Total cap savings trading both would be 10.75M. We can have two rookies at league minimum (Barron/Harris, Ylonen/RHP) making
about $1.75M replace them and give us $10M in spending money.
Where do I sign?
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about $1.75M replace them and give us $10M in spending money.
Where do I sign?
If word is true that Dallas is looking for a LH shot winger to replace Radulov, how about Hoffman for a 2nd, a B prospect and Khudobin dump?Kent Hughes is currently working on a possible trade involving Mike Hoffman
According to what the ever-reliable David Pagnotta (The Fourth Period) reports, we shouldn't be surprised if we learn, in thewww.habsfanatics.com
''According to what the ever-reliable David Pagnotta (The Fourth Period) reports, we shouldn't be surprised if we learn, in the next few hours, that Mike Hoffman has been traded by the Montreal Canadiens.''
...and I'd do it in blood just to make sure it sticks...
I would chalk it up as a huge win if KH ships the Hoff and Petry to Dallas for a 1st. Even if we take the dump
Khoudo cap hit is only $2.2M
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lol... I can relate. When I was a kid I got a few player signed photos... including Carbonneau and Roy.... all the players got traded shortly after I got their signature. I stop after lol
This Hoffman trade talk has caught me off guard. Don't see why we'd want to trade him now? Best time to trade him would be 23-24 season at the trade deadline when can retain like half the contract if needed to sweeten the deal.
We will need warm bodies on W, especially once we dump byron and drouin at the trade deadline (hopefully) in the upcoming season.
We will need warm bodies on W, especially once we dump byron and drouin at the trade deadline (hopefully) in the upcoming season.
Petry will be traded without retention or not at all; unless it’s at the TDL in three years, before he acquires UFA-status. (Even then, the Habs should be somewhat competitive in that timeframe, so not likely.)
A top-20 first round pick in 2022/2023 seems however like the right asset to seek if the Habs decide to pull the trigger this offseason.
As it stands, the Habs can’t afford to renew Romanov and Pitlick this offseason. Hoffman’s palatable 4.5M/2yrs can go along way to remedy this situation if shipped elsewhere. A likelier scenario than trading Armia’s 3.4M for 3 years. Ideally, the Habs would trade both!
Oddly enough I think the likelihood of Anderson getting moved is near nothing.
Teams will have to overpay and I just don't see it.
Drouin & Byron are no-brainers as UFA's on a team not expected to make the playoffs.
that leaves Hoffman/Armia.
I think teams would rather take a chance on Hoffman (shorter term, more proven) than Armia
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JVR is an expiring contract though. I wouldn’t be opposed to him.
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They tweet quoted McCagg in one post, and even he had it as an open ended “I hope” opinion. McCagg! I’ve had alphabet soup that made more sense than McCagg.
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When you look at that centre lineup you realize the pick has to be wright or Cooley
Teams called about Hoffman to see what it would cost to get him. That's really all there is to that trade rumor.
And Hughes will trade (almost) anyone if the other team match his price tag for them at his point in time.
Prospects/AHLers/cheap UFAs can fill the line-up at the start of the season if too many are traded this off-season. Habs aren't competing for the playoffs.
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IMO, the Habs 2023 1st is off the table in any trade talk.
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Hughes has said that he's more concerned about long term than short term cap flexibility.
Which I translate as: he wants the freedom to build HIS team.
Possible of course, but it's not a certainty. The Habs have 12 NHL forwards under contract, 13 if you want to include Ylonen. Add Rem Pitlick and Pezzetta who are unsigned RFA. Wright will be in the mix too. So that's maximum 16 players for 12 starting spots and 14 roster spots. Poehling and Ylonen are still waiver exempt. There will be injuries, Wright might get sent back to junior, maybe it takes a while to sign Pitlick. Dadonov, Drouin, and Byron will probably have more value in a trade at the deadline than this offseason, and we'll need bodies for roster spots after they are gone. So it wouldn't surpise me if we don't see a winger traded in the offseason. If it happens, it won't be out of necessity, it will be because a good deal was available.
This is all assuming that Petry will be traded in the offseason to make room under the cap for everyone else currently under contract and for the RFAs.
Trading Petry solves that problem.
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It would be a dream if KH was able to move Gallagher to some team with an old school mentality.
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If they want a forward, then they have a lot of choices: Drouin, Hoffman, Byron, Gallagher, or Dadonov.
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How much pull does MB have in LA?
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Sounds more like the ''connecting dots'' typical guess.....but if I am Hugues and dealing with Dallas for a top 4 D and a 20 goals middle siz wingers......, I'm not looking at their 1st round pick....let's talk about Johnston or Bourque first.
Pretty sure he control the access to the gym but other than that, not sure....
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Ludicrous. The Habs have too many prospects and too many draft picks. Impact players must be acquired and that means letting go for the Bergevin-era fear of failure. Due to the way time and wear&tear works, inaction is failure in and of itself -- see how the Habs' best players fell apart with old age and injury and forced the Habs into rebuilding from scratch. Also, inaction such as never acquiring any extra valuable draft positions and never trading 'futures' away for impact players in the present is bad for the same reason. But it's never either/or with 'stockpile all the future' and 'constantly trade them for presents'... it's obviously a dynamic topic.
It doesn't matter how a player is acquired, what matters is how they fit in the club's trajectory. Laine is 25 next season and in his prime. If the Habs are to build a core, they need to get a mix of players who are good enough to rely on. Given Suzuki and Caufield's age, that core needs to get assembled quicker than you think. If the Habs are going to trade Suzuki and Caufield, which I doubt, then they aren't a serious club and just want to jump on the carousel of fan hype. So if we accept that Suzuki and Caufield are the anchors of our next compete window that means we have about five years before they get toward their late 20s and therefore past their statistical prime. Five years from TODAY they will be past their prime.
Brayden Point was 23 when the current Tampa dynasty won its first cup, Kucherov 26, and Hedman 29. This year Makar is 23, Rantanen is 25, Mackinnon is 26, Landeskog is the old timer 29 years old.
Exclusively relying on the mystery box that is a draft pick, especially given how poorly the Habs have drafted and developed impact players the last 10+ years, is a bad call in my opinion. What matters is using any means necessary to build a young and talented team and giving them enough kicks at the can so they build up the experience needed to win. That means the Habs need to make serious playoff runs, or attempts, as soon as possible. If Hughes wants to do a scorched earth sell-off, he will have a tough time ensuring he can actually rebuild. See how badly Buffalo, Ottawa, Arizona, and even Edmonton botched it.
I'm not saying we need Kevin Fiala or Patrick Laine by any means necessary, but I wouldn't be so attached to the 1st round pick.
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