Rumor: Trade Rumors and Proposals Thread XXV: Season over. Still waiting to begin...

[Oil In My Veins]

Not sure if this has been posted:

Chris Nichols ‏@Nichols_NHLPool
Sources tell @RobRossi_Trib that #Pens offered Kris Letang an eight-year deal worth around $54 million with a response wanted by weekend.

Edit: that's 6.75 per

Edit #2: Sources also tell @RobRossi_Trib #Pens are agreeable to paying Letang slightly over $7M annually.

 

[Canovin]

Just the thought of Lecavalier to the Oilers.. oh lord and if we draft Monahan. Can you imagine?

Hall-Lecavalier-Yakupov
X-RNH-Eberle
MPS-*Monahan*-X

 

[Oil In My Veins]

Chris Nichols ‏@Nichols_NHLPool 59s
If Kris Letang trade were needed, #Pens prefer Western partner and are intrigued by prospects w/ #Canucks and #NHLDucks. Via @RobRossi_Trib

 

[Oilfan2]

Just the thought of Lecavalier to the Oilers.. oh lord and if we draft Monahan. Can you imagine?

Hall-Lecavalier-Yakupov
X-RNH-Eberle
MPS-*Monahan*-X

More like...

Hall-Lecavalier-Eberle
Nichurskin-RNH-Yakupov

Gagner + for top 4 D...

 

[McQuixote]

Dreger speculating that teams are willing to give Lecavalier a 3 year term that approaches 5M per season. He believes that Lecavalier wants more term.

So, Oiler Fans, would you offer Lecavalier 5 x 5?

Yup, if that's what it took to get him here.

I mean, I don't watch the Lightning enough so I'd probably give some people who do a call and talk a bit about TB's problems and what role Lecavalier played behind the scenes that led to such crappy regular seasons despite such powerful talent up front.

But aside from due diligence, he seems like something this team (and many others) could desperately need.

The problem with Lecavalier wasn't his salary, it was his term. So any deal that shaves off term as well as cap figure makes him a lot more attractive.

So 5x5 for a guy who's going to push 30 goals and 60 points for at least the next couple seasons while adding some strength and gumption up the middle?

That's easy.

But I'd rather give him a 3 year term that approaches 6 million a season. Maybe even exceeds it.

I think that's what Toronto will do.

 

[McDrai]

Hall/Lecavalier/Yakupov
Nichushkin/RNH/Eberle
Paajarvi/Bolland/Clutterbuck
Greening/Smith/Brown

 

[Archangel]

Vinny to one of Detroit, TO or Montreal. Sounds like the wings will go all in

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

Giving Vinny a 4/5 year deal is a disaster waiting to happen. I'd offer him 2 years 6 mil per. That way his contract expires at the same time as Yakupov's ELC.

 

[OilerTyler]

It's interesting seeing people pencilling our 7th overall pick into next year's lineup.

I'd be really disappointed if our team is bad enough at the start of the season that we need to rush another rookie onto it.

 

[Archangel]

Giving Vinny a 4/5 year deal is a disaster waiting to happen. I'd offer him 2 years 6 mil per. That way his contract expires at the same time as Yakupov's ELC.

Rumour on line is Detroit will be offering a 6 year deal for around 5 a year

 

[Wheathead]

It's interesting seeing people pencilling our 7th overall pick into next year's lineup.

I'd be really disappointed if our team is bad enough at the start of the season that we need to rush another rookie onto it.

I've been saying that for a while.

I guess this board has been spoiled in that our draft picks have been impact players right away... That'll happen when you're a serial first picking club.

 

[sOiled]

Anyone wasting their time penciling Vinny into the Oilers line-up is living in the same fantasy world that Feaster seems to spend the majority of his time in.

 

[caley]

Did anybody catch what McKenzie said on TSN? I was supposed to be talking to someone and kind of trying to pay attention to what they were saying while listening to the TV, but the gist of it was "MacTavish is the one to watch this week. If rumors are true about what he's trying to accomplish, he might be able to give his scouts Sunday off and he'd do it with a smile." Did anybody else hear that?

