Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread: Part 77

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RFA, but Minny probably doesn't have the place to sign him. Will cost a lot in $$ and asset
Around what do you think? The wild want cap efficient players for the next three years and, possibly, playoff players.

Can we trade 1st + [Prospect]+ Byron (capdump) for Fiala and sign Fiala to a c. 8m contract?

Because this regime didn’t draft him and he’s a year further along in his development (both on and off the ice). Mailloux’s under a lot less media scrutiny in Columbus as well, which will only help him short and long term.
Why can't we just keep Mailloux instead of drafting another dman?
 
Around what do you think? The wild want cap efficient players for the next three years and, possibly, playoff players.

Can we trade 1st + [Prospect]+ Byron (capdump) for Fiala and sign Fiala to a c. 8m contract?


Why can't we just keep Mailloux instead of drafting another dman?
If the prospect is Guhle, then maybe

Because Mailloux is FAR from a sure shot in the NHL, in fact the chance are not that high that he made it to the NHL
 
Around what do you think? The wild want cap efficient players for the next three years and, possibly, playoff players.

Can we trade 1st + [Prospect]+ Byron (capdump) for Fiala and sign Fiala to a c. 8m contract?


Why can't we just keep Mailloux instead of drafting another dman?
As mentioned, he wasn’t drafted by this management group, and from many reports Molson wasn’t happy with the pick (or perhaps the negative publicity and media frenzy that followed). This gives Maillioux a chance to develop his career away from the spotlight, while also righting a perceived (whether correct or not) wrong, and satisfying the needs of both franchises.
 
Because you get to draft BPA and add more value. Personally, I would move Suzuki to Wright's right wing and play Caufield on the left, with Cooley as 2C, but there are many scenarios MSL could juggle with.

3 right hand shooters doesn’t make sense… same reason Anderson Toffoli etc didn’t really work with Suzuki and Caufield.

Can’t believe how many time this gets overlooked lol
 
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I wouldn’t be surprised is Habs went after E Kane. They want size and skill and despite him being an A-hole, he’s got what the Habs are looking for in spades. Haven’t heard his name anywhere but seems like someone HoGo would target.
 
I wouldn’t be surprised is Habs went after E Kane. They want size and skill and despite him being an A-hole, he’s got what the Habs are looking for in spades. Haven’t heard his name anywhere but seems like someone HoGo would target.
wasn't there a rumor that MB was trying to get him and that was part of the reason he was canned?

Also he seems nothing like a Hugo kind of guy....
 
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wasn't there a rumor that MB was trying to get him and that was part of the reason he was canned?

Also he seems nothing like a Hugo kind of guy....
I don’t think going after Kane was the reason he was canned. At least not in the top 176 reasons anyways.

Why not? HoGo aren’t bound by the same principles and process Bergevin was. They said they wanted size, skil and speed. Kane brings all of these in spades and his playoffs have been unreal. Why wouldn’t they want him exactly?

As mentioned, he wasn’t drafted by this management group, and from many reports Molson wasn’t happy with the pick (or perhaps the negative publicity and media frenzy that followed). This gives Maillioux a chance to develop his career away from the spotlight, while also righting a perceived (whether correct or not) wrong, and satisfying the needs of both franchises.
Literally no one in the organization was drafted by this management group. Also, Mailloux is a client of Octogon so Hughes would have good insight into him. Also because he didn’t pick him, he has no heat. He inherited him and so can let him develop as he pleases. I haven’t seen any pitch folks out for Mailloux in front of the Bell Center and all the media to date us been pretty positive with him working to right himself. Don’t think there’s any pressure to move him at this point.
 
I don’t think going after Kane was the reason he was canned. At least not in the top 176 reasons anyways.

Why not? HoGo aren’t bound by the same principles and process Bergevin was. They said they wanted size, skil and speed. Kane brings all of these in spades and his playoffs have been unreal. Why wouldn’t they want him exactly?


