Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread: Part 77

[SwiftyHab]

Good call. So maybe we are looking at a 5th+

But at first we thought we’d have to give assets to get rid of Weber’s contract. To get anything is a positive.

The positive is getting rid of the contract to have the room to sign another asset. If we get literally anything back, then it’s a bonus.

I feel the same about a few other players (Drouin, Hoffman, maybe Price) but Weber isnt ever going to play so is for sure the first cap hit we should figure out.

 

[Cournoyer12]

I'll be damned if we receive anything more significant than a third round pick for Weber, I just can't see this happening. It is such a minor league mentality

This contract is the main reason why they changed the rules with a max number of years and max salary fluctuation. The league would look like an even bigger joke (if that's even possible), if the Yotes paid a premium price just so they can put a less competitive team in front of less than 3000 "fans".

I hope they can't fill that rink and it ends up moving to Quebec. And while we're there, I also hope Bettman has to retire in disgrace

We can only hope my man! Zona a professional hockey franchise, and I use that term lightly. Playing in a FIELDHOUSE, as coach from Letterkenny would say : “ f***ING EMBARRASSING”!!!!!

 

[CanadienShark]

it was +- 20 years ago and Bergeron was a kid/teen. This isn't a fact , this was a fact long time ago

They used the part tense. It's fact. Even if he were a die-hard fan of the Habs now, doesn't change that fact.

 

[ZUKI]

They used the part tense. It's fact. Even if he were a die-hard fan of the Habs now, doesn't change that fact.

the comment was about Bergeron not wanting to sign with the Habs BECAUSE he was a Nordics fan. It doesn't make a fact in the present time because it was a fact 20 years ago.

 

[CanadienShark]

the comment was about Bergeron not wanting to sign with the Habs BECAUSE he was a Nordics fan. It doesn't make a fact in the present time because it was a fact 20 years ago.

The post specifically used past tense. Facts don't change like that. I'm a grown man now, but to say I "was a child once" isn't somehow not a fact.

 

[FF de Mars]

Would you do Anderson, Guhle and Calgary's 1st for NJ's 2OV?

 

[Draft]

Would you do Anderson, Guhle and Calgary's 1st for NJ's 2OV?

Absolutely not.

 

[BozoTheClown]

Absolutely not.

Agree!
I feel like it is to much for this year’s 2OV, when you consider we could get a first for Anderson and are giving 2 more 1st.

 

[The Great Weal]

What's with all the proposals for the 2nd OA pick? If we are going to make a giant package for a key player that player should be a dman.

 

[Deebs]

Would you do Anderson, Guhle and Calgary's 1st for NJ's 2OV?

Is this ban worthy?

 

[FF de Mars]

Is this ban worthy?

It must mean it's fair value if posters don't like it. Sure if you trade Guhle you basically trade McDonagh, but can you imagine having both Wright and Cooley? Anderson has inflated value, it would be good to trade him and his long contract. Calgary's 1st stings, maybe you can convince NJ to take the Habs second instead, maybe not.

 

[Deebs]

It must mean it's fair value if posters don't like it. Sure if you trade Guhle you basically trade McDonagh, but can you imagine having both Wright and Cooley? Anderson has inflated value, it would be good to trade him and his long contract. Calgary's 1st stings, maybe you can convince NJ to take the Habs second instead, maybe not.

I don't like it because it's a drastic overpayment

 

[FF de Mars]

I don't like it because it's a drastic overpayment

You get a potential superstar for a top4 D, an overrated PF and a late 1st. Maybe NJ wants Dvo instead of the 1st, that would make the trade even better for us. I would very much like Hughes to take advantage of NJ trying to be competitive and not wanting BPA.

 

[DougHarvey]

Would you do Anderson, Guhle and Calgary's 1st for NJ's 2OV?

Would rather we trade Mailloux than Guhle

 

[FF de Mars]

Would rather we trade Mailloux than Guhle

Mailloux doesn't have the same value because he hasn't played enough games. He might end up the better player though. Moreover NJ should be looking for a stud like Guhle, he would instantly make their whole team better just like McDonagh did in TB, through transition, sound play and physicalness. Mailloux is more of a project and he's riskier and also not as good defensively.

 

[themilosh]

The positive is getting rid of the contract to have the room to sign another asset. If we get literally anything back, then it’s a bonus.

I feel the same about a few other players (Drouin, Hoffman, maybe Price) but Weber isnt ever going to play so is for sure the first cap hit we should figure out.

Uhm, you realize that by shedding Weber contract that does not free up room to sign another asset. his contract puts us over the cap. If you mean by summer spending and being cap compliant then that might be a possibility, but I dont see the reason for the CH to be spending anything on UFAs this offseason, especially that we are still in rebuild mode for 1 more year.

 

[Sebastien]

Would you do Anderson, Guhle and Calgary's 1st for NJ's 2OV?

New Jersey wouldn't. This is bad

 

[FF de Mars]

New Jersey wouldn't. This is bad

Possibly. It depens how they see Guhle and Anderson. I remember reading on the NJ board fans saying they need a player like Anderson who drives the net like a real PF, when I mentioned this on our board posters replied it would take Mercer. Guhle ain't no slouch either, he's the main piece of the deal and tearing up his league, he has been PPG and he's a defenseman and offense isn't even his best attribute. I can understand NJ not wanting this trade but I'm not sure it's as terribad as you think. If NJ isn't taking Cooley it would make sense to trade the pick.

 

[jellybeans]

Would you do Anderson, Guhle and Calgary's 1st for NJ's 2OV?

That would be a stupid offer form the habs way too much Guhle has tons of great potential.

 

[FF de Mars]

That would be a stupid offer form the habs way too much Guhle has tons of great potential.

Cooley has even greater potential. Guhle might be a core piece but Cooley is a gamebreaker.

 

[NekkiChiconey]

Would an offer sheet to Liljegren make sense? Between 2.1M and 4.2M only requires a 2nd rounder... and I'm not sure Toronto matches.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

He is former 2nd round pick

i know he his whats your point?

 

[SwiftyHab]

Uhm, you realize that by shedding Weber contract that does not free up room to sign another asset. his contract puts us over the cap. If you mean by summer spending and being cap compliant then that might be a possibility, but I dont see the reason for the CH to be spending anything on UFAs this offseason, especially that we are still in rebuild mode for 1 more year.

Aren’t we only able to go 10% over the cap during the summer? And aren’t LtIRs re-evaluated before the season starts? If that’s the case, then his salary restricts us from signing other players during that window between July 1 and the start of the season.

New Jersey wouldn't. This is bad

That would translate to 2 1sts and a top 6 PF for the pick. Why wouldn’t they do that?

 

[Mrb1p]

Would you do Anderson, Guhle and Calgary's 1st for NJ's 2OV?

Yes wtf who wouldnt

 

[SwiftyHab]

That would be a stupid offer form the habs way too much Guhle has tons of great potential.

I’d be willing to let Mailloux and Anderson go. Maybe a 2nd rounder too but that’s it.