HF Habs: Trade Proposal Thread #88: 2024 Off-Season Thread

[Sterling Archer]

I wouldn't trade Suzuki for Perfetti (benched him in the playoffs) AND Ehlers (asked for a trade) combined, Much less adding to that deal.

Chevy is a known hard negotiator and asks for the moon. Doubt this has any veracity to it considering the source, other then the Habs possibly asking about those players.

 

[Deus ex machina]

There is no hurry to make the playoff this year, we just want to see progression. And I don’t think it’s a good idea to give many asset for Andersson without knowing his contract intentions

I don't see why Andersson wouldn't want to extend with the Habs, but he can always be traded back later if it doesn't work out.
Of course it's a risk and it always depends on the price to pay, but i trust KH with that.

I'm not going to give one person the benefit of the doubt when they've been wrong in the past and not the other just because they were more vague (didn't say what the cost would be) and their proposal was more palatable to me. That's literally wishful thinking.

Of course Eklund's rumour is ridiculous (and worse than the Andersson rumour). But Montreal trying to trade for a likely costly D-man with two years of control in September is pretty farfetched too.

To be fair, Rasmus Andersson is not a rumour, it's just speculation. There's no specific names mentionned in D'Amico's article.
He just writes that the Habs are still on the lookout for upgrades, mainly at RD.

But i can see why you don't want to believe it if it doesn't align with your views.

That's the point though. For the biggest hole to be able to be filled by a guy like Andersson, we need a whole lot more certainty than potential, room to grow and relying on improvements. By that same measure Montreal can hope that their potential at RD can bridge the gap this season.

The goal this season is to be more competitive, ideally past the deadline. Its not to make the playoffs. Montreal needs to

As for biggest hole, its either #1 D, which Andersson does not address, or if we're relying on potential, then #2 center. Dach missed almost all of last season and wasn't a full time center before that. If he doesn't work out then Montreal does not have potential fix for a #2 C. Montreal's got a number of young D that have the potential to have an impact.

Publicly, HuGo are saying that they just want to be in the mix and it's ok if they don't make the playoffs.
They probably don't want to add unnecessary pressure on the team, but privately, i think they want to win ASAP.

Of course it won't be the end of the world if they don't but i think there's no reason in waiting to try to be as good as possible.
The sooner they start to make the playoffs, the better.

I have more faith in Dach than you, so i don't see the 2C position as a big hole.

Just because Andersson is not a clear 1D, doesn't mean he can't still help.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I wouldn't trade Suzuki for Perfetti (benched him in the playoffs) AND Ehlers (asked for a trade) combined, Much less adding to that deal.

Chevy is a known hard negotiator and asks for the moon. Doubt this has any veracity to it considering the source, other then the Habs possibly asking about those players.

Especially now that we have him on a very reasonable long term deal. That would the dumbest thing ever.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

I would not mind trading for Zegras, but not if we have to give up a core piece for him, I'm not interested in sideways moves.

Yes Zegras would be a good add. Habs need another centre for the immediate term. As you say he would cost a potential core piece, likely a d, that they can't afford to move yet.

 

[EveryDay]

It's like asking for Josh Morrisey and offering Savard + Mailloux + a pick

 

[sampollock]

I wouldn't trade Suzuki for Perfetti (benched him in the playoffs) AND Ehlers (asked for a trade) combined, Much less adding to that deal.

Chevy is a known hard negotiator and asks for the moon. Doubt this has any veracity to it considering the source, other then the Habs possibly asking about those players.

no way KH moves his capt. no way

 

[BLONG7]

Just to make you laugh today, here is Eck's rumoured trade that he just posted, its a e4 btw:

Perfetti, Nikolaj Ehlers and a pick to the Canadiens for Nick Suzuki

Yes......laugh alright....
Eck as in The Eklund guy?? Rumor monger supreme guy??

 

[26Mats]

I would not mind trading for Zegras, but not if we have to give up a core piece for him, I'm not interested in sideways moves.

Crazy that we got Laine attached with what looks like will be an early 2nd. That early 2nd is a nice asset for Hughes to go to work with.

We'll see what Laine can do. We definitely have to be patient, and find the right players and playing style that suite his game. If we try to make him something he's not, things won't go well.

 

[sampollock]

Yes......laugh alright....
Eck as in The Eklund guy?? Rumor monger supreme guy??

CLOWN more like it

He says Nick S goes to the peg? he is just a click bait guy

I mean at least make a better guess that is somewhat believable.

 

[waffledave]

Why would the Habs trade Suzuki for Perfetti and Ehlers? Makes no sense at all. Who is supposed to play center?

 

[Beendair Donedat]

I don’t think the Habs are making any major moves, maybe jettisoning a fourth liner, or clearing a spot for Beck, but certainly nothing that’s going to move and shake the foundation.

As far as a number one right handed defenseman? I don’t think Andersson is that guy, and I don’t want to pay what the Flames will want, to give him up. I suspect Barron’s address will have changed in or before the offseason next year and that the Habs will draft a right hand shot defender with the first of their first round picks, and I’m seriously on the Charlie Trethewey bandwagon.

Big right hand shot defender, good offense, thinks the game extremely well, physical, great vision. Won’t run the top powerplay with Hutson here, but could easily run the second unit. Can play in any and all situations. He’s basically a much more offensively capable but very close to as good defensively version of Reinbacher.