Literally no one in the organization was drafted by this management group. Also, Mailloux is a client of Octogon so Hughes would have good insight into him. Also because he didn’t pick him, he has no heat. He inherited him and so can let him develop as he pleases. I haven’t seen any pitch folks out for Mailloux in front of the Bell Center and all the media to date us been pretty positive with him working to right himself. Don’t think there’s any pressure to move him at this point.
Well, his playoffs have been unreal, because McDavid has been sublime. All 3 goals yesterday set up by McJesus. Personally, he'd be crazy to leave Edmonton. Perfect winger for McD.
 
I don’t think going after Kane was the reason he was canned. At least not in the top 176 reasons anyways.

Why not? HoGo aren’t bound by the same principles and process Bergevin was. They said they wanted size, skil and speed. Kane brings all of these in spades and his playoffs have been unreal. Why wouldn’t they want him exactly?


Literally no one in the organization was drafted by this management group. Also, Mailloux is a client of Octogon so Hughes would have good insight into him. Also because he didn’t pick him, he has no heat. He inherited him and so can let him develop as he pleases. I haven’t seen any pitch folks out for Mailloux in front of the Bell Center and all the media to date us been pretty positive with him working to right himself. Don’t think there’s any pressure to move him at this point.
The Oilers wanted him because they were desperate for a spark and they got it. They didnt care about any off ice issues.

Hugo have said many times that character matters. This is not the kind of guy I ant anywhere near all the young guys The Habs will ice in the next few years.....

as far away as possible.

Besides he would have to be a fool to leave Edmonton. McDavid will make him a superstar.
 
We can forget Jeff Petry to Dallas

Elliotte Friedman in his podcast just said that Dallas will look to shed money with Robertson/Oettengier/Hintz contract needed to be resign
Benn & Seguin are BIG problems for them now. Don't know how they'll manage it, but they need to move one of them. Both have NMC, so they can't just dump them on Arizona. Both aren't close to earning their contracts & both have buy-out protected contracts.

Only thing is Seguin has hip issues that still requires surgery, so he might be LTIR candidate anyway.

Benn is at least down to only 3 years on his contract.

I still think Petry is a fit there. I think they'll look to clear cap by moving Faksa, Gurianov, and either buy-out or try to move Khudobin (only 1 year left)

They could try and move Bishop's LTIR too (1 year).

Robertson & Oettinger need to be signed this summer. Hintz has another year.

If they move the above mentioned players, and don't resign their UFAs, like Holtby, Klingberg, Radulov, etc they'll clear about $27m.
 
Benn & Seguin are BIG problems for them now. Don't know how they'll manage it, but they need to move one of them. Both have NMC, so they can't just dump them on Arizona. Both aren't close to earning their contracts & both have buy-out protected contracts.

Only thing is Seguin has hip issues that still requires surgery, so he might be LTIR candidate anyway.

Benn is at least down to only 3 years on his contract.

I still think Petry is a fit there. I think they'll look to clear cap by moving Faksa, Gurianov, and either buy-out or try to move Khudobin (only 1 year left)

They could try and move Bishop's LTIR too (1 year).

Robertson & Oettinger need to be signed this summer. Hintz has another year.

If they move the above mentioned players, and don't resign their UFAs, like Holtby, Klingberg, Radulov, etc they'll clear about $27m.
I don't think they will want to add an other big contract to an old player if they are able to make space.
 
I don't think they will want to add an other big contract to an old player if they are able to make space.
They signed Suter to a long term contract. Petry can replace Klingberg at a lesser cost & fewer years. I wouldn't say they're completely out.
 
They signed Suter to a long term contract. Petry can replace Klingberg at a lesser cost & fewer years. I wouldn't say they're completely out.
That's why I don't think they want to an other one. They already have Suter.

Thomas Harley will get a bigger role, and I could see them signing a veteran #5-6 at a cheap price. That would make more sense for them
 
I'm sure this has been discussed here earlier, but how would you feel about moving the #1 pick to Columbus for their first round picks, #6 and #12?
 
