Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread: Part 77

[CaptainKirk]

The timing's wrong though. The under25 NHLer that you mention is at a different point in his contract negotiating power. PLD for example is in his 2nd contract and close to getting a massive 3rd contract. The Leafs made the mistake of signing a better player in Tavares when they were at a much more competitive stage in their rebuild than us. They didn't have to trade assets like we would for PLD but they should have continued to rebuild organically as the Tavares contract has hurt their cap flexibility.

We're too many years away from contending to trade significant assets for a non-star player about to hit the jackpot.

Tavares was exactly who I was thinking about. Imagine we trade valuable assets, sign PLD to a massive contract and he turns out to be just ok. Hurts the rebuild. In two years time, if he really wants to come here, we can get him for free and trade whoever becomes redundant for another need.

 

[Schooner Guy]

For PLD, there does seem to be some smoke that he wants to be in MTL, it could be as simple as he wants to be close to home who knows, but Dreger was on 690 this morning and said keep an eye on montreal for that one. When he was trying to leave Columbus it was known montreal was his preferred destination, he's friends with Andy's. I think there's definitely a shitload of smoke that he wants to play in Montreal for whatever reason, kinda like Fox years ago.

If Hughes could get PLD I do wonder if he considers drafting Slaf as opposed to Wright.

But seriously no one can tell me that a top 6 that has

Suzuki, Caufield, Anderson, PLD and Eventually Wright, Slaf or Cooley wouldn't be the most talented lineup we've had in a generation


Well it depends, what are the assets needed, PLD is now known that he wants to be traded teams may be less willing to give up big assets so if it's a Prospect + the CGY 1st and maybe a 3rd I'd be down for it

He cost Laine and Roslovic just last year. We're not getting him for anything less than one of Guhle/Caufield + the CGY 1st and another early round pick or B+ prospect.

After wearing out his welcome at a young age in two different organizations already, I really don't think he'd be a great guy to have around during a rebuild.

 

[Colezuki]

He cost Laine and Roslovic just last year. We're not getting him for anything less than one of Guhle/Caufield + the CGY 1st and another early round pick or B+ prospect.

After wearing out his welcome at a young age in two different organizations already, I really don't think he'd be a great guy to have around during a rebuild.

He cost Laine and Roslovic a year ago when there we're three years of team control and a chance at resigning longterm. If he's basically making it known I'm going to UFA in 2 years then that value is obviously not as high to teams that are contenders.

Off topic but I do wonder if Boston tries to take a swing at him to extend there window more

 

[Kent Nilsson]

For PLD, there does seem to be some smoke that he wants to be in MTL, it could be as simple as he wants to be close to home who knows, but Dreger was on 690 this morning and said keep an eye on montreal for that one. When he was trying to leave Columbus it was known montreal was his preferred destination, he's friends with Andy's. I think there's definitely a shitload of smoke that he wants to play in Montreal for whatever reason, kinda like Fox years ago.

If Hughes could get PLD I do wonder if he considers drafting Slaf as opposed to Wright.

But seriously no one can tell me that a top 6 that has

Suzuki, Caufield, Anderson, PLD and Eventually Wright, Slaf or Cooley wouldn't be the most talented lineup we've had in a generation


Well it depends, what are the assets needed, PLD is now known that he wants to be traded teams may be less willing to give up big assets so if it's a Prospect + the CGY 1st and maybe a 3rd I'd be down for it

Slaf-Suzuki-x
X-PLD-Caufield

Thats a decent base but still needs many more pieces to be a contender. I see a risk of falling in mediocroty territory again.

You can’t accelerate the growth of a tree by pulling on it.

 

[Schooner Guy]

He cost Laine and Roslovic a year ago when there we're three years of team control and a chance at resigning longterm. If he's basically making it known I'm going to UFA in 2 years then that value is obviously not as high to teams that are contenders.

Off topic but I do wonder if Boston tries to take a swing at him to extend there window more

And he made little impact on Winnipeg and is already looking forward to getting out. I don't like his history of always thinking the grass is greener somewhere else. Imagine the Habs trading a large sum of assets for him and then he doesn't re-sign and we lose him to free agency. Or we get him and give him a large contract and then we're stuck with a problem after his pattern of wanting out continues.

No thanks.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

PLD to Montreal on draft day would sure make the bell center scream loud

that being said i remember hearing he wants to play center but will have Suzuki and Wright and i love him more on the wing he was a beast with team canada

woudlnt give more then Calgary's pick + 2nd + B Prospect if thats not enough take your chances in 2 years

 

[Richiebottles]

It might also be a situation where he says « I only want to get traded to MTL or I walk ». Similar to how Giroux did things in Philly, if that’s the case the cost will be lower since WPG’s will only have 1 option.

I do think that they could work something out for futures.

 

[Hannibal]

It seems like PLD really wants to come to MTL.

That would be amazing!!

 

[sampollock]

Winnipeg is a shit hole. Surprised more people don’t want out.

been there 7 times to watch the habs... the downtown is a hole

 

[Deebs]

He cost Laine and Roslovic just last year. We're not getting him for anything less than one of Guhle/Caufield + the CGY 1st and another early round pick or B+ prospect.

After wearing out his welcome at a young age in two different organizations already, I really don't think he'd be a great guy to have around during a rebuild.

He definitely has that entitled bitch factor so far in his career. He's a good, solid player but by no means a star in which he should be acting this way imo.

Yes, I'd take him on our team but I would be cautious with his contract and would need an extension agreed upon before pulling the trigger.

 

[neil2005]

 

[MTL-rules]

It seems like PLD really wants to come to MTL.

That would be amazing!!

In 2 years when he'll be UFA.

I'm not giving up assets for him, this team is in a rebuild mode.

Draft Wright and you're already better for longer and cheaper.

PLD is not worth 8mil a year... He's barely worth 6mil. If we get rif somehow of Gallagher's contract, maybe we can talk about adding PLD.

 

[Colezuki]

And he made little impact on Winnipeg and is already looking forward to getting out. I don't like his history of always thinking the grass is greener somewhere else. Imagine the Habs trading a large sum of assets for him and then he doesn't re-sign and we lose him to free agency. Or we get him and give him a large contract and then we're stuck with a problem after his pattern of wanting out continues.

No thanks.

I mean to each there own, but your not hearing NY Complain about Fox who got himself moved twice before he made the NHL.

Slaf-Suzuki-x
X-PLD-Caufield

Thats a decent base but still needs many more pieces to be a contender. I see a risk of falling in mediocroty territory again.

You can’t accelerate the growth of a tree by pulling on it.

You can't, but you must also recogonize we're not in a normal spot of a full rebuild like most teams, this isn't like ottawa, we had a semi-rebuild that started in 2018.

We're not starting from scratch, We've got a 1b in suzuki, a goal-scoring top 6 winger in caufield, and a stable of 4 potential top 4 D, (Guhle, Mailloux, Barron, Romanov). On top of another 5+ prospects that have a chance at being strong performers (Harris, Farrell, Roy, Struble, heinemann). The two areas we're currently the weakest are at forward and at Goaltending. We're going to draft another top forward and if you can get Dubois using Picks and players you basically complete 2/3's of the top 6

 

[sampollock]

It seems like PLD really wants to come to MTL.

That would be amazing!!

kings ransom to get him... but UFA might be a way to land him

 

[Sterling Archer]

I’d rather have Nemec. Guhle is very boring. I wouldn’t be necessarily shopping Guhle, but if it helps acquire a better, younger player, then I’m all over it.

I don’t care much for Guhle tbh. He’s a physically mature kid that should be completely dominating junior. He won’t have any advantage there in the pros and toolset is very meh.

Yeah, what a boring slug:

Montreal Canadiens Prospect Kaiden Guhle Named WHL Playoffs MVP

Montreal Canadiens prospect Kaiden Guhle helped the Edmonton Oil Kings win a WHL title and he was named the playoff MVP as well.

awinninghabit.com

Guhle put up 25 points in 25 regular season games for the Oil Kings. He was hurt down the stretch of the season, but returned just in time for Game 1 of the opening round of the playoffs. He was just as good in the postseason, finishing with eight goals and 16 points in 19 games.

While his offence was impressive, the 6’2″ and 201 pound left defender is even better defensively. His speed and agility moving both forward and backward are incredible and he uses those skills to attack puck carriers and force them to make quick decision which often leads to turnovers or soft dump-ins.

Guhle played on the team’s top pairing, killed penalties and was a fixture on their power play as well. He was an enormous part of the Oil Kings earning a WHL Championship and if that wasn’t obvious already, he was rewarded with the Playoff MVP Award for his efforts.

I mean who needs a ppg, shut down D that hits like a truck, has a howitzer of a shot, can skate and is a proven leader and captain for Team Canada's Under 19 team?? Boooooring...

 

[Colezuki]

In 2 years when he'll be UFA.

I'm not giving up assets for him, this team is in a rebuild mode.

Draft Wright and you're already better for longer and cheaper.

PLD is not worth 8mil a year... He's barely worth 6mil. If we get rif somehow of Gallagher's contract, maybe we can talk about adding PLD.

oh come on, barely worth 6M? Myers, Jordan staal, Erk Johnson, Jonas Brodin, Markstrom, Guentzel, Ehlers and zuccarelo all make 6 and he's better then all of them not named guentzel. Your also talking about a guy whose 24 and has top line power forward potential.

 

[McGees]

Guhle + Gally for PLD - who does it?

 

[Gravity]

I dont think we will have to give Caufield 10m+ (like Marner and Mathews), Suzuki is already signed, etc, dont see a problem giving Dubois 8m+...

Wright and whoever we draft next year's ELC will run out around then.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Guhle + Gally for PLD - who does it?

For me, Guhle is untouchable.

 

[Doc5]

Guhle + Gally for PLD - who does it?

I’d say it’s not enough value going to Winnipeg, Gally really only has negative value. That being said I’m hesitant to trade our best defensive prospect for a former third overall pick..

 

[Richiebottles]

What also might factor in to us going to get him before UFA is the willingness for HUGO to be competitive sooner rather than later like NYR.

If they get him this year and lock up his deal long term + adding Slaf or Wright and a 2023 first rounder we could be set.

 

[HabsForHire]

Guhle + Gally for PLD - who does it?

That's a no from me dawg, stay the course

 

[waitin425]

Drouin + Calgary 1st + Montreal 2023 2nd for PLD

Anderson - Suzuki - Caufield
PLD - Wright - Gally

Enjoy

 

[ReHabs]

I'd trade any draft pick (other than a the 1OA) for a reliable 70+ point player who is under 25. PLD is not such a player.

He will have to come in a hockey trade - such as Anderson+Cgy 1st for PLD. Something like that.

 

[waitin425]

I'd trade any draft pick (other than a the 1OA) for a reliable 70+ point player who is under 25. PLD is not such a player.

He will have to come in a hockey trade - such as Anderson+Cgy 1st for PLD. Something like that.

Keep Anderson and trade Drouin instead.

Andy on one line and PLD on the other. Would be nightmares for opposing teams.