HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #89: 2024-2025 season part II

[26Mats]

That's why I was being sarcastic.

Turns out, KK ain't going anywhere. So Canes win this trade.

yeah, I missed the sarcasm!

 

[Miller Time]

Why did Chicago pay so much for a third round pick?

And damn, Taylor Hall's career is such a failure.

Davidson is not a good GM...

Hopefully Chicago figures that out sooner than later so Bedard doesn't see his career get off to the kind of start Hall/RNH endured

 

[Miller Time]

Getting rid of Hall doesn't hurt Chicago at all. Hall is awful, man.

Basically, Chicago was willing to take on 50% of Rantanen's cap hit to get rid of him.

Yeah, but it's tough to imagine they couldn't have got a 3rd for Hall @3m... Mantha grabbed a 2nd + 4th just last year at just under 3M.

Calgary, in particular, seems like they'd have been all over that

 

[Habs]

Getting rid of Hall doesn't hurt Chicago at all. Hall is awful, man.

Basically, Chicago was willing to take on 50% of Rantanen's cap hit to get rid of him.

Doesn’t make your superstar franchise player any happier. Hall sucks but man they need some skill at some point. Maybe dangle their first rounder for Elias Petterson?

 

[Gravity]

I don't understand the Habs interest I'm Rantanen. We already have 4 top 6 wingers. Where's he going to fit. A C would make more sense imo.

 

[hvac412]

Carolina could go from Hero to Zero real quick if Rant tells them to take a hike in the future.

Laine,Dach,Rantanen , we do like our Fins

 

[Noble]

Don't get that deal from Chicago's perspective. Just a very strange deal for them.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

The kid playing at the community rink is better than Dach on the dot.

I was in favor of Necas when the reports were saying he wanted out in the off-season. Unfortunately, Habs don't have a Rantanen to match that kind of offer.

On the good side , he has not signed an extension

He has not been playing centre a lot. He wants to play centre but he isn't good enough defensively for the position.

So Dach but better offensively lol

 

[26Mats]

wish we landed Necas f*** we suck at center

I wonder how Granlund would do. He's 32. He's 5'10.

But he wouldn't be that expensive, and he's almost point per game. I think he'd be better than Newhook with Dach and Laine. And, I think Newhook would be dynamite with Armia and Evans. Newhook had chemistry with Armia last year.

 

[Laboeuf]

Don't get that deal from Chicago's perspective. Just a very strange deal for them.

They are tanking to take Matthew Schaefer.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

Don't get that deal from Chicago's perspective. Just a very strange deal for them.

Addition by subtraction.

They got rid of Hall and his 6 million dollar salary completely, and got their draft pick back for the cost of 50 percent of Rantanen’s salary.

You dump 6 million (and a well known cancerous player in all honesty) to take on 2.3 and get your 3rd round pick back, it isn’t the worst move. Plus it weakens their team, which gives them a better shot at drafting Schaefer or Hagens. And we’ve seen in the past that the Blackhawks will give guys away for peanuts,if it allows them a better shot at first overall.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

I wonder how Granlund would do. He's 32. He's 5'10.

But he wouldn't be that expensive, and he's almost point per game. I think he'd be better than Newhook with Dach and Laine. And, I think Newhook would be dynamite with Armia and Evans. Newhook had chemistry with Armia last year.

I’ve been saying that Granlund checks all the boxes for what the Habs need for a “playoff rental” for awhile now, and have made several proposals to acquire him at the deadline. He’s a veteran soon to be UFA, left handed center, good motor, great vision, and would be an excellent set up man for Laine.

I’d love a playoff lineup of:

Caufield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky
Laine - Granlund - Heineman
Newhook - Dach - Anderson
Gallagher - Evans - Armia

Or some combination thereof…

 

[sampollock]

I don't understand the Habs interest I'm Rantanen. We already have 4 top 6 wingers. Where's he going to fit. A C would make more sense imo.

Need a center

 

[Habs7631]

Might already have been posted here, if yes sorry and delete post. But this made me lol

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

I wonder how Granlund would do. He's 32. He's 5'10.

But he wouldn't be that expensive, and he's almost point per game. I think he'd be better than Newhook with Dach and Laine. And, I think Newhook would be dynamite with Armia and Evans. Newhook had chemistry with Armia last year.

Granlund would be great on a third line. Just think the Timing is a bit off. Id rather keep Newhook for now but Granlund is a good player overall.

 

[Thomas Sowell]

Let's see if the Canes actually pay him or he leaves like Guentzel did last year. Engels said if Rantanen makes it to UFA, the Habs will back up the brinks truck for him.