I wouldn’t be surprised is Habs went after E Kane. They want size and skill and despite him being an A-hole, he’s got what the Habs are looking for in spades. Haven’t heard his name anywhere but seems like someone HoGo would target.
UFAs serve absolutely no purpose on the Habs atm. We have enough vets (LTIR and otherwise) to help guide the youth. We are rebuilding, and will continue to do so next year - and hopefully finish dead last again.
Fans need to stop assuming we will start picking up ufas this off season, it aint happening.
 
Well, his playoffs have been unreal, because McDavid has been sublime. All 3 goals yesterday set up by McJesus. Personally, he'd be crazy to leave Edmonton. Perfect winger for McD.
I don’t think it a Kane issue but rather an Edmonton cap issue. They signed him to 1 year deal at $2M because that’s all they could afford. So I doubt they make massive moves to keep him but I’m sure he’d be happy to stay if they did.

Also, Kane would be playing with Wright (?) or Suzuki. No McDavid but both are sublime playmakers who would do well with a scoring power forward.
The Oilers wanted him because they were desperate for a spark and they got it. They didnt care about any off ice issues.

Hugo have said many times that character matters. This is not the kind of guy I ant anywhere near all the young guys The Habs will ice in the next few years.....

as far away as possible.

Besides he would have to be a fool to leave Edmonton. McDavid will make him a superstar.
They’ve said more that they want to rebuild the roster in his mold. Guys like Panarin who publicly stated he wanted out of Columbus, Fox who refused to sign unless it was NY, same for Trouba. They drafted Lias Anderson, and traded for DeAngelo. None of these scream “character” players but Gorton acquired them all. So I don’t think Kanes personal life will be a determining factor if they can manage to sign him.

Again, I haven’t heard anything but could see Habs going after him is he’s available.
 
I wouldn’t be surprised is Habs went after E Kane. They want size and skill and despite him being an A-hole, he’s got what the Habs are looking for in spades. Haven’t heard his name anywhere but seems like someone HoGo would target.

Wanted him forever. I would be ecstatic to get him. But seems like he's really found a place in edmonton playing with the greatest player in hockey
 
UFAs serve absolutely no purpose on the Habs atm. We have enough vets (LTIR and otherwise) to help guide the youth. We are rebuilding, and will continue to do so next year - and hopefully finish dead last again.
Fans need to stop assuming we will start picking up ufas this off season, it aint happening.
I also imagine a lot of those vets will be traded this off-season or by the TDL. Kane isn’t like any player we currently have. He’s one of the best power forwards in the game and very much inline with the team HuGo have said they want to build. Need to replace all the current smurfs with meat to insulate our small skill players like Caufield that we’re building around.
 
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What's the point of a aquiring Bergeron?

Adding Bergeron & Letang on 2-3yr deals, assuming that also means Petry/Hoffman/Drouin are offloaded, would be a master stroke of roster building.

Those two decorated, cup proven, high character vets both are still playing at high quality, if borderline elite, top line play.

Relieves pressure on Suzuki, Wright, Romanov, Harris next few seasons, while being perfect mentors to help them (& Barron, Ghule & any other prospects that make the roster over next 2-3yrs) with the habits of being elite pros & finer details of dominant C/D.

It would take incredible GM work, but if Hughes made that cap swap (roughly 15M in, 16M out) :bow:
 
I don’t think going after Kane was the reason he was canned. At least not in the top 176 reasons anyways.

Why not? HoGo aren’t bound by the same principles and process Bergevin was. They said they wanted size, skil and speed. Kane brings all of these in spades and his playoffs have been unreal. Why wouldn’t they want him exactly?


Literally no one in the organization was drafted by this management group
. Also, Mailloux is a client of Octogon so Hughes would have good insight into him. Also because he didn’t pick him, he has no heat. He inherited him and so can let him develop as he pleases. I haven’t seen any pitch folks out for Mailloux in front of the Bell Center and all the media to date us been pretty positive with him working to right himself. Don’t think there’s any pressure to move him at this point.
While that’s true, literally no one drafted other than Mailloux has had an apologetic statement issued because they were drafted.
 
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