Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread: Part 77

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I'd rather pay 10M$ for UFA Huberdeau than 7M$+ for UFA PLD.
I have an issue paying PLD a center salary to have him play LW... but I've said before, a cost-controlled PLD-Suzuki-Caufield line is smexy.

Really? I don't think I'd take Huberdeau over Dubois at the same AAV. Huberdeau is one dimensional and 5 years older. His next contract will age terribly.
 
Anybody see the latest news on PLD? He is going to force his way to UFA. 2 more RFA years I believe. He'll be a 26 year old UFA.

PLD wants to play in Montreal. Other teams can go ahead and trade for him... he'll force his way to UFA regardless. I'm guessing here but I think he thought the Habs would trade for him from the Blue Jackets and I believe we tried but we didn't have a Laine to offer. Then fast forward to the series in the playoffs (Jets/Habs) and he looked uninspired that round.

Yes, it's what my gut is telling me.
Don’t know if he’s forcing his way to MTL or a simply a big market. I do think that if NYR trade for him (what would be a fit for them), he will sign a long term contract with them
 
Having Wright cost controlled for 3, possibly more years (bridge contract) would allow for a 1-2-3 of SUzuki, Wright and PLD quite comfortably and give us one of the best center depth in the NHL.

I'm not for giving up the farm for PLD, but it could easily fit our roster especially once the deadwood is cut off and Price contract resolved. I'd rather spend all that money on centers than on goaltending!
 
Don’t know if he’s forcing his way to MTL or a simply a big market. I do think that if NYR trade for him (what would be a fit for them), he will sign a long term contract with them
I fully expect NYR will go big game hunting this offseason - expecting Patrick Kane or Scheifele to end up with them
 
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Don’t know if he’s forcing his way to MTL or a simply a big market. I do think that if NYR trade for him (what would be a fit for them), he will sign a long term contract with them

Yes, we don't know but my gut tells me he would want to play for the Habs. I'm guessing.

The Rangers comment was about their leverage they had on the Trouba trade. If the Rangers try to trade for him and also sign... We don't know if he would sign long term with them either. It's possible Dubois and his agent are keeping their cards to themselves.

Maybe over time this summer, we end up finding out who he prefers to play for if the Jets rather not give a 2 year term and prefer to trade him. If that plays out, I think it gets leaked on who he prefers to play for.
 
Having Wright cost controlled for 3, possibly more years (bridge contract) would allow for a 1-2-3 of SUzuki, Wright and PLD quite comfortably and give us one of the best center depth in the NHL.

I'm not for giving up the farm for PLD, but it could easily fit our roster especially once the deadwood is cut off and Price contract resolved. I'd rather spend all that money on centers than on goaltending!

It won't be a problem with a growing cap. I say get them locked up now for $8M and under cause in 2 or 3 years, the cost for top of the line-up players are going up. Good luck trying to buy UFA years when the cap is $90M plus.

People forget that that cap was expected to be $84 - $88M range depending on escrow (before Covid derailed revenue). Revenue was high this year even with Covid derailing parts of it.

If we were able to get Suzuki, Caufield, and Dubois (low trade value cause he wants to play for the Habs), having all 3 at $8M and under is not a problem, it's a solution. That's how the Bruins had their core on good contracts... it was about timing of when the contracts were signed.
 
Yes, we don't know but my gut tells me he would want to play for the Habs. I'm guessing.

The Rangers comment was about their leverage they had on the Trouba trade. If the Rangers try to trade for him and also sign... We don't know if he would sign long term with them either. It's possible Dubois and his agent are keeping their cards to themselves.

Maybe over time this summer, we end up finding out who he prefers to play for if the Jets rather not give a 2 year term and prefer to trade him. If that plays out, I think it gets leaked on who he prefers to play for.
He do want to play with MTL no doubt about that and they are probably #1 on his list but they are not the only team that he wants to play for and if he’s traded to NYR (I expect them to be agressif), I do expect him to sign a long term deal and not test the UFA
 
He do want to play with MTL no doubt about that and they are probably #1 on his list but they are not the only team that he wants to play for and if he’s traded to NYR (I expect them to be agressif), I do expect him to sign a long term deal and not test the UFA

There are very few teams in the NHL less equipped to give Dubois a big money long term contract than the Rangers.
 
He do want to play with MTL no doubt about that and they are probably #1 on his list but they are not the only team that he wants to play for and if he’s traded to NYR (I expect them to be agressif), I do expect him to sign a long term deal and not test the UFA

OK so lets say he has 5 teams on the list and the Rangers and Habs are two of them. He knows the Habs are interested so why sign long term with the Rangers if we are #1 on his list?

The minute he knows the Habs will sign him and has an indication of what we would offer, we have leverage and if he really wants to be a Habs, the Rangers will have to offer him way more than what we would. I say the Habs would offer 7 years at $8M so the Rangers might have to do $9M+ for him to sign now.

The Habs have a perfect situation here. We are unloading cap with more off the books next summer. And we have a growing core with a ton of prospects that filture through the system. PLD already wanted to play for us before so it stands that he would want to be part of this new rebuild even more.
 