 

[Eskie Jetski]

Did anybody catch what McKenzie said on TSN? I was supposed to be talking to someone and kind of trying to pay attention to what they were saying while listening to the TV, but the gist of it was "MacTavish is the one to watch this week. If rumors are true about what he's trying to accomplish, he might be able to give his scouts Sunday off and he'd do it with a smile." Did anybody else hear that?

I caught that too, didn't the Islanders trade away all their picks a couple years back? Maybe Craig will attempt to pull off some Herschel Walker type move at the draft with our 2013 picks. Let's hope such a move won't end up like it did with the Vikings.

 

[doubledown99]

Did anybody catch what McKenzie said on TSN? I was supposed to be talking to someone and kind of trying to pay attention to what they were saying while listening to the TV, but the gist of it was "MacTavish is the one to watch this week. If rumors are true about what he's trying to accomplish, he might be able to give his scouts Sunday off and he'd do it with a smile." Did anybody else hear that?

Yeah he said that MacT with all things being equal would rather have a player that's already established and be able to contribute next year and make the team better. He then said in fact he probably would have no issue giving his entire scouting group the day off if he could and add pieces that would help next season.

We all know this....the issue is who is willing to give up piece(s) that are equal value but already established?

I'm sure MacT would love to add Hartnell, Coburn, etc and move the picks but will those teams be willing to?

Maybe teams against cap might but that is the big question

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Bob Stauffer ‏@Bob_Stauffer 1m
I am told the 'Hawks are looking for a Pominvile-like return for Bolland

Which was;
Hackett, Larsson, 1st and 2nd.

If we give up that kind of a return for him then MacT should be fired on the spot. Pominville is a much more valuable player than Bolland is. This would amount to something like Musil, Marincin, 1st in '14 and 2nd this year or next for Bolland? How about **** no?!?!

 

[MetaOil1993]

If we give up that kind of a return for him then MacT should be fired on the spot. Pominville is a much more valuable player than Bolland is. This would amount to something like Musil, Marincin, 1st in '14 and 2nd this year or next for Bolland? How about **** no?!?!

Yup I would love to have Bolland here but at that price? **** off. They need to shed salary so its laughable at the price they want for Bolland.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Did anybody catch what McKenzie said on TSN? I was supposed to be talking to someone and kind of trying to pay attention to what they were saying while listening to the TV, but the gist of it was "MacTavish is the one to watch this week. If rumors are true about what he's trying to accomplish, he might be able to give his scouts Sunday off and he'd do it with a smile." Did anybody else hear that?

I don't mind moving picks to improve the team but not the 7th overall unless it is for an exceptional player signed at a reasonable rate for 4-5 seasons who also happens to be the type of player that we need in a position that we need. If we walk out drafting 7th or 5th overall and we deal every other pick that we have for immediate and actual help I'd be fine with that, but moving the 7th for anything other than a great asset that we desperately need would be seen as a major fail to me for the long term health of this team.

 

[caley]

Did anybody catch what McKenzie said on TSN? I was supposed to be talking to someone and kind of trying to pay attention to what they were saying while listening to the TV, but the gist of it was "MacTavish is the one to watch this week. If rumors are true about what he's trying to accomplish, he might be able to give his scouts Sunday off and he'd do it with a smile." Did anybody else hear that?

I found the video and transcribed the part about the Oilers

Well, I think in a perfect world, if Craig MacTavish is able to do the work he expects to do at this draft, the Edmonton Oilers are not picking with the seventh pick. In fact, if Craig MacTavish were able to give his scouts the day off for this draft, I think he'd consider it a good day's work done because that would mean that he would have traded a lot of these draft picks that he's got for more tangible assets that can help the Edmonton Oilers right in the here and now, as opposed to 2 or 3 years down the road. I really think the emphasis for Craig MacTavish and the Oilers is get better now. If they take the picks, that's great, but I think they'd rather have some warm live bodies that have played in the National Hockey League to help them out now.