Management would have to either view demidov as a centre or be looking to trade a winger for one, or trade a winger for RHD and then trade reinbacher for one. Or maybe just plan on letting Laine walk but I can't see it with how he's been scoring.

Or maybe dach is a true number 2 and we're fine with slaf on the third line lol.

Give each line 20 minutes. Dress nothing but goons for 800k on the fourth

 

[HuGort]

Rumour is Rantanen wants $14 million+ and the insiders were saying that if they believed the Avs couldn't sign him then they would trade him before the deadline

I'd love to acquire Rantanen. Big, smart, 50 goals, 26 in prime years. Plays well under pressure in playoffs. Durable, doesn't miss time, be ideal fit here. I'd pay him 14 million. Cap is going up, averaged over next 7 years it be a good contract

 

[ReHabs]

I'd love to acquire Rantanen. Big, smart, 50 goals, 26 in prime years. Plays well under pressure in playoffs. Durable, doesn't miss time, be ideal fit here. I'd pay him 14 million. Cap is going up, averaged over next 7 years it be a good contract

14m! We don't need Mikko Rantanen, Slafkovsky is our Rantanen, remember? Any day now.

 

[RationalExpectations]

I'd love to acquire Rantanen. Big, smart, 50 goals, 26 in prime years. Plays well under pressure in playoffs. Durable, doesn't miss time, be ideal fit here. I'd pay him 14 million. Cap is going up, averaged over next 7 years it be a good contract

He is 28 not 26, will be 29 when next contract Starts. IF he asks for 13 or 14m, you just can t do it.

with CC Suzuki Slaf all around 8, Laine at 9, you re already paying 33m for 4 players. Add to that Anderson Gallagher that you can t get rid of, that s another 12m. Add Rantanen to this it means you have 30m to spend on 5 forwards, 6 Dmen, 2 goalies, +2 Extras at league Minimum. Even Assuming your other forwards have an AAV of 2m on average, that your goalies cost 5m combined with a small raise for Dobes, that s 17m including the Extras, so 13m for your Dcore while Guhle + Carrier is already 10m…
You re also screwing your cap structure in the future, that s a major risk but I understand you d take it for a Star Player.

If you tell me Laine is out Next year already and Gallagher can be moved that s another story of course.

 

[Egresch]

I'd love to acquire Rantanen. Big, smart, 50 goals, 26 in prime years. Plays well under pressure in playoffs. Durable, doesn't miss time, be ideal fit here. I'd pay him 14 million. Cap is going up, averaged over next 7 years it be a good contract

Why would you ruin your salary structure for someone you dont need? In couple years we might have the best top6 wingers in the league. We primarly need top4 RHD and 2C, the rest needs just patience.
Btw, Rantanen can easily drop out of 100 pts player to PPG player without McK and Makar.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

How many teams can and should give Rantanen an 8-year, 14 million a year contract?

With the cap going up to $97m a lot of teams, including Utah, Winnipeg, Columbus, Calgary, Anaheim, Nashville, Buffalo, Boston, NYI, Minnesota, maybe NYR, like more than half the teams in the league will be after him.

Oh, and of course, Carolina.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Hasn't he been playing wing most of his career?

Yes, with KK as his center majority of the time. Necas wants to play center but he's not good enough defensively for Rod and he sucks on face-offs.

His huge offensive streak at the beginning of this season was at center and then he majorly slowed down, Carolina was slumping so he was moved back to wing.

 

[morhilane]

I understand from both perspectives.

Aho is great, but he can't lead them alone. Rantanen moves to center for them permanently. Staal becomes 3rd line center. KK 4th.

Carolina is a middling good team. They have solid regular seasons then lose in 2nd round. Repeat year after year. They're trying to break that cycle.

Colorado is going with Mackinnon & Makar as it superstar leaders. Necas will play 2nd line center. Colton 3rd. Drury steps in as a 4th liner. Not sure what they do with Mittlestadt.

It opens up cap space for them, too as they do need to add depth to their forward units. They're top heavy - at least they were.

So Carolina traded for winger Rantanen to have a 2nd line center.
And Colorado traded for winger Necas to have a 2nd line center.
Chicago...no idea what Chicago is trying to accomplish, they dumped Taylor Hall I guess...



This trade feels like 3 GMs decided they wanted to do a trade, but couldn't bother thinking too much about it.

 

[StCaufield]

14m! We don't need Mikko Rantanen, Slafkovsky is our Rantanen, remember? Any day now.

I’d take a borderline generational player for that price. We could always stick with our moderately above average 5-8 million dollar players I guess and keep losing

 

[Rapala]

Laine,Dach,Rantanen , we do like our Fins

Kirby Dachanen