Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread: Part 77

[Sterling Archer]

While that’s true, literally no one drafted other than Mailloux has had an apologetic statement issued because they were drafted.

So?

 

[Beendair Donedat]

So?

The owner of the most prominent franchise in the league issued a statement that read (in part):

“This decision, made in the context of the draft, turned out to be instantaneously very offensive to many of you, I understand that you expect more from us and we let you down.”

Does that sound like someone who wants a lot of controversy? It reads to me like a guy who didn’t read the room that well originally and would be more than happy to Pontius Pilate himself of the player.

 

[salbutera]

Adding Bergeron & Letang on 2-3yr deals, assuming that also means Petry/Hoffman/Drouin are offloaded, would be a master stroke of roster building.

Those two decorated, cup proven, high character vets both are still playing at high quality, if borderline elite, top line play.

Relieves pressure on Suzuki, Wright, Romanov, Harris next few seasons, while being perfect mentors to help them (& Barron, Ghule & any other prospects that make the roster over next 2-3yrs) with the habits of being elite pros & finer details of dominant C/D.

It would take incredible GM work, but if Hughes made that cap swap (roughly 15M in, 16M out)

Don’t forget Weber’s contract is already all but offloaded

 

[1909]

Adding Bergeron & Letang on 2-3yr deals, assuming that also means Petry/Hoffman/Drouin are offloaded, would be a master stroke of roster building.

Those two decorated, cup proven, high character vets both are still playing at high quality, if borderline elite, top line play.

Relieves pressure on Suzuki, Wright, Romanov, Harris next few seasons, while being perfect mentors to help them (& Barron, Ghule & any other prospects that make the roster over next 2-3yrs) with the habits of being elite pros & finer details of dominant C/D.

It would take incredible GM work, but if Hughes made that cap swap (roughly 15M in, 16M out)

Bergeron will never sign for the Habs... or for any other teams than Boston.

 

[Sterling Archer]

The owner of the most prominent franchise in the league issued a statement that read (in part):

“This decision, made in the context of the draft, turned out to be instantaneously very offensive to many of you, I understand that you expect more from us and we let you down.”

Does that sound like someone who wants a lot of controversy? It reads to me like a guy who didn’t read the room that well originally and would be more than happy to Pontius Pilate himself of the player.

Again, so? He’s still on the team is he not? Also, it’s tue team who’s helping him rehab his name and image too. They’ve already committed to him and taken their lumps. Doubt they move him now just because.

Besides, I still don’t know what point you’re trying to make.

 

[Kimota]

I like Slaf more than the other players but do not want to have the responsability of not taking Wright. We could trade with the Devils cause they want roster players that we could provide them cause they said they would be willing to trade their pick for player. But since Wright is number one, the issue is that they would not take a center cause they have enough of them so they would probably take Slaf number one. Also if we trade down with Arizona, the Devils would still take Slaf in the second place. Also we cannot give the Devils players for them to get a better pick.

So I would propose to do a three-way move where The Habs get the 2nd pick, Yotes get the first pick and the Devils get the third pick. In return Habs get Jakob Chychrun from dropping one spot. Devils gets Josh Anderson for dropping one spot.

 

[McPhees Moustache]

Depends - if Gaudreau hits the market, NJD will without a doubt open the vault to sign their hometown boy. That becomes the W they’re looking to bring out the best in Hirschier, then it’s a question of what they want to add.

Making the playoff beat year seems to be the ownership mandate - would two established players do the trick? Petry + Anderson in some type of package involving 2OA?

I don’t know but there will be lots of moving pieces at play, starting w Johnny hockey situation at top of the list …

Free agency opens after the draft so they'd have no guarantee of signing Gaudreau before making the trade, which they definitely aren't making with Petry and Anderson as the main pieces for 2OA

Adding Bergeron & Letang on 2-3yr deals, assuming that also means Petry/Hoffman/Drouin are offloaded, would be a master stroke of roster building.

Those two decorated, cup proven, high character vets both are still playing at high quality, if borderline elite, top line play.

Relieves pressure on Suzuki, Wright, Romanov, Harris next few seasons, while being perfect mentors to help them (& Barron, Ghule & any other prospects that make the roster over next 2-3yrs) with the habits of being elite pros & finer details of dominant C/D.

It would take incredible GM work, but if Hughes made that cap swap (roughly 15M in, 16M out)

Bergeron has already publicly shot down the Habs rumours so not sure why this is even being floated as a possibility

 

[Beendair Donedat]

Again, so? He’s still on the team is he not? Also, it’s tue team who’s helping him rehab his name and image too. They’ve already committed to him and taken their lumps. Doubt they move him now just because.