 

[doubledown99]

If we give up that kind of a return for him then MacT should be fired on the spot. Pominville is a much more valuable player than Bolland is. This would amount to something like Musil, Marincin, 1st in '14 and 2nd this year or next for Bolland? How about **** no?!?!

I don't even know why we want an injury prone player. With all the injuries we have had for the last 6-7 years I thought Oiler fans would be smarter than that.

What use is a player that will play 30-60% of a season and may be out due to injury when you most need him.

Not surprised at all the Hawks are trying to move him. Smart management.

Oiler fans on the other hand....

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Yup I would love to have Bolland here but at that price? **** off. They need to shed salary so its laughable at the price they want for Bolland.

Exactly, that'd be like up against the cap saying that we want a Gaustad like return for Horcoff I guess they want to keep Bolland then unless of course Feaster is willing to pony up that kind of a return for him, I guess it's possible......

 

[Giggli G]

If we give up that kind of a return for him then MacT should be fired on the spot. Pominville is a much more valuable player than Bolland is. This would amount to something like Musil, Marincin, 1st in '14 and 2nd this year or next for Bolland? How about **** no?!?!

Yeah, that is completely ridiculous, Pominville is a 60-70 point gritty leader. Bolland is a 30 point injury prone centre.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

I found the video and transcribed the part about the Oilers:

Well, I think in a perfect world, if Craig MacTavish is able to do the work he expects to do at this draft, the Edmonton Oilers are not picking with the seventh pick. In fact, if Craig MacTavish were able to give his scouts the day off for this draft, I think he'd consider it a good day's work done because that would mean that he would have traded a lot of these draft picks that he's got for more tangible assets that can help the Edmonton Oilers right in the here and now, as opposed to 2 or 3 years down the road. I really think the emphasis for Craig MacTavish and the Oilers is get better now. If they take the picks, that's great, but I think they'd rather have some warm live bodies that have played in the National Hockey League to help them out now.

Again not drafting 5th or 7th or at least walking out with a Horvat or Lazar IMO would be a major fail here unless it's part of a package for a Seguin, Brayden Schenn, Couturier, etc. I haven't grown attached to our 2nds because I've always felt that at least one of them would be sacrificed for help in the present. That said you don't walk away from the 1st rounder unless you are getting an asset back that you simply cannot walk away from.

 

[SK13]

I don't mind moving picks to improve the team but not the 7th overall unless it is for an exceptional player signed at a reasonable rate for 4-5 seasons who also happens to be the type of player that we need in a position that we need. If we walk out drafting 7th or 5th overall and we deal every other pick that we have for immediate and actual help I'd be fine with that, but moving the 7th for anything other than a great asset that we desperately need would be seen as a major fail to me for the long term health of this team.

Any scenario in which the Oilers draft 7th, IMO, is a poor one for the Oilers.

It is, by far, the best and most expendable asset. It's something we don't need, no matter who's available (save the clear top-4, who won't be there) but can be used to secure legitimate NHL impact players.

Eberle, Hall, Nugent-Hopkins, Schultz and Yakupov will not be moved. Gagner will probably re-sign soon. This leaves you with Petry, Klefbom and an assortment of lesser assets to acquire two or three meaningful players. Not good enough.

He has to be aggressively hunting down an impact player for that pick.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

I don't even know why we want an injury prone player. With all the injuries we have had for the last 6-7 years I thought Oiler fans would be smarter than that.

What use is a player that will play 30-60% of a season and may be out due to injury when you most need him.

Not surprised at all the Hawks are trying to move him. Smart management.

Oiler fans on the other hand....

I wouldn't mind adding him on the cheap but sure as hell not for a 1st rounder let alone + + +

Yeah, that is completely ridiculous, Pominville is a 60-70 point gritty leader. Bolland is a 30 point injury prone centre.

Agreed it's not even close Pomiville is a much better player.