I think adding Trethewey would be the finishing touch and give us our top pairing right hand shot defenseman. I’d see the future pairings as:

Guhle - Trethewey
Hutson - Reinbacher
Xhekaj - Mailloux

That’s an excellent mix of talent, speed, power and hockey talent, mixed in with some general nastiness. A daunting group to play against come playoff time.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

For Ehlers as a rental. Florida's first and one of Engstrom or KapKapanen.

Ew.

Ehlers is another smaller, often injured players who disappears in the playoffs, so why ?

 

[LaP]

For Ehlers as a rental. Florida's first and one of Engstrom or Kapanen?

Why do we do that?

We're not contending. Why waste assets for nothing.

 

[vokiel]

For Ehlers as a rental. Florida's first and one of Engstrom or Kapanen?

How about no Ehlers?

 

[BaseballCoach]

I’d see the future pairings as:

Guhle - Trethewey
Hutson - Reinbacher
Xhekaj - Mailloux

That’s an excellent mix of talent, speed, power and hockey talent, mixed in with some general nastiness. A daunting group to play against come playoff time.

Excellent mix, imagine if we had Matheson instead of Xhekaj.

 

[Mudz]

Ew.

Ehlers is another smaller, often injured players who disappears in the playoffs, so why ?

He's best friend with Laine. That's the only reason.

Why do we do that?

We're not contending. Why waste assets for nothing.

The scenario in witch MTL is considering the acquisition of Ehlers is one where MTL is solidly in the playoffs picture. I thought it was obvious.

 

[The Great Weal]

Rasmus Andersson would be great

I think it would cost a lot to get him, he'll get an expensive contract at 30 years old, and it would mean Mailloux is likely gone. I like the player, but there's no rush to add someone like him.

 

[Habs7631]

I don’t think this was posted yet? Sorry for double post if yes. Just gonna copy/paste from the Ducks board.

Pagnotta talking many players but what he said about Zegras was most interesting. Said “it’s no secret he wouldn’t mind a change of scenery”. Ends it by saying if a deal doesn’t happen at the deadline, look for it in the summer, “unless he has a change of heart about wanting to stay in Anaheim long term”

https://x.com/i/web/status/1837295684728553819

 

[HuGort]

Yeah, you're not wrong about that.
I remember when he wrote that the Habs were gonna take Wright, according to a ''league executive''.
He'd just wrote a couple of days earlier that the Habs were very secretive about who they were gonna pick (and rightly so), so someone challenged him about the contradiction.

He didn't like it at all...lol. His colleague (or boss?) at the time, Jimmy Murphy, didn't like it either and came to his defence. They said they were very confident about their source. I'm guessing that ''info'' came from Murphy.

But still, he was just a rookie at the time, so i'll give him the benefit of the doubt on this latest article.
Maybe because i think it makes sense and it's something other people around the NHL would know if they had discussions with the Habs about it.

Gorton said this week that he's greedy and always looking to make the team better ASAP. So there's that also.

Marco seems one of the best ones. Nobody perfect though.

 

[HuGort]

I don’t think this was posted yet? Sorry for double post if yes. Just gonna copy/paste from the Ducks board.

Pagnotta talking many players but what he said about Zegras was most interesting. Said “it’s no secret he wouldn’t mind a change of scenery”. Ends it by saying if a deal doesn’t happen at the deadline, look for it in the summer, “unless he has a change of heart about wanting to stay in Anaheim long term”

https://x.com/i/web/status/1837295684728553819

We were close to Zegras at Draft. Hughes could make another run next draft. He's Caufield best friend. Habs have multiple picks. With 20 million coming off cap next summer. Laine was plan C. Doubt he's here more than 2 years. Unless he stands on his head. Big money to lock up long term with his history.

 

[yianik]

Marco doesn't have any sources.

But Rasmus Andersson should be someone we keep checking in on.

Marco ? I can't state what he wrote about, but I've read a few proposals from him that I remember were just horrible and thought man this guy has no clue. Don't think I have ever liked anything he had written.

 

[yianik]

Suzuki, Caulfield and Slaf on the 1st line. Dach , Newhook and Laine on the 2nd, with Demidov incoming next year. Why in the world would we be trying to upgrade the top 6 ?

On D, our darts are finally reaching the NHL. What big move would we make here?

I mean a good GM is always looking, but a big trade usually means big assets going the other way and why would we do that before we find out what we are actually missing from our group ? I mean if Dach or the top prospects on D don't pan out then we need what expendable assets we have to fill those major gaps.

 

[Treb]

Yes Zegras would be a good add. Habs need another centre for the immediate term. As you say he would cost a potential core piece, likely a d, that they can't afford to move yet.

Habs do not need another centre for the immediate term. We already have our 4.

 

[Whalers Fan]

Suzuki, Caulfield and Slaf on the 1st line. Dach , Newhook and Laine on the 2nd, with Demidov incoming next year. Why in the world would we be trying to upgrade the top 6 ?

That 2nd line has question marks. Can Dach stay healthy? Can Laine return to top form, or will he be gone in two years? Ideally, Newhook would be on the 3rd line - - and probably will be once Demidov arrives.

 

[salbutera]

Zegras - Dach - Laine makes too much sense for this team coached but MSL…

All about acquisition cost