this should be worth a first rounder, with a little extra, here is the rationale, patrick marleau cost the leafs a first rounder to get rid of for 1 year of cap relief, weber gives Arizona multiple years worth of cap hit to reach the league required minimum for not so much actual cash to be payed out if any due to insured contract.
Although yes the odds show that you probably end up with a third liner with those picks you should still be drafting for that top-6 guy. When you draft a top-6 guy and they fail to reach that potential they still have the chance to reinvent themselves and find a place in the bottom-6, when you draft a guy whose going to be a 3rd liner at best and they fail to reach their potential there's little chance that they can reinvent themselves and find a niche.
In terms of D without Petry, I think both Edmundson and Savard can be babysitters, but you still need someone to play on that top pairing with Romanov. They don't have to be a legit top-pairing guy, but they need to be good enough to actually play lots of minutes. So it should look something likeI actually don't think we need to replace Petry if he is traded. So no need for Letang.
Savard can be the vet who plays more minutes to insulate the RD kid(s) on the lineup. Resign Wideman too. And yes, that's a terrible idea if you want to win, but the Habs don't want to win too much next season.
Disagree, Marleau was healthy and still playing so his cap hit actually mattered as it prevented spending that money. With Weber since he is LTIR he doesn't actually matter as you can go out and sign a 7m replacement and still be cap compliant because he's on LTIR. There's no way we give up a 1st round pick to move Weber because failing to trade him has minimal downside (We can't accumulate cap space to add a big contract at the deadline). In truth Arizona (Or similar floor team) would probably be the ones to give up a pick/prospect to get Weber because that's real money for the owner but it's also not going to be a 1st.
You would have to trade Guhle in a package to get the #2 pick. Harris, Ylonen, and Poehling are not worth much.
yea i see it the same way. In the end , the question, a team that let many players go for cash, the question, how much 26 million of cash over 4 years is worth
that would slow us down a lot so no
Anderson for sure, Harris and Ylonen plus a first pick
sorry about the misunderstanding, i meant that the habs should receive a first rounder , not pay one to get rid of weber, arizona can afford to give up a late 1st because they pay little or no actual money but gain a contract so they can reach floor level of nhl minimum requirements, bryan little contract was actual money over 5.3 million almost for 2 seasons, that is why arizona only gave a 4th rounder in 2019, Marleau cost the leafs a 1st and a 7th, but they ended up with cap space and a 6th rounder, also Marleau contract involved actual cash to be paid out, weber is totally different there is a lot of value when a cost cutting team can get a lot of credit for multiple years counting against the salary cap, for a Ltir contract which is insurable and does not cost any actual cash, so saving arizona millions per year in payouts is the high value of webers contract.
I would make the trade conditional, certain players or picks up front, but other picks or prospects to be paid out or received after 2-3 years this way a team does not overpay for a yakupov who turns into a bust, and the other team can receive picks or players a couple of years down the road if the player turns out to be a top performer, flexability and certainty for both teams. like wise if the one team overpaid that team can recoup picks or prospects if they overpaid.
conditions can include team performance as well , similar to edmonton and chicago deal regarding duncan keith, if edmonton reaches the finals and keith plays a certain amount, than chicago gets a certain pick as a bonus.
Not me, if I trade my top 3 pick, I want a TOP player in return and I would be the one adding. I would want quality not quantity
I mean we gave up over 300 this year, so yeah if we don't make a splash via trade/FA we could easily do it again.
Of course and that's probably what the answer NJ expect but in there perspective if Caufield is not in the deal, they will look elsewhere or they will draft with #2. We don't any other piece interesting for them.
Let's not forget the need for top talent, we have enough late picks and top 9 players and I'm all for trading up with our 2nd and/or CGY pick, rather than trade down.
