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My take is more like:
1. Trade before the deadline.
2. View as "our rental" and walks for nothing or is dealt as UFA rights for a mid-draft pick.
3. Re-signs for anything other than a massive discount.
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My take is more like:
1. Trade before the deadline.
2. View as "our rental" and walks for nothing or is dealt as UFA rights for a mid-draft pick.
3. Re-signs for anything other than a massive discount.
Unless I missed something, it was literally a 2 second thing. "If you were a betting man does MSL stay?" "Yeah I don't see a reason for them to move him".
How can anyone come on here and claim that the mcilrath pick was a bad decision, or even more outrageous, that he is a bust?
Defensemen, especially defensive defensemen, nearly always take a longer time to develop.
Furthermore, I find it amazing how some make these accusations before the kid has even had adequate time to play in the big leagues. "Bad decision"? Based on what? That he's not helping the big club already? Half you guys preach how you want this team to take a management approach that has future foresight but then you can't even exude a shred of patience for our prospects.
From what I remember, our scouts said he'd take 3-4 years to get into the NHL. Have we eclipsed that mark? No.
Don't preach for future planning if you can't deal with the process.
Defensemen, especially defensive defensemen, nearly always take a longer time to develop.
Furthermore, I find it amazing how some make these accusations before the kid has even had adequate time to play in the big leagues. "Bad decision"? Based on what? That he's not helping the big club already? Half you guys preach how you want this team to take a management approach that has future foresight but then you can't even exude a shred of patience for our prospects.
From what I remember, our scouts said he'd take 3-4 years to get into the NHL. Have we eclipsed that mark? No.
Don't preach for future planning if you can't deal with the process.
So now again, I bring up the notion that 6million today is roughly equal to what a 4.75-5.25 million per year player would have gotten at the time Drury signed his deal. And that 6 million today, 3 years from now, will be equal to what a 4million cap head is today. And yes percentage of the cap is what is important. Not the dollar amount
And Callahan's shoulder could be chronic, but he hasn't had setbacks or aggravations to it, hasn't missed time due to undisclosed injuries etc. maintenance
Lundqvist is arguably the best at his position in the world, consistently over the last 7 years or so and is the only truly elite player we have (McD on his way and Nash occasionally). That's why he got paid, over and out.
Drury was also a much better player than Callahan and Cally already looks like he's breaking down
BC a goalie alone doesn't get you into the playoffs. Its just not possible. You need a team around you. There is no way you can spin it, to realistically say that the goalie alone can carry a team into the playoffs. If you've played hockey or watched it your whole life. Its an absurd statement
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Gardner McKay
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You are saying the cap is going to increase 30-40% in 3 years? That is awfully high of a projection don't you think? That is only assuming Callahan is so generous to sign for 6 and not 6.5 or 6.75 million.
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RIP, Jimmy.
I haven't seen any one say he is a bust but you literally cannot argue that as of right now it looks as if we made the wrong decision. Fowler just played on team USA in the olympics. McIlrath can't even crack the NHL lineup at the moment.
And we are going on the 4 year mark my friend. That was in 2010. This is 2014.
Getting back to the topic and not beating a dead horse with the 2010 draft...That is a decision that may or may not set this franchise back. I believe signing Callahan would set this franchise back when he becomes deadweight in 3 years. I like Callahan. He is a good captain. But when you ask for 7 million a year as a 3rd liner... turns out I don't like you so much any more
How does the Sabres front office shakeup effect a potential Callahan contract? Was Lafontaine big on him or Murray, or perhaps ownership in general likes the idea.
I don't think he is breaking down. I don't think you can make that conclusion without jumping to conclusions.
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look at his play this season, he's not hitting like he used to, he's not scoring like he can, he's missing more and more games, etc. This is not going to get any better as he gets older.
Gardner McKay
RIP, Jimmy.
Which begs the question. Do other GM's see this as well? Do they view Callahan as some one who is going to break down? Im curious as to what his rental value is given his lack of production over the last 2 months.
Interesting note. We have had the best record in the NHL since December 22nd by a good amount. Only team with over a .700 win%. Callahan has played his least productive hockey in that time period.
I think the cap is going to keep increasing. every year. what it ends up being, I have no idea. I can't claim too. but we went from 45 million in 05-06, to a projected 70 million in 14-15. I don't know what it ends up being. But I think a 6 million salary today is equal to a 4million-5.25million (in the first few years of the cap system). And I think 6 million in salary today will be equal to what a 4million-5.25 million dollar player will get in a few years.
Thats just a gut feeling, but based upon the way the cap and player salaries have been rising, it'd say its fairly accurate. Im not a financial guy, a numbers guy, so I would not be the guy to tell what the % increases are as you highlighted above.
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which proves he's not as important as a lot of people seem to think.. Girardi, Mcdonagh, Nash has been a captain, there is leadership without Callahan in that locker room.
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Go look at his numbers and see how close he's been to breaking 30. its such a BS argument. he had 28, but thats not 30.. he had 26 goals in 70 games, but thats NOT 30
I understand how you feel about him not holding up health wise through the contract. But we don't know this. Drury developed a knee which started completely giving-out, thats so much different then callahan getting injured blocking shots or his shoulder popping out of its socket during a scrum... If drury didn't have such a bad knee, he would have been able to continue being a serviceable 3rd line player for any number of teams in the NHL. Drury had a chronically deterienting (sp) knee. It wasnt normal wear and tear, yet people automatically state with anything more then opinion, that Callahan is going to follow the same route.
Its kinda such a joke. We are ranger fans, we recently saw Drury break down, so that HAS to be whats gonna happen to Callahan. I mean look, he's been injured, the proof is there that its gonna be the same situation as Drury. Absolutes and extremes.
Very fond of those sarcastic faces aren't ya?
But If you are missing the point, he wasn't putting up 30 plus goals for a few seasons and then the last two he had problems not including last years shortened season he still only scored over 25 once... I know I know he was so close to 25 two other times. So more likely than not he isn't going to be all offensive minded with even more PP time.
Geesh man, no I'm actually doing to make fun of how everyone uses it here. Im being sarcastic about the sarcastic faces actually. But yeah anyway.
I can confidently say, I think Callahan is a 25-30 goal scorer.
Im done man, I cam here a couple weeks ago to make a stand on girardi and callahan. looks like they both may be resigned. Im happy, Ill keep reading the boards to enjoy the POVs of the some of the posters here I really respect. Otherwise, its like its own bizzaro world in here. Im making a joke about people and their sarcastic comments here and someone randomly says to me, I really like it. hahahaha man
1. Richards MUST be outta here next year, need amnesty buyout period.
If MSL is still fine coming here, no Richards (cannot re-sign with us after for less), then ok IF he drives down price during off season the way Nash did.
Also TB wants MDL for POs, so not seeing that at the deadline, though stranger things have happened.
In no scenario do I want to over fork top long term currency --- i.e., Skjei --- for MSL.
2. If he will let us, we can pay Cally and deal him later. We may have to eat 1mil plus for each year on his contract, but we would be offering somebody of value on a long term deal. This should be backup.
3. If no better offer, in theory sending Cally to Pens for Letang + conditional if Letang unable to play, moving that huge sal next year, (which, if we do not wanna keep, we then flip), would enable Pitt to sign Cally at Letang $$. That is a major yikes, but Letang/value would be substantial.
I'm NOT recommending this.
I'm saying this scenario -- where Pens pay most of that $ and offer line w/Sid + Geno --- should move Buf to consider a deal now.
My suggestion:
2014 1st + Cally, a throw in, for Pysyk.
We get Pysyk, who looks good and is already developed, to be our 1RD
If MSL is still fine coming here, no Richards (cannot re-sign with us after for less), then ok IF he drives down price during off season the way Nash did.
Also TB wants MDL for POs, so not seeing that at the deadline, though stranger things have happened.
In no scenario do I want to over fork top long term currency --- i.e., Skjei --- for MSL.
2. If he will let us, we can pay Cally and deal him later. We may have to eat 1mil plus for each year on his contract, but we would be offering somebody of value on a long term deal. This should be backup.
3. If no better offer, in theory sending Cally to Pens for Letang + conditional if Letang unable to play, moving that huge sal next year, (which, if we do not wanna keep, we then flip), would enable Pitt to sign Cally at Letang $$. That is a major yikes, but Letang/value would be substantial.
I'm NOT recommending this.
I'm saying this scenario -- where Pens pay most of that $ and offer line w/Sid + Geno --- should move Buf to consider a deal now.
My suggestion:
2014 1st + Cally, a throw in, for Pysyk.
We get Pysyk, who looks good and is already developed, to be our 1RD
I won't say I'm not worried but to call the pick a bust or mistake is a little bit premature.
Gardner McKay
RIP, Jimmy.
That is a 25 million increase over 10 seasons Not 3 years as you are saying. Then the cap dropped last year to 64.3 million ( I bet most didn't see that happening). Lockouts, global financial crisis, etc. A lot of things can have an impact on the salary cap. The way I see it is I am paying some one a % of the cap now and maybe if the cap is projected to rise next year then fine. It is still a reasonable amount of time. Signing some one to a contract based on what the cap may be in 4 years is a bit risky.
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All things considered, but I'd rather have Stastny at the number of 6 for 6 than Callahan, but I wouldn't give it to either one.
This better be hot air coming from Brooks' you know what
This better be hot air coming from Brooks' you know what
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