HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #89: 2024-2025 season part II

[WinterLion]

I really hope we trade Savard, Evans and Armia.

I love the way the team is playing but I just don't think not trading those guys will age well..

 

[ahmedou]

SEND! MIKE! MATHESON! TO! THE! SUN!

 

[Habs7631]

I really hope we trade Savard, Evans and Armia.

I love the way the team is playing but I just don't think not trading those guys will age well..

Now? Team is still in the mix. Doubt they’re selling anyone for now.

 

[WinterLion]

If they do trade Matheson, that could be a pretty major deal. It might be hard to do during the season...

Now? Team is still in the mix. Doubt they’re selling anyone for now.

OK give it a few weeks or a month, but there are so many teams "in the mix" I just don't think this is our year.

but maybe I'm still scared from not trading Souray...

 

[ahmedou]

 

[Miller Time]

I really hope we trade Savard, Evans and Armia.

I love the way the team is playing but I just don't think not trading those guys will age well..

It's a tough call...

We are, healthy, a borderline playoff team. And the young core has shown great resolve and buy-in.

If we are still in the WC hunt by the deadline, KH will have to balance "rewarding" the young core by either keeping the roster quality in place or potentially adding to it vs sending the distinct message that "this year doesn't matter" & selling current assets for futures... That risks seriously deflating the group and undermining the buy-in.

Hopefully, they get Evans & Armia extended on reasonable deals, and find a hockey trade solution for Dvorak/Savard (getting a mix of futures and right now assets in return).

 

[DAChampion]

Ok but what are we getting????

Has the Sun not given you enough?

 

[Habs7631]

Has the Sun not given you enough?

I live in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. Given the weather least few weeks, I’m not sure the Sun still exists.

 

[HabsCode]

Mathe-sun

 

[ReHabs]

I really hope we trade Savard, Evans and Armia.

I love the way the team is playing but I just don't think not trading those guys will age well..

The Habs made their bed with the truly god awful start to the season. You can’t show up to play after 25% of the season has been played.

Selling those three (and others) will help take the sting off missing the playoffs.

On the other hand you never know what crisis will hit other teams were up against — CBJ just lost Monahan for up to two months.

 

[HuGort]

14m! We don't need Mikko Rantanen, Slafkovsky is our Rantanen, remember? Any day now.

Lol. Slaf can't score outside of 5 feet from net

 

[WatchfulElm]

Yep there is a top 7-8, then a drop. McQueen's health issue makes him a risky prospect and GMs are risk averse. so thats a top 7 at that point. Within that top 7, you have of course Schaefer at the top who projects as a superstar, he is in a tier of his own since there are question marks regarding both Hagens and Martone. Misa, Hagens Matone are the 2nd tier so the top 4 is pretty set at this point, unless Frondell or Eklund have a push in the 2nd half and make their way in that 2nd tier. I like Desnoyers alot and wish the Habs draft him, but his upside is tad more limited than the other top guys, kid projects as a solid 2C, very solid in all areas of the game.

After that top 7-8, there is a signifiant drop as far as the fowards are concerned, you are looking at quality middle 6 or top 6 talents with more question marks. The Ds are fine, but nothing that exciting either, Mrtka could be the most attractive of the bunch since he flashes some upside some nights, but there is no guerantee either since he is pretty raw at that point. Hensler has been a huge disappointment and Im not too familiar with the others, but I dont feel like Im missing much.

Then after the top 15-20, you are looking at 2nd/3rd rounders in a normal year, the depth is that bad, the USNDTP is pretty weak this year, so is the Euro pool. Overall, thats not a good year to get a late 1st at the deadline, better ask for a 2026 1st.

It seems like a good strategy for Hughes this year would be to trade a few 25' picks in return for 26' and 27' picks, to GMs who are eager to overpay for a player they really want at the draft table. The prospect pipeline is already full and we cannot sign them all, so it wouldn't be a bad thing to draft less players this year.

But having so many picks is still an asset as a rebuilding team, and extending the time frame during which we accumulate a lot of draft picks provides a good foundation for long term success. Eventually, we might not be able to pay for all of our young stars, so having cheaper young blood still coming from the draft by the end of the decade would be a great idea.

 

[HuGort]

4m for Olivier? No way in hell.

Olivier like Evans. Having career year at optimum time

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Lol. Slaf can't score outside of 5 feet from net

You just described Gallagher

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

They have to sell.

They gotta be on the phone for

NewHook Evans Anderson Armia Matheson Savard Dvorak.

