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For a supposedly “flat and low compete” guy scoring just under PPG in the playoffs is pretty good imo!Give Suzuki Marners winger's FFS. Then we won't have to guess.
For a supposedly “flat and low compete” guy scoring just under PPG in the playoffs is pretty good imo!Give Suzuki Marners winger's FFS. Then we won't have to guess.
I expect Savard, Barron & Harris to not be on 25-26 season opening game roster, with Matheson gone by 26-27 opening game, the rest will sort itself out organicallyGuhle
Matheson
Savard
Xhekaj
Barron
Harris
Struble
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Reinbacher
Mailloux
Hutson
Engstrom
Bogdan
The period between the 2025 trade deadline and the 2025 draft is hopefully when HuGo cab make bank by trading some of the defensemen for either futures or in packages for a better forward.
That's going to take some creative thinking, but Hughes is good at that.
Marner is a Winger... The comparison is just a fallacy. Marner is the guy who's going to remain a loser for his entire career with the Leafs, regardless of the amount of points he racks up.Give Suzuki Marners winger's FFS. Then we won't have to guess.
For a supposedly “flat and low compete” guy scoring just under PPG in the playoffs is pretty good imo!
So was Stevie Y …until he wasn’tMarner is a Winger... The comparison is just a fallacy. Marner is the guy who's going to remain a loser for his entire career with the Leafs, regardless of the amount of points he racks up.
Stevie Y never played garbage hockey in the playoffs like Marner did as far as I can remember. I mean some guys have it to play in the most competitive setting there is, Marner doesn't have that. You want a better comparison: RNH.So was Stevie Y …until he wasn’t
I agree and besides we have his Russian copy-cat in Demibust.. so..Marner seems to disappear as the playoff series goes into the later games. Marner’s career stats in playoff games 5, 6, & 7 is: 21 games played, 1 goal and 9 total points.
As far as trading for him, I wouldn’t want Montreal to give up significant assets and have to give him the big contract extension as well.
That’s why Scotty told him he had one final opportunity to shape up, sacrifice pts, and focus on 200-ft playoff hockey, when he stepped in to force Devellano blocking deal to Sens for 1OA (Yashin) in 1992?Stevie Y never played garbage hockey in the playoffs like Marner did as far as I can remember. I mean some guys have it to play in the most competitive setting there is, Marner doesn't have that. You want a better comparison: RNH.
He always seems to leave Leafs fans wanting more but as far as numbers go he isn't bad but then again neither was Daniel Briere.For a supposedly “flat and low compete” guy scoring just under PPG in the playoffs is pretty good imo!
It's not really about the style he plays, it's he disappears or makes boneheaded plays in the worst possible moments. The compete level increasing seems to be exceptionally taxing on some players. That's what Tort was referring to at the end of the season when the Flyers missed the playoffs.That’s why Scotty told him he had one final opportunity to shape up, sacrifice pts, and focus on 200-ft playoff hockey, when he stepped in to force Devellano blocking deal to Sens for 1OA (Yashin) in 1992?
It’s also a product of poor roster construction, Kucherov’s playoff game took off once Kilorn was there to do the dirty workHe always seems to leave Leafs fans wanting more but as far as numbers go he isn't bad but then again neither was Daniel Briere.
Marner is a good hockey player much in the same way Nugent Hopkins is a good hockey player.
Both are smart play makers both kill penalties very well and both have a tendency to disappear at crucial moments.
Wear and tear or Injury?
I don't know but it's been a trend.
Finally!He always seems to leave Leafs fans wanting more but as far as numbers go he isn't bad but then again neither was Daniel Briere.
Marner is a good hockey player much in the same way Nugent Hopkins is a good hockey player.
Both are smart play makers both kill penalties very well and both have a tendency to disappear at crucial moments.
Wear and tear or Injury?
I don't know but it's been a trend.
Hutson has a far better chance to win the Calder Cup than the Calder trophy.I would bet that with a healthy team we might have both Roy and Hutson in the race to win the calder.
Something like that, but Hughes won't necessarily keep the best players, as the better ones might have more trade values.I expect Savard, Barron & Harris to not be on 25-26 season opening game roster, with Matheson gone by 26-27 opening game, the rest will sort itself out organically
Barron - as we know him - cannot play NHL level defence. He’s also soft as hell.Something like that, but Hughes won't necessarily keep the best players, as the better ones might have more trade values.
You can be a contender with Xhekaj-Barron as your third pair.
The Calder will go to Demidov! I said it a couple months ago and I maintain that he's coming over this year.Hutson has a far better chance to win the Calder Cup than the Calder trophy.
IDK why, but I pictured this, when I saw the Marner picture.I know it shouldn't matter, but Marner has irritating fashion sense. He looks ridiculous.
Also he's less good than his salary.
Maybe Struble for Marner at 50% retention.
Yes, the lightning won with a worse 3rd pair than this, The Preds were competitive with Weber on the third pair (Yannic).Something like that, but Hughes won't necessarily keep the best players, as the better ones might have more trade values.
You can be a contender with Xhekaj-Barron as your third pair.
Hard to get value for guys who didn’t get ice time for lack of opportunity though.Guhle
Matheson
Savard
Xhekaj
Barron
Harris
Struble
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Reinbacher
Mailloux
Hutson
Engstrom
Bogdan
The period between the 2025 trade deadline and the 2025 draft is hopefully when HuGo cab make bank by trading some of the defensemen for either futures or in packages for a better forward.
That's going to take some creative thinking, but Hughes is good at that.
Are you talking about Morgan Barron ?Barron - as we know him - cannot play NHL level defence. He’s also soft as hell.
Barron is 22, a lot of players particularly defensive players improve from age 22 onwards.Barron - as we know him - cannot play NHL level defence. He’s also soft as hell.
I think that dominating the AHL is something that GMs around the league can recognize given enough context.Hard to get value for guys who didn’t get ice time for lack of opportunity though.
There's no need to write him off, we'll see how the season plays out. I hope he does well because that can only mean good things for us.Barron is 22, a lot of players particularly defensive players improve from age 22 onwards.
I think they will be patient with Barron. Being a RD makes him more valuable and at 22, theres still room for growth. Guess Harris would be the 1st one traded. Or maybe Xhekaj.
The habs over the years, always get themselves in trouble, for not being patient with young Dmen.....just gonna leave this at that.Or just trade Barron after he has a great year