There are very few teams in the NHL less equipped to give Dubois a big money long term contract than the Rangers.

I think that if both the Rangers and Habs show interest and he has both teams on his list, The Rangers will have to offer more AAV for him to bypass the Habs.

Hope this is true. We are long over due at having any leverage at signing players.
 
Really? I don't think I'd take Huberdeau over Dubois at the same AAV. Huberdeau is one dimensional and 5 years older. His next contract will age terribly.
I'm equally surprised with your answer.
Huberdeau is a star player in this league and Dubois, while more physical, scores at half the clip on good days.

Well now I realize Huberdeau is 29, I legit thought he was 26, so yeah that changes the outlook a bit.
 
OK so lets say he has 5 teams on the list and the Rangers and Habs are two of them. He knows the Habs are interested so why sign long term with the Rangers if we are #1 on his list?

The minute he knows the Habs will sign him and has an indication of what we would offer, we have leverage and if he really wants to be a Habs, the Rangers will have to offer him way more than what we would. I say the Habs would offer 7 years at $8M so the Rangers might have to do $9M+ for him to sign now.

The Habs have a perfect situation here. We are unloading cap with more off the books next summer. And we have a growing core with a ton of prospects that filture through the system. PLD already wanted to play for us before so it stands that he would want to be part of this new rebuild even more.
Because they believe in him enough to make a trade for him and he will have the possibility to sign his big contract this summer and not in 2 years.

And playing in a stack team in NY is probably as high if not higher in his list then playing in rebuild team in MTL.

I'm equally surprised with your answer.
Huberdeau is a star player in this league and Dubois, while more physical, scores at half the clip on good days.

Well now I realize Huberdeau is 29, I legit thought he was 26, so yeah that changes the outlook a bit.
The chance Huberdeau quit his live in Florida to come play here are extremely slim. He's really living his best life there.
 
I'm equally surprised with your answer.
Huberdeau is a star player in this league and Dubois, while more physical, scores at half the clip on good days.

Well now I realize Huberdeau is 29, I legit thought he was 26, so yeah that changes the outlook a bit.

IDK, I've always preferred the two way guy to the one dimensional point producer. But the age is the biggest reason. Huberdeau's next contract will be until he's 37 or 38. Its going to be one of those contracts on the worst in the NHL list.
 
PLD rumors will be all the rage this summer brace yourselves.

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Pierre-Luc Dubois would be great fit for the Habs for many reasons even If I would prefer to sign as UFA in 2 years.

- He would be the perfect fit to play with Suzuki-Caufield
- We really need size in our Top 6
- With our 2 top 6 C being right handed, he could take some face-off on the left side (a little bit like what Landeskog do with Colorado)
- Can take the top 6 C position if one of Suzuki/Wright is injured
- Same groupe of age of Suzuki so he will be 28 (in his prime) when we will to compete

And just imagine the reaction at the Bell Center if Gary Bettman announce the acquisition of Dubois at the draft.
 
Anybody see the latest news on PLD? He is going to force his way to UFA. 2 more RFA years I believe. He'll be a 26 year old UFA.

PLD wants to play in Montreal. Other teams can go ahead and trade for him... he'll force his way to UFA regardless. I'm guessing here but I think he thought the Habs would trade for him from the Blue Jackets and I believe we tried but we didn't have a Laine to offer. Then fast forward to the series in the playoffs (Jets/Habs) and he looked uninspired that round.

Yes, it's what my gut is telling me.
If he really wants Montreal he will have to drop his price and Anderson will have to be traded.
 
Why? The cap will bounce up to $100M+ ceiling within 2-3 years easily..
Caufield and Romanov will need contracts for a start and there are still so many question marks about remaining large contracts, and I don't see the need to spend money when the team isn't ready to compete and shouldn't try to until after the 2023 draft.
 
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Why do you want to trade Romanov for a 1st rounder?
why even consider trading romocop , he is really young and showing that he belongs in the top 4, playing 20 minutes per game, a mid to late 1st rounder probably is only as good at best, most likely not as good at all. besides it seems easier to get a decent forward than good defenseman, how many good defenseman are traded compared to forwards ? my point is that it is easier to replace a drouin than it is is to replace a sergachev.
 
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Really? I don't think I'd take Huberdeau over Dubois at the same AAV. Huberdeau is one dimensional and 5 years older. His next contract will age terribly.

I agree but I'd word it differently. He's 30 when he enters his next contract and it's a bad time to overpay UFA's. Who knows how he ages but expecting what we have seen in the last few seasons is reaching.

Huberdeau will want to get paid like Gallagher and it's likely 7 years. First few years might be good but from age 34-36, it's risky. Hard to project forward.

When Suzuki, Caufield, and Romanov are in their later 20's and the younger core behind them are starting their prime, Huberdeau is still with us in those age 34-36 years on a very high AAV.

Totally agree. Dubois fits better. We can sign him to early 30's not past 35+. Timing of contracts and age is everything.
 
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