Let's be honest what do we lose if we remove all those guys?

2 dman that can't play defensively and one of them is washed

Good pk players. Like seriously? None of those players would hurt losing. The teams would win or play the same without those guys.

I would get alot of assets and use picks to overpay for a player that we actually need. I think we are at that point to make that kind of move.

 

[Skip Bayless]

What?

 

[themilosh]

I would go after Yanni Gourde.

A 5'9" C?? Get outta here bergy, you tried that with Desharnais. Doesn't work.

 

[Miller Time]

You just described Gallagher

Gallagher who first hit 50pts in a season at 25. Slaf did it at 19.

What do you guess Slaf will be hitting at 25?

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Gallagher who first hit 50pts in a season at 25. Slaf did it at 19.

What do you guess Slaf will be hitting at 25?

goals from 5 feet from the net

 

[Beendair Donedat]

I mean… why would you call your helmet brand that… thats just inappropriate

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I see you’re planting the seeds for a Crosby arrival. Best to let these rumours gestate, as it’s difficult to say when or if they’ll ever come to term or be delivered. The Climax will be over shortly.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

Just fooling around here.

But what about Laine and the Canes wants to team up to play with Aho and Rantanen.
This would be a crazy first line.

Laine - Aho = Rantanen (Finland kick ass line)

MTL : Laine (50% retained) + Armia + Kapanen (All finland)
for
Canes : Seth Jarvis

Please, person who definitely isn’t Slafy, just stop posting these ridiculous proposals. Especially on the main boards.

Do you honestly think the GM of the Canes wakes up tomorrow and says, “I know what will win us the cup… all the Fins that Montreal has, and all I’ll have to give up is our 22 year old almost PPG center, long term signed, terrific all around player that plays a period a night and is the coaches favorite….”

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

I would rather trade one of our first picks for someone like Beniers or Mercer, if available.

Let say that Seattle is ready to move on from him, would you do that trade as a Habs fan ? He's signed for 7x7.1.

 

[Fuonki]

I would rather trade one of our first picks for someone like Beniers or Mercer, if available.

Let say that Seattle is ready to move on from him, would you do that trade as a Habs fan ? He's signed for 7x7.1.

Seattle has no interest in trading Beniers and even if they did that contract looks awful for a player who we already have a much better version of in Suzuki.

 

[WinterLion]

It's a tough call...

We are, healthy, a borderline playoff team. And the young core has shown great resolve and buy-in.

If we are still in the WC hunt by the deadline, KH will have to balance "rewarding" the young core by either keeping the roster quality in place or potentially adding to it vs sending the distinct message that "this year doesn't matter" & selling current assets for futures... That risks seriously deflating the group and undermining the buy-in.

Hopefully, they get Evans & Armia extended on reasonable deals, and find a hockey trade solution for Dvorak/Savard (getting a mix of futures and right now assets in return).

Yes it would be hard to do especially if they continue to climb upwards.

I'm ok with signing Armia if he wants to stay here and accepts a 1-2 year deal at less than he is making now (which I doubt, but maybe)

I'm convinced Evans will want the best contract possible. This is his one chance. He is very replaceable. If we sign him to that deal we are taking away space and cash.... I want us to be a contender in 3 years. Evans is not a 3C on a contender. Pass unless he signs for 3 (maybe4) years.

Personally I think the Habs may be a slightly worse team next year and sellers again for the last time in many years.

Of course I am also really hoping they win the next 10 games and make a historic run with Dobes carrying the cup at the parade!

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Yes it would be hard to do especially if they continue to climb upwards.

I'm ok with signing Armia if he wants to stay here and accepts a 1-2 year deal at less than he is making now (which I doubt, but maybe)

I'm convinced Evans will want the best contract possible. This is his one chance. He is very replaceable. If we sign him to that deal we are taking away space and cash.... I want us to be a contender in 3 years. Evans is not a 3C on a contender. Pass unless he signs for 3 (maybe4) years.

Personally I think the Habs may be a slightly worse team next year and sellers again for the last time in many years.

Of course I am also really hoping they win the next 10 games and make a historic run with Dobes carrying the cup at the parade!

If they keep Dvorak, Gallagher, Anderson, Armia and Evans on the team they could be worse even with Demidov. At the very least Dvorak should be gone and Gallagher needs to be bought out. Evans can go if he doesn't come cheap. Add Beck, Davidson and Demidov, Reinbacher if he is ready, and there is no chance they are worse.