HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024 Off-Season Thread

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We need help on the blueline and bottom lines. I think we can wait for Tuch, Beck and a couple others to progress, draft high next year and wait for Demidov. Our D is still up in the air though
 

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We need help on the blueline and bottom lines. I think we can wait for Tuch, Beck and a couple others to progress, draft high next year and wait for Demidov. Our D is still up in the air though
Well that's the idea behind targeting a RD and try extending him for 8 years going into his retirement.

Dach is not going to stick here, and Barron is still fringe. Maybe I'm giving too much for Andersson, but that surely gets a foot in the door for negotiating the transfer. Pospisil would do us wonders also.

Edit: Also Savard looks to be declining fast. That's a lot of pieces in need of rejuvenation.
 
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Well that's the idea behind targeting a RD and try extending him for 8 years going into his retirement.

Dach is not going to stick here, and Barron is still fringe. Maybe I'm giving too much for Andersson, but that surely gets a foot in the door for negotiating the transfer. Pospisil would do us wonders also.

Edit: Also Savard looks to be declining fast. That's a lot of pieces in need of rejuvenation.

Yup, many of us said fatso should have been moved last year, can't hang on to these depleting assets like this when rebuilding. Dach will turn around when Laine is back, not his fault he's playing with 2 total scrubs on most nights. Newhook is a 3rd liner, Armia 4th.

Lets wait on Dach, he has nobody to play with at all currently.
 

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Yup, many of us said fatso should have been moved last year, can't hang on to these depleting assets like this when rebuilding. Dach will turn around when Laine is back, not his fault he's playing with 2 total scrubs on most nights. Newhook is a 3rd liner, Armia 4th.

Lets wait on Dach, he has nobody to play with at all currently.
Dach's play depending largely on his wingers is an argument for exploring trade options with other teams. Maybe they have the wingers to get him going? It seems we don't. I'm not sure we'll ever have em. The guy isn't motivated into making his own space on the ice. He plays center like Lars Eller plays it, waiting for openings and hoping for the best.

Right now may not be the time to expedite a trade with him I agree, but soon we'll want to see Kapanen take the reigns and see if he can do better with the same wingers. For a good sample size.. Another 10 games? When does he get notified to find an apartment anyhow? :D
 

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Dach's play depending largely on his wingers is an argument for exploring trade options with other teams. Maybe they have the wingers to get him going? It seems we don't. I'm not sure we'll ever have em. The guy isn't motivated into making his own space on the ice. He plays center like Lars Eller plays it, waiting for openings and hoping for the best.

Right now may not be the time to expedite a trade with him I agree, but soon we'll want to see Kapanen take the reigns and see if he can do better with the same wingers. For a good sample size.. Another 10 games? When does he get notified to find an apartment anyhow? :D

Fans always overrate our talent, us 'skeptics' have been getting chirped since sticking to our guns about how this team is going to blow until they make way more changes. We need a franchise C , we've never had one in decades. This is the year there are a couple of those available so do the right thing and do the mother of all tanks to draft top 3 this year, and you can have a proper rebuild.

Our prospects in Laval will for sure take care of our bottom lines, but man the second line is bad we won't win many games without a Laine. Then again maybe Laine isn't the solution, who knows.
 

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One of our young centers I imagine. We have three though
Evans would be an excellent pickup for a contender:
Great PKer
Good speed
Not Small
Won't cost you games
Cheap price
UFA

I don't expect the world for him, but the cost-benefit should reap a decent return. Maybe a 2nd, maybe a prospect?
 

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Evans would be an excellent pickup for a contender:
Great PKer
Good speed
Not Small
Won't cost you games
Cheap price
UFA

I don't expect the world for him, but the cost-benefit should reap a decent return. Maybe a 2nd, maybe a prospect?
If he prices himself out sure you can trade him for a 2nd, otherwise I'd rather keep him at a reasonable contract.
 

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Yup, many of us said fatso should have been moved last year, can't hang on to these depleting assets like this when rebuilding. Dach will turn around when Laine is back, not his fault he's playing with 2 total scrubs on most nights. Newhook is a 3rd liner, Armia 4th.

Lets wait on Dach, he has nobody to play with at all currently.
Reality is our team is too soft.. we've avoided this tag bc of the rebuild, but make no mistake, management/MSL know it.. we're currently a shell of a complete roster..
Our ONLY top 6 frwds are:
CC (2nd line winger)
Suzuki (1st line Centre)
Slaf (1st line winger)
Dach (2nd line Centre/wing)
Laine (2nd libe winger) IR+

The only prospects we have that are top 6 NHLers:
Demidov (1st line wing)
Hage (2nd line Centre/wing) ?

The remaining depth in our system should be adequate to fill out the bottom 6 from within (which is a good thing)... but the system needs to start producing heavy hitting contributors to start making life miserable for our opponents... we have no 4th line to speak of..
 
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Dach missed an entire year...you guys are crazy for wanting to trade him now with his absolute lowest value ever.
At least give him this season to see if he can find his game, he was on verge of breaking out before injury.
Meh Chicago fans once said when they traded him that he was made of glass and never was made to be a center and to be honest , they werent wrong about the glass part and being a center. Dude sucks as a center.
 

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Dach missed an entire year...you guys are crazy for wanting to trade him now with his absolute lowest value ever.
At least give him this season to see if he can find his game, he was on verge of breaking out before injury.
The way Jeff Gorton talked about Dach on TSN last week, they seem still very high on him.
They see him as the future 2C.
And it's not Kent Hugues' style to sell low.
 
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Habs Halifax

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Dach missed an entire year...you guys are crazy for wanting to trade him now with his absolute lowest value ever.
At least give him this season to see if he can find his game, he was on verge of breaking out before injury.

Not desperate at trading him and if we do, it won't be for low value. What we might need is a 1/1 hockey trade but yeah, I don't see it happening soon. Dach needs to play a full season and then we go from there. Logical plan but if he struggles at 2C, we do need a back-up plan.

The way Jeff Gorton talked about Dach on TSN last week, they seem still very high on him.
They see him as the future 2C.
And it's not Kent Hugues' style to sell low.

Some fans see his name out there and thing it's desperation to trade Dach. Not the case... just considering multiple different outcomes and that is the smart thing. No Habs fans want to trade him for low value.

What might happen is another Galchenyuk/Domi type flip. Not happening in the short span. Need a lot more games to be played.
 
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