Besides, I still don’t know what point you’re trying to make.

Well no he isn’t on the team and never was, he’s in the organization as a drafted player… they also would not be moving him “just because,” they’d be moving a package of players/prospects/picks for a player they liked more, while also shedding salary (also ensuring they’d be bad for the Bedard sweepstakes) and moving a potential distraction and a sore point for the organization.

They could spin it as a win and talk about the tremendous strides he’s (Mailloux) made to improve but how this was too much of an opportunity to pass up. Columbus gets a haul for their pick, to add to their prospect pool and a second line center.

And if you’re unable to see my point, but spend the entire first paragraph of your post responding, I’m not sure you’re being honest.

 

[ReHabs]

Too many good FAs. I wonder if Malkin and Letang chase the money or sign more reasonable deals with contenders?

What about Giroux?

Fiala being a RFA who can’t be re-signed is awfully attractive too. Wish we could get him.

 

[26Mats]

Too many good FAs. I wonder if Malkin and Letang chase the money or sign more reasonable deals with contenders?

What about Giroux?

Fiala being a RFA who can’t be re-signed is awfully attractive too. Wish we could get him.

I still think we should use the fa market like we use all other tools - to best position ourselves to get Bedard/Mishkov/another top pick in 2023. Finishing at the bottom for many years worked for Edmonton and Colorado. Look at their squads now.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Struble is a potential third pairing D, it seems unlikely that most teaks don't have a few of those.

We don't know where he tops at.

No hes not lol i dont even see Struble making the NHL hes nothing special

He has zero value right now

Zero value? I don't agree.

Each team does not have 3 or 4 Struble's. That's what I replied to.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Well no he isn’t on the team and never was, he’s in the organization as a drafted player… they also would not be moving him “just because,” they’d be moving a package of players/prospects/picks for a player they liked more, while also shedding salary (also ensuring they’d be bad for the Bedard sweepstakes) and moving a potential distraction and a sore point for the organization.

They could spin it as a win and talk about the tremendous strides he’s (Mailloux) made to improve but how this was too much of an opportunity to pass up. Columbus gets a haul for their pick, to add to their prospect pool and a second line center.

And if you’re unable to see my point, but spend the entire first paragraph of your post responding, I’m not sure you’re being honest.

Semantics. He's a member of the Canadiens.

But why would they trade him?? You say to improve but you're not going to get value for him now so it would be to the Habs detriment to trade him now. They've already taken a PR hit and have stayed with him. To trade him now after they've already taken their lumps makes no sense, especially that they have new management that isn't tied to his being in the organization.

There is zero reason to trade him now, and the best reason you can come up with puts the Habs at a disadvantage and gives no real reason as to why to trade one of the better prospects we have in the system, especially after seeing him dominate when he was in the lineup for London.

 

[CupFreeSince93]

Here's an interesting proposal, would you make a trade for Arizona's 3OA for Habs 2023 first Rd pick (lottery protected)

I doubt Arizona bites on this. Makes no sense unless our pick is unprotected.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

I doubt Arizona bites on this. Makes no sense unless our pick is unprotected.

Unless they think picks 3-8 in 2023 are higher quality than the 3OA pick is in 2022

 

[DAChampion]

Here's an interesting proposal, would you make a trade for Arizona's 3OA for Habs 2023 first Rd pick (lottery protected)

Arizona says no.

 

[aresknights]

I'm sure this has been discussed here earlier, but how would you feel about moving the #1 pick to Columbus for their first round picks, #6 and #12?

A simple no here.

 

[themilosh]

I also imagine a lot of those vets will be traded this off-season or by the TDL. Kane isn’t like any player we currently have. He’s one of the best power forwards in the game and very much inline with the team HuGo have said they want to build. Need to replace all the current smurfs with meat to insulate our small skill players like Caufield that we’re building around.

Well, thats why i offer CC for Laff straight up. Yet everyone freaks out.

 

[aresknights]

The owner of the most prominent franchise in the league issued a statement that read (in part):

“This decision, made in the context of the draft, turned out to be instantaneously very offensive to many of you, I understand that you expect more from us and we let you down.”

Does that sound like someone who wants a lot of controversy? It reads to me like a guy who didn’t read the room that well originally and would be more than happy to Pontius Pilate himself of the player.

I'm not sure I'd classify the Habs as the most prominent franchise in the league currently.
He was also making a statement to ease the angst IMO. The story has died down. Has anything been said since?
JMO but if the kid has his head on straight, makes good on all the conditions put before him it may end up just fine and maybe positive.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

As mentioned, he wasn’t drafted by this management group, and from many reports Molson wasn’t happy with the pick (or perhaps the negative publicity and media frenzy that followed). This gives Maillioux a chance to develop his career away from the spotlight, while also righting a perceived (whether correct or not) wrong, and satisfying the needs of both franchises.

I think most people have moved on from Mailloux’s transgressions. This is a non issue now imo, he’s paid his debt to society and now all that matters is if he is good enough. Teenagers make dumb decisions, this doesn’t have to define who he is for the rest of his life. There is no spotlight anymore. It’s time to move on and see if the kid can play, I think he’s got all kinds of game.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Well, thats why i offer CC for Laff straight up. Yet everyone freaks out.

Given their production, I’m not surprised why.

 

[sampollock]

All I can see if any trade happens, Kent will move up in the draft. How far? Who knows.

Love to see #2, but the price will be steep

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Interesting discussion on the Arizona board, Vegas is already over the stated cap for next season. 2022 Cap is $82.5m. Vegas's cap hit is already at $83,066667m.

That also means they only have $7.683m available for this off-season including the 10% allowance, and need to sign Hague, Roy & Kolesar, who are RFAs and Reilly Smith, who is UFA. By all accounts, Vegas is trying to keep Smith.

Some on Arizona board want to offer sheet Hague at 4 years, $4.2m. It takes him straight to UFA, and only costs a 2nd round draft pick.

IF Vegas signs Smith prior to July 1st, say at $4.5m and don't make any other moves, they would be unable to match that offer sheet, as matching would put them over the summer limit.

Not sure why Arizona would do that, as they're trying to move Chychrun who is less than a year older than Hague, but it's a good idea.

Wouldn't mind trying something like that for Roy. He had 15g, 39 pts for Vegas this year. He's a really solid player that can play all 3 forward positions.

Would love to trade for him, but no question Vegas as currently financially set, is definitely open to offer sheet with a few players.

 

[The Great Weal]

Interesting discussion on the Arizona board, Vegas is already over the stated cap for next season. 2022 Cap is $82.5m. Vegas's cap hit is already at $83,066667m.

That also means they only have $7.683m available for this off-season including the 10% allowance, and need to sign Hague, Roy & Kolesar, who are RFAs and Reilly Smith, who is UFA. By all accounts, Vegas is trying to keep Smith.

Some on Arizona board want to offer sheet Hague at 4 years, $4.2m. It takes him straight to UFA, and only costs a 2nd round draft pick.

IF Vegas signs Smith prior to July 1st, say at $4.5m and don't make any other moves, they would be unable to match that offer sheet, as matching would put them over the summer limit.

Not sure why Arizona would do that, as they're trying to move Chychrun who is less than a year older than Hague, but it's a good idea.

Wouldn't mind trying something like that for Roy. He had 15g, 39 pts for Vegas this year. He's a really solid player that can play all 3 forward positions.

Would love to trade for him, but no question Vegas as currently financially set, is definitely open to offer sheet with a few players.

Roy would be nice but unless we trade Dvorak he would be wasted as the 4C since Wright will be in the NHL. I’d do it for Hague though since he fills a need too.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Interesting discussion on the Arizona board, Vegas is already over the stated cap for next season. 2022 Cap is $82.5m. Vegas's cap hit is already at $83,066667m.

That also means they only have $7.683m available for this off-season including the 10% allowance, and need to sign Hague, Roy & Kolesar, who are RFAs and Reilly Smith, who is UFA. By all accounts, Vegas is trying to keep Smith.

Some on Arizona board want to offer sheet Hague at 4 years, $4.2m. It takes him straight to UFA, and only costs a 2nd round draft pick.

IF Vegas signs Smith prior to July 1st, say at $4.5m and don't make any other moves, they would be unable to match that offer sheet, as matching would put them over the summer limit.

Not sure why Arizona would do that, as they're trying to move Chychrun who is less than a year older than Hague, but it's a good idea.

Wouldn't mind trying something like that for Roy. He had 15g, 39 pts for Vegas this year. He's a really solid player that can play all 3 forward positions.

Would love to trade for him, but no question Vegas as currently financially set, is definitely open to offer sheet with a few players.

Wouldn’t Vegas acquiring Weber give them the space they need?

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Wouldn’t Vegas acquiring Weber give them the space they need?

No, he would just be added to their cap & put them immediately over.