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Rumor: Trade Rumor/Speculation Thread XXVI: G Staying Put.

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GWOW said:
Ottawa is underachieving because Anderson has been horrid. They have a very strong core with depth. Some guys arent producing. Theres a rumor that Buffalo could possibly move Stewart and Moulson to Ottawa. How desperate are the Sens? They need a goalie.

Spezza is another option at center. Michalek plays RW. They can trade Brassard and Callahan to Ott. Maybe Talbot and Brassard for Spezza, then trade Callahan to Buffalo for Stewart and a draft pick.

Rangers need a big center.
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Spezza has looked like a shell of himself. He has lost a couple of step and is having an issue keeping up. Great PP player. I wouldn't move much for him.
 
Fitzy said:
You guys all like to talk about how selling high and buying low is important to sustain a good hockey team. But when a player in a slump like Eriksson, who scored 6-0+ points 4 straight years, becomes available, people can only talk about how he's "done' at age 28. A lot of you haven't been 28, I have. Life doesn't stop there. We have players producing well into their 40's, yet on hf a player is done once he gets on the other side of 30.
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Couldn't agree more with this post.
 
Well, if you need a #1 center, I retract my statement about the Blues being the favorites to now win the SC. :sarcasm:

Backes
Roy
Berglund

They obviously have no shot to win the cup...
 
Lindberg Cheese said:
Agree actually and those factors are cost, contract situation (controllability)' and position. Just because other teams have guys that can play the "opposite" side doesn't mean that we do. Even McD's transformation to the right of Suter was exposed vs Finland.
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Those aren't the factors I was referring to at all. The factors I was referring to were whether or not we have a GM who is more interested in Moore, how much we can improve our team by including him in a package versus holding him off the table, and whether we can find a bottom pair offensively minded lefty to slot into Moore's position should we deal him, thus making him not very missed. It's certainly easier to find a lefty with PP capabilities than a righty, so replacing Moore with a slightly older player with less upside, who already is at their developmental peak but adequately fills a bottom pair/PP specialist role makes us a better team than we would be for holding on to Moore due to his 'potential'.
 
silverfish said:
Interesting... He'd be a solid pickup no doubt. But is Stralman enough to get him now that G is locked up? I don't know...
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With St Louis adding Miller and Ott, I wouldn't be surprised if that made Anaheim more interested in Callahan. Vatanen + for Callahan. Move Stralman in a separate deal. Would TB be willing to move Connolly?

Callahan for Vatanen + 1st + conditional pick

Stralman for Connolly + 3rd
 
It's gonna take Callahan and Stralman to bring Vatenen back. That's not enough coming back the Rangers way. They have to get one of Etem/Smith-Pelly/Raekell for it to be fair value.
 
NYR Viper said:
Spezza has looked like a shell of himself. He has lost a couple of step and is having an issue keeping up. Great PP player. I wouldn't move much for him.
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Hes still an upgrade over anything they have. As much as I like Brassard its worth a gamble on Spezza or a center with size who can play 20 mins a night.

Going into the playoffs with Derek Stepan as their top center is disconcerting.
 
I still don't get the calls to to move Stralman. As I understand it, he's asking for very reasonable money. You want to sign those guys. There's no guarantee a prospect will be able to replace what he brings. And if a prospect does force his way into the lineup, you'll get a better return for a locked-up Stralman than a rental Stralman.
 
how about David Legwand.. he is an UFA and 33 years old...


anyone think Rangers would target him if Predators trade him??
 
Crease said:
I still don't get the calls to to move Stralman. As I understand it, he's asking for very reasonable money. You want to sign those guys. There's no guarantee a prospect will be able to replace what he brings. And if a prospect does force his way into the lineup, you'll get a better return for a locked-up Stralman than a rental Stralman.
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I like Stralman, but if they can turn him in to Vatanen, I'm on board.
 
jniklast said:
Who? Is Callahan now earning 7M and crazy?
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he's not earning 7M yet but thats what he wants. I can't see anaheim giving up anythin substantial for him, they aren't paying him that kind of money to keep him and they dont need him to compete with anyone in the west.
 
