D
draft Jones, trade Kulikov for the 7th pick, and draft whomever is left there (Monahan, Nish. or Lindholm)
draft barkov/drouin, trade Kulikov to us for the 7th pick, and draft zardorov/nurse

Option 1 for me. Kulikov, Gudbranson, and Jones are 3 defensemen. Last I checked, teams usually had 6 dressed for every game.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

I think if Gagner lowers the $$$ amount on his demands then I have no problem with him getting a NMC. Before all this tanking nonsense he was supposed to be one of the faces of this franchise. He was supposed to be one of the offensive catalysts on this club. Over the six seasons since he's seen nothing but losing but he's arguably become one of the leaders on this team and he's also a commodity that we have precious little of: a veteran (yes, a veteran) that actually produces.

EDIT: And he stays healthy for the most part. I can't believe that he has 414 NHL games under his belt already. Ridiculous.

NMC's IMO are a no go, Horcoff ruined that as far as I'm concerned. A NTC or preferably a limited NTC for the right player under the right circumstances I could live with.

 

[McDoused]

I'm getting starved for rumours...

I want to see more trades and action!

Only one trade today, yet we managed to get 30 pages of talk. That has to be a record or something...

Imagine what draft day will be like.

 

[Paralyzer008]

I'm worried

 

[Mcnofool6110]

I'm worried

I am too.

I've got faith SmacT won't trade our 7th and RNH for Gardiner, then again, I don't want him trading our 7th for Phaneuf or something dumb like that.

Grghagh.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

I'm worried

Somebody hold me I'm scared

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

I am too.

I've got faith SmacT won't trade our 7th and RNH for Gardiner, then again, I don't want him trading our 7th for Phaneuf or something dumb like that.

Grghagh.

I don't think even Feaster would make that trade.

People here are getting paranoid.

 

[Archangel]

Those of you who are scared are scared because you bought into Mact's hoopla about doing trades and then got trolled by a poster who said he had a source, only to have Mact back track yesterday on his statement about deals and saying he is looking for the right deal

 

[Paralyzer008]

Those of you who are scared are scared because you bought into Mact's hoopla about doing trades and then got trolled by a poster who said he had a source, only to have Mact back track yesterday on his statement about deals and saying he is looking for the right deal

No, I was one of was saying I didn't believe in those whatsoever.

I'm worried that MacT does something for the sake of doing something. I'm worried that teams see that Edmonton is in a vulnerable position and try to cheap us on a trade.

 

[tv14]

Gagner + 7th for Edler + 24th.
Hemsky for Smith.
2nd + 3rd + Musil for Bolland.
2nd for Peverley/Clutterbuck.

Sign Stalberg, Lecavalier, Bryzgalov.

Hall-Lecavalier-Eberle
Stalberg-RNH-Yakupov
Paajarvi-Bolland-Peverley/Clutterbuck
Petrell-Smtih-Brown

Edler-Schultz
Smid-Petry
Schultz-Belov/Klefbom

Dubnyk/Bryzgalov

 

[Paralyzer008]

Gagner + 7th for Edler + 24th.
Hemsky for Smith.
2nd + 3rd + Musil for Bolland.
2nd for Peverley.

Sign Stalberg, Lecavalier, Bryzgalov.

Hall-Lecavalier-Eberle
Stalberg-RNH-Yakupov
Paajarvi-Bolland-Peverley
Petrell-Smtih-Brown

Edler-Schultz
Smid-Petry
Schultz-Belov/Klefbom

Dubnyk/Bryzgalov

I like it, but 1) We don't have a 3rd rounder 2) Still have to deal Horcoff 3) Petrell=Hell no and 4) Bryzgalov? Let's go Khudobin

Maybe hold off on the Bolland deal because that's a bit much in my mind, we can find a different No.3 C.

 

[Joey Moss]

My dream off-season with all of this stuff going around..

