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Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread: Part 77

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salbutera said:
Why? The cap will bounce up to $100M+ ceiling within 2-3 years easily..
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I have it growing a lot but not $100M that quickly. I think it goes from $82.5M this year to maybe $85M the season after (Still some NHLPA balance left to pay). Then around $90M the season after that (24/25). Then there might be stable years and they get back to around $2M/year inflation.

$100M? That's going to take about 5 years or more. I'm more confident on the $90M point in time vs the $100M point in time.

McDavid, Matthews, and MacKinnon are all tracking to be UFA's at a very bad time. It's right in the middle where the cap is growing substantially and the Agent is going to the GM fits. If I'm Hughes, I avoid it and ensure that guys are RFA well past the 24/25 season. I think those will be stable growth years it's more calmer waters for the GM and agent to project growth.
 
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Habs Halifax said:
Bad timing. You will have to overpay on a long term deal for his 30+ years. It's a bad idea chasing UFA's looking to cash in where they start the contract in 30+ years. Gallagher & Price (our own property) are two examples of that.

Teravainen is good but his value is now. How good is he for 30+ years? I say there is risks there cause if he looses some skating, he is not as effective.

There is a chance we move Anderson but I don't think it's this summer. It will take overpayment and a deal we can't refuse like Lehkonen. HuGo value him and I don't blame them. Anderson is signed till 32 and through his prime. His value is not going down in his prime years and we can consider moving him at a later date. For now, he is valuable to us by protecting our youth on the ice.

The only way I consider trading Romanov is if it's in a package to get #2OA from the Devils. Other than that, he's a keeper.
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I think he’ll be a reasonable signing,he’s not an elite player and these kind of players have a limit in what teams are willing to pay.

With all players, I’m not interested in paying stupid money and if that’s what he wants, it’s an easy pass from me. We still will need a few veterans on the team.

I think players like him will be okay until mid 30’s, it’s the crash-em, smash-em tend to be done earlier then that.
 
Habs Halifax said:
I have it growing a lot but not $100M that quickly. I think it goes from $82.5M this year to maybe $85M the season after (Still some NHLPA balance left to pay). Then around $90M the season after that (24/25). Then there might be stable years and they get back to around $2M/year inflation.

$100M? That's going to take about 5 years or more. I'm more confident on the $90M point in time vs the $100M point in time.

McDavid, Matthews, and MacKinnon are all tracking to be UFA's at a very bad time. It's right in the middle where the cap is growing substantially and the Agent is going to the GM fits. If I'm Hughes, I avoid it and ensure that guys are RFA well past the 24/25 season. I think those will be stable growth years it's more calmer waters for the GM and agent to project growth.
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I thought the NHL had already committed to only 1M/yr increases until the balance was paid?
 
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Frozenice said:
For a 1st rounder +.

I like Romanov but we’re bringing in a bunch of LD into the system, if we can’t find a guy in that bunch to replace Romanov we can always find one as a UFA.
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I don't think the + would be very big to go along with the first round pick -- and the Habs would be fortunate to draft a player as good as Romanov with the 1st.

I don't like the idea of trading really good young defensive prospects, and Romanov looks like a great bet to be a solid 2nd pairing D. The Habs have been burned by trading MacDonagh and Sergachev, and I don't want to see old mistakes repeated. Same reason I wouldn't want to include Guhle in any deals.
 
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MXD said:
Well, he's making 6.2M$ this season, he's already close to close to 7 millions.



He's apparently wants to get to UFAcy. Of course giving assets to acquire a UFAcy-headed Dubois at this juncture is completely stupid. He'd possibly be a great add to this team two years from now.
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Agreed.
 
Vachon23 said:
Pierre-Luc Dubois would be great fit for the Habs for many reasons even If I would prefer to sign as UFA in 2 years.