Crease said:
I still don't get the calls to to move Stralman. As I understand it, he's asking for very reasonable money. You want to sign those guys. There's no guarantee a prospect will be able to replace what he brings. And if a prospect does force his way into the lineup, you'll get a better return for a locked-up Stralman than a rental Stralman.
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I think McIlrath and Allen are close. Too much money tied up in the defense with him.

GWOW said:
Hes still an upgrade over anything they have. As much as I like Brassard its worth a gamble on Spezza or a center with size who can play 20 mins a night.

Going into the playoffs with Derek Stepan as their top center is disconcerting.
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He would have been


Lundsanity30 said:
why would Anaheim want a 7M dollar rental who has a screw loose in his head?
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Because they feel they can win? Selanne is gone after this year. They may need a RW. Fits their speed system.
 
Lundsanity30 said:
he's not earning 7M yet but thats what he wants. I can't see anaheim giving up anythin substantial for him, they aren't paying him that kind of money to keep him and they dont need him to compete with anyone in the west.
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They are going to need something to keep up with what other teams are adding.
 
Lundsanity30 said:
he's not earning 7M yet but thats what he wants. I can't see anaheim giving up anythin substantial for him, they aren't paying him that kind of money to keep him and they dont need him to compete with anyone in the west.
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Yes, but either he's a rental and his future demands are insignificant or he's no rental. I doubt Anaheim give up that package, but no need to say Cally has a screw loose.
 
NYR Viper said:
With St Louis adding Miller and Ott, I wouldn't be surprised if that made Anaheim more interested in Callahan. Vatanen + for Callahan. Move Stralman in a separate deal. Would TB be willing to move Connolly?

Callahan for Vatanen + 1st + conditional pick

Stralman for Connolly + 3rd
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Was thinking along the same lines for Anaheim. Does TB really need Stralman? Girardi I definitely could have seen.
White Plains Batman said:
It's gonna take Callahan and Stralman to bring Vatenen back. That's not enough coming back the Rangers way. They have to get one of Etem/Smith-Pelly/Raekell for it to be fair value.
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That's the beauty of an escalating arms race. A month ago, you might have been right. But St. Louis just threw down the gauntlet. Do you want to keep up, Anaheim? Well, it's gonna cost you...
 
Punxrocknyc19 said:
how about David Legwand.. he is an UFA and 33 years old...


anyone think Rangers would target him if Predators trade him??
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No. He honestly is not that good. We would have to give up very little to be getting him. No serious assets. If we are trading Callahan, which we should and most likely are, we need to find someone for the 3rd line RW who kills penalties and can play well even strength on the cheap side. Are they looking at Miller and seeing if he can right now? We cannot have all of Boyle, Dorsett, Carcillo, and Moore in the lineup unless injury. We will not be nearly as successful.
 
shinchanyo said:
So what happened with the whole Sather working the phones and burning the midnight oil schtick? Was it true or does it seem like bad info? ANy progress toward a deal?
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I think Sather is focused on bringing in St. Louis, could be wrong, but when the opportunity presents itself to change the dynamics of your top six with a St. Louis type player, you explore all your options to get it done. It's not as simple as a 1
for 1, could involve multiple teams and multiple players. Rangers need to find the right dance partners, not only for themselves, but for Tampa. Just hoping they find a way to get it done without having to give up to much.. Again, just my opinion..
 
Bleed Ranger Blue said:
Its this line of thinking that gets teams in trouble -- particularly the Rangers over the years
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Yep. You can only make smart moves that fit your team and make it better as a team. Arbitrarily adding players to combat additions in the conference/division without considering team chemistry and systems is reactionary and poor asset management.
 
I'll say this. If Callahan shows today that he's still the biggest Flyer-killer we have, it's hard for me to say I want to move him because they are looking more and more like the 1st round matchup.
 
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