EDM: Phaneuf and Colborne
TOR: Gagner

OTT: Hemsky, Jones' rights
EDM: Greening and Smith

MIN: Pitlick, ANA 2nd
EDM: Clutterbuck

Horcoff anywhere..

Sign: Lecavalier - 4 years, 4.5M per
Sign: Khudobin - 2 years, 1.5M per

Hall - Lecavalier - Eberle
Greening - RNH - Yakupov
Paajarvi - Smith - Clutterbuck
Smyth - Colborne - Brown

Phaneuf - Schultz
Smid - Petry
Klefbom/Belov - Schultz
Klefbom/Belov/N. Schultz

Dubnyk
Khudobin

 

[poetryingasoline]

I want some crazy trade that will kick the NHL in the ball(s) and get this show on the road. This is booooooring!

 

[smackdaddy]

No, I was one of was saying I didn't believe in those whatsoever.

I'm worried that MacT does something for the sake of doing something. I'm worried that teams see that Edmonton is in a vulnerable position and try to cheap us on a trade.

I dunno. MacT already hung up on quite a few GMs who initially inquired about the 7th according to his presser. I have no reason he still wouldn't be. It's not like he feels he has a reputation to live up to. He's doing what he can to make us better.

Not easy to make a trade. You gotta be a slick salesman.

 

[tv14]

I like it, but 1) We don't have a 3rd rounder 2) Still have to deal Horcoff 3) Petrell=Hell no and 4) Bryzgalov? Let's go Khudobin

Maybe hold off on the Bolland deal because that's a bit much in my mind, we can find a different No.3 C.

-Didn't know we didn't have a 3rd, perhaps they would take a 4th or 3rd next year?
-Ya, not sure about Horcoff. I wonder if Detroit would do Colaicavo for Horcoff, and we proceed to buy Colaicavo out.
-Ya, we could prob find someone better than Petrell, I just quickly threw him in there while I was doing this. But I don't think he is terrible.
-I think Bryz and Dubnyk would be a good tandem honestly. But, ya Khudobin would be ok too, as he is younger and would give us two youngish goalies.

 

[Joey Moss]

I just watched the McKenzie segment on NHL network and nothing was said about Gagner at all.

 

[Paralyzer008]

I'd honestly be happy if Edmonton walked out of draft day making only two trades:

Nick Schultz to Carolina for a 3rd or 4th round pick
Zbynek Michalek to Edmonton for Tyler Pitlick + 2nd rounder (or maybe Michalek for Horcoff, with Horcoff retained at 4M)

Then keep talks up from July 1-4 and make your deals in between then.

Meanwhile, our D starting to take shape:

BLANK-Schultz
Smid-Petry
Michalek-Belov
Potter/Klefbom

 

[Groucho]

I am too.

I've got faith SmacT won't trade our 7th and RNH for Gardiner, then again, I don't want him trading our 7th for Phaneuf or something dumb like that.

Grghagh.

I think if something dumb was going to happen, like a package revolving around 7th for Homophobic Sluroof was going to happen, it already would have.



knock on wood.

 

[Pablo Aimar]

It would be really tremendous if Mac-T could somehow sell Lecavalier on the idea of playing between Yakupov and Hall on an upcoming team. It won't happen but it would be just ****ing awesome.

 

[Thomas Tatar]

sooooo bored.... yet I can't help checking this site like every five minutes.

 

[Usual_Suspect]

-Didn't know we didn't have a 3rd, perhaps they would take a 4th or 3rd next year?
-Ya, not sure about Horcoff. I wonder if Detroit would do Colaicavo for Horcoff, and we proceed to buy Colaicavo out.
-Ya, we could prob find someone better than Petrell, I just quickly threw him in there while I was doing this. But I don't think he is terrible.
-I think Bryz and Dubnyk would be a good tandem honestly. But, ya Khudobin would be ok too, as he is younger and would give us two youngish goalies.

We don't have a 4th either.