- He would be the perfect fit to play with Suzuki-Caufield
- We really need size in our Top 6
- With our 2 top 6 C being right handed, he could take some face-off on the left side (a little bit like what Landeskog do with Colorado)
- Can take the top 6 C position if one of Suzuki/Wright is injured
- Same groupe of age of Suzuki so he will be 28 (in his prime) when we will to compete

And just imagine the reaction at the Bell Center if Gary Bettman announce the acquisition of Dubois at the draft.
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Dubois prefers first and above all to play at center. That is where he is the most efficient and productive. If habs would draft Slaf (and they won't), I could see them trying to get Dubois to fill their 2nd line center spot.
 
I don't know why people keep bringing up the fact Dubois wants to hit free agency. It just goes without saying, nobody is trading for him without a verbal commitment from the player to sign an extension. The entire concept of trading for him is predicated on Dubois agreeing to extend with Montreal and the answer is obvious if he won't commit.

If I asked you if you wanted to go on a golf trip next summer you would say yes or no, not "yes, but if there's thunderstorms we can't play golf on those days".
 
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1909 said:
Dubois prefers first and above all to play at center. That is where he is the most efficient and productive. If habs would draft Slaf (and they won't), I could see them trying to get Dubois to fill their 2nd line center spot.
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I’m not sure he’s that better on the Center, look how good he look as winger at the WC with Team Canada
 
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hardcorehabs said:
Winnipeg is a shit hole. Surprised more people don’t want out.
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What's this obsession with Dubois, this is third team he is piss$ing on and some fans want him here?

We've had this kind of character and they fuel toxic environment for the team.

If we are Rebuilding then why settle for Toxic player?

I think Hugo are targetting certain players, and I am confident they can land big fish when the time is right for contention, so let's stop speculating each time some random player is piSs$ing on some team.
 
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Indca said:
What's this obsession with Dubois, this is third team he is piss$ing on and some fans want him here?

We've had this kind of character and they fuel toxic environment for the team.

If we are Rebuilding then why settle for Toxic player?

I think Hugo are targetting certain players, and I am confident they can land big fish when the time is right for contention, so let's stop speculating each time some random player is piSs$ing on some team.
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Second team, not third.. and for good reasons. Torts a notorious asshole and no one in there right mind wants to commit to Winnipeg's shithole and poisonous locker room.
 
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Goalfield22 said:
Because, as I said before, there is risk he is traded to a big market and signs long-term. That team can offer 8 years. I would rather get him now, let him be part of the culture, and get a better 8 year deal when the time is right. For Anderson, Dvorak and a B prospect, I would do it every time.
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Sure you would bud, Winnipeg no. He will get trade for a high first + really solid prospects...
 
1909 said:
Rutta from TB would be a good option. But ideally, Habs should trade again with Avs to get Girard.
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I really don't love that idea. Girard's coming off of a bad year and he's the kind of D that you'll overpay for. He's also not a tough minutes guy. If we're going for a former Av, I'd rather get Barrie, who's bigger, has less term, plays RD and will be significantly cheaper to acquire. Montreal's looking for a veteran stopgap.
 
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Captain Mountain said:
I really don't love that idea. Girard's coming off of a bad year and he's the kind of D that you'll overpay for. He's also not a tough minutes guy. If we're going for a former Av, I'd rather get Barrie, who's bigger, has less term, plays RD and will be significantly cheaper to acquire. Montreal's looking for a veteran stopgap.
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...so Barrie for Hoff or Army...don't love it, don't hate it...so what the Hades:

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BigDaddyLurch said:
...so Barrie for Hoff or Army...don't love it, don't hate it...so what the Hades:

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Even if its something less, like Byron or (if Montreal clears cap elsewhere) a mid round pick, its much better than trading multiple high quality peices for Girard, who is a sell high candidate coming off a really down year and tends to not look nearly as good when he's not playing with a Makar or Toews caliber D-man.
 
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Indca said:
What's this obsession with Dubois, this is third team he is piss$ing on and some fans want him here?

We've had this kind of character and they fuel toxic environment for the team.

If we are Rebuilding then why settle for Toxic player?

I think Hugo are targetting certain players, and I am confident they can land big fish when the time is right for contention, so let's stop speculating each time some random player is piSs$ing on some team.
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I think where he is french Canadian. But I wouldn't trade for him. Be Heavy pressure here on him and he's turned on two teams now. High percentage chance it will blow up